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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 08 2015 15:25 GMT
#3441
I'm focusing on these people at the moment:

3) WaveofShadow (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter)
6) Vivax (filter)
8) ritoky (filter)
9) geript (filter)
12) Trfel (filter)
13) LightningStrike (filter)
17) milo109 (filter)
20) Damdred (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter)


I believe a majority of scum (like 4/5) will be in this list.

I've liked Vivax posts on boxerfred (even though I think he's town) so he's pretty low priority.
Yes I do in fact think HtS is town, and I think rsoultin might be scum. I just have no read on geript at all.

I don't feel that either role should be playing the way EBH is playing so I'm having a tough time reaching any kind of conclusion on him... :s
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 08 2015 15:25 GMT
#3442
Inconclusive means it's a work in progress, not sure why I would be jumping to post incomplete trash. I'm not even calling you a legitimate scum read yet.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 15:41 GMT
#3443
On July 09 2015 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
see the thing is, I don't really think HtS is mafia.


Neither do i anymore

#comeatmeguys

i suppose i should ask why


Because she finally stopped dodging my answers and gave actual reasons and i didn't hate them, +miller thing
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 08 2015 15:41 GMT
#3444
Looking back at EBH there's actually some points I like in his opener. It seems hard for scum to go "I think vivax is bussing geript and that's why he's tunneling so hard and geript is just ignoring him", this seems like a pretty townie thought.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 08 2015 15:43 GMT
#3445
On July 09 2015 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm focusing on these people at the moment:

3) WaveofShadow (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter)
6) Vivax (filter)
8) ritoky (filter)
9) geript (filter)
12) Trfel (filter)
13) LightningStrike (filter)
17) milo109 (filter)
20) Damdred (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter)


I believe a majority of scum (like 4/5) will be in this list.

I've liked Vivax posts on boxerfred (even though I think he's town) so he's pretty low priority.
Yes I do in fact think HtS is town, and I think rsoultin might be scum. I just have no read on geript at all.

I don't feel that either role should be playing the way EBH is playing so I'm having a tough time reaching any kind of conclusion on him... :s

Is there any reason why you profiled these people?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 08 2015 15:44 GMT
#3446
On July 09 2015 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On July 08 2015 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
see the thing is, I don't really think HtS is mafia.


Neither do i anymore

#comeatmeguys

i suppose i should ask why


Because she finally stopped dodging my answers and gave actual reasons and i didn't hate them, +miller thing

since when is claiming miller townie?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 08 2015 15:44 GMT
#3447
That seems like total baloney considering the miller thing happened like wayyyy before hf push.
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 15:45 GMT
#3448
On July 09 2015 00:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On July 08 2015 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
see the thing is, I don't really think HtS is mafia.


Neither do i anymore

#comeatmeguys

i suppose i should ask why


Because she finally stopped dodging my answers and gave actual reasons and i didn't hate them, +miller thing

since when is claiming miller townie?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 15:47 GMT
#3449
Yes, the miller thing has always existed but i evaluated her play outside of it and i did not like it. The more she dodged my questions on purpose the more frustrated I got and evetually it made me just tunnel her. Now I've slept, had sex and calmed down a bit the miller thing comes back and i didn't mind when she actually did respond.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 08 2015 15:48 GMT
#3450
On July 09 2015 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm focusing on these people at the moment:

3) WaveofShadow (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter)
6) Vivax (filter)
8) ritoky (filter)
9) geript (filter)
12) Trfel (filter)
13) LightningStrike (filter)
17) milo109 (filter)
20) Damdred (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter)


I believe a majority of scum (like 4/5) will be in this list.

I've liked Vivax posts on boxerfred (even though I think he's town) so he's pretty low priority.
Yes I do in fact think HtS is town, and I think rsoultin might be scum. I just have no read on geript at all.

I don't feel that either role should be playing the way EBH is playing so I'm having a tough time reaching any kind of conclusion on him... :s

Is there any reason why you profiled these people?


Elimination of people I read as town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 15:49 GMT
#3451
She can yap on about my rsoultin read being scummy all she wants though, it's simply not the case. Just because she pointed out one scum read does not an rsoultin town make. Not to mention i repeatedly tried to get people to answer questions about rsoul which everyone dodged repeatedly.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 08 2015 15:51 GMT
#3452
On July 09 2015 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 00:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On July 08 2015 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
see the thing is, I don't really think HtS is mafia.


Neither do i anymore

#comeatmeguys

i suppose i should ask why


Because she finally stopped dodging my answers and gave actual reasons and i didn't hate them, +miller thing

since when is claiming miller townie?


Er yeah, when you put + miller, it means that you think its townie.
No gg, No skill.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 15:54 GMT
#3453
On July 09 2015 00:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
That seems like total baloney considering the miller thing happened like wayyyy before hf push.

Might be oats best post this game.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 08 2015 15:55 GMT
#3454
On July 09 2015 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
Yes, the miller thing has always existed but i evaluated her play outside of it and i did not like it. The more she dodged my questions on purpose the more frustrated I got and evetually it made me just tunnel her. Now I've slept, had sex and calmed down a bit the miller thing comes back and i didn't mind when she actually did respond.

so basically HTS can do anything she wants but as long as she actually answers your questions, even if its like 2 days later, it somehow absolves her of not answering your questions earlier?
No gg, No skill.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 08 2015 16:47 GMT
#3455
On July 09 2015 00:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Looking back at EBH there's actually some points I like in his opener. It seems hard for scum to go "I think vivax is bussing geript and that's why he's tunneling so hard and geript is just ignoring him", this seems like a pretty townie thought.

can we get any scumreads from you?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 08 2015 17:18 GMT
#3456
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite

but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not

reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas

the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads

subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place

that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead

the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads

but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms

as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom

most of this i've already said

now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness

was that polite enough?




also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated

i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that

beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him


I appreciate the change in tone here. I can work with you like this.

Now, I don't really feel like you're addressing the main point here.
The essence of all my posting is simply this: why did you feel the necessity to defend/answer for trfel? HF was not addressing you, so you shouldn't have felt any need to interject.

I can see these reasonable motives:

1 you are town, you and trfel are such close friends that you feel like you need to defend him since you think your read is correct and everyone else is wrong.(I don't see you defending other people being attacked)
2 you are mafia defending town trfel because you are certain of his alignment and you know he's an easy target.
If he flips you know you will look good for defending him.
3 you are mafia defending mafia trfel because he's your partner.

Right now I'm leaning toward options 2 and 3, because the composite of your play seems scummy to me.

That said, there's other people in the game, and I need to spend my time evaluating them as well.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 08 2015 17:20 GMT
#3457
Actually ruxxar, what someone said is earlier is correct. It makes no sense for scum rsoul to throw herself out there and defend a townie. She did it so obtrusively and badly. Like really really badly that shes not scum for it.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 08 2015 17:21 GMT
#3458
and I really dont think rsoul will do that if trfel was mafia either, hard defending mafia is a good way to get lynched. Trust me.

No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 08 2015 17:23 GMT
#3459
On July 09 2015 02:18 ruXxar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 08 2015 23:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay ruxxar. i've explained it all, but not concisely and not politely because i'm not polite

but i'll do it solely to have it in one place and to say this is the last time i am going to discuss my trfel toneread or my interactions/read on hf, whether you keep ignoring that and tunneling with the same points or not

reasons i'm tonereading truffle town: lightness with me (i catch him as mafia early, see student v where i opened with pressure on truffle for his weird read on ls, and greymist's game), joking that matches his dry humor, grumbling at me for saying i thought he was town (look at it this way: as scum he should be happy that he gets an rsoul townread and finally broke my streak...as town it makes a lot more sense to be irritated that i'm still getting a read off him off very few posts), and yes, not wanting to give an opinion on something he hasn't looked at is actually towny cause truffle holds himself to ridiculously high standards and spends an inordinate amount of time combing through posts before coming to a decision <- all of these things are very personal that i realize other people don't know about him and mean more to me than others, so i didn't go into it, just as i didn't go into it with my early toneread on damdy in himalayas

the first exchange with hf: you're misrepresenting/misreading it. when hf first said he didn't need my opinion i let it go. i was actually discussing things with bresh and truffle when hf said "see, this post means his question to you wasn't trying to determine your alignment"...to which i responded that i didn't think that was the purpose of the question anyway and made a joke about hf forgetting how stubborn i was...he then basically told me to shut up and go into a corner and color, so yeah, i got pissed at him. i actually broke it off BEFORE the mod ever intervened, which frankly was probably for the post hf made right before the mod post...because that was ad hominem to a tee, basically saying no one gives a shit what i say because of my tonereads

subsequently: i came back to the thread scumreading hf because i'd had time to cool down and where he said he was questioning truffle, he actually was saying, and yes i'm paraphrasing "you're scum cause you have mafiaitis. nothing you can say or do will change my mind. you may as well give up". plus the way he just threw shit at me when i wasn't doing anything. usually we only shitfight when he's scum, and i JUST came off a game where he and bugs did that to deliberately put me on tilt cause i'm fiery -_- i kept trying to get people to see what i was seeing and he kept on trying to say i was defending truffle and everyone else was taking that up, and it was supremely frustrating that people kept not understanding what i was trying to say...that hf never intended to get a read off truffle in the first place

that continued with ignoring the fact that truffle was quizzing ls between the time of his townread and scumread on ls and had said he was writing something on him, instead just going hey! look! nothing has happened between these reads! me saying he's not reading was his clue to go back and read. hts did it. she saw it. hf should have. he preferred to fight me instead

the only reason i left off hf was his point on truffle's case all coming from before he dropped the townread was actually good. i even tried to explain what my issue with him was more concisely, which works better when i'm not angry. it's still weird to me that he thinks telling someone they're scum and he won't ever change his mind is pressure, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment since yeah, even if he's scum not gonna lynch him d1 like ever >< was more productive to discuss reads

but here i come back to the thread and he's back to jumping on me for nitnoidisms

as for you, you're just parroting him like you two are butt buddies, and it feels a lot like being double-teamed...deja vu bugs and hf...plus i KNOW that you've seen i do this toneread thing and am willing to fight for it regardless if the so-called "evidence" when it comes to an actual lynch; see: GB, so why you find it so weird i'm doing it again this game i can't fathom

most of this i've already said

now i will ignore you unless you talk about something else or are actually willing to talk reads instead of whining about me being pissed at your misrepresentation and inattentiveness

was that polite enough?




also, yeah...i didn't get through the thread @.@ i'd just post a reads list, but it would only be for the sake of posting it cause it's outdated

i really don't like hf still, or ruxx (though this could be OMGUS i'm willing to admit), and damdy felt off to me, too, but i want to read the section of the day i missed that had people scumreading him before i come to a judgment on that

beyond that i think bresh/truffle/marv/geript are top townies for me...would add palmar to that but lol my track record with palmar >< someone else can read him


I appreciate the change in tone here. I can work with you like this.


me too, it's much nicer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 08 2015 17:23 GMT
#3460
Oh where oh where did those ritoky/milo scumreads go Holyflare....

And your desire to "lynch scott tomorrow" seems to have come from his 98% BM comment yet you liked his lists earlier.
Same quote where you drop him and try to push Ras which others have pointed out the issue with that.

On July 08 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
whatever trevor

probably should lynch scott tomorrow


(3 minutes after the lynch)

Do you still want to lynch either of Scott or Ras, or one over the other?
You don't mention the former at all since that last quote 3m after EoD. Even after Breshke brings him up!

Why does it look like you are trying to see what sticks?

(still reading through more filters....)
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