On July 09 2015 02:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually ruxxar, what someone said is earlier is correct. It makes no sense for scum rsoul to throw herself out there and defend a townie. She did it so obtrusively and badly. Like really really badly that shes not scum for it.
Remember sulfurous? He did the exact same play. Defended a townie as scum, and it looked like such a terrible scum play that I thought he was town the whole game. After that game I don't think that the "shitty town" excuse is valid enough for me to not scum read someone.
On July 09 2015 02:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually ruxxar, what someone said is earlier is correct. It makes no sense for scum rsoul to throw herself out there and defend a townie. She did it so obtrusively and badly. Like really really badly that shes not scum for it.
Remember sulfurous? He did the exact same play. Defended a townie as scum, and it looked like such a terrible scum play that I thought he was town the whole game. After that game I don't think that the "shitty town" excuse is valid enough for me to not scum read someone.
Well thats cause sulf was bad. Rsoul isnt bad.
And its a different kind of bad. Rsoul isnt shitty town for defending trfel.
Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar.
What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question:
On July 08 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote: Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim?
It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion.
It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped
The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1?
On July 07 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote: I don't like the Miller claim that HtS spewed out, like he doesn't give a fuck. Reads more like a backup (which is sadly NAI), claiming Miller makes sense as scum and as town. He's threwing out cases and opinions without going too hard for someone. He did the same in the Himalaya game after he got in via replacement, he was scum in there.
I just want to say that before people start sheeping him.
Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though.
Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all?
What do you think of Palmar so far?
I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today.
(see bolded in second quote)
So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI?
You have to look at the difference in context. If the first statement is given in relation to when the only 2 options were mz and bm then it makes sense.
Well I here I been reading it through and I kinda agree that Scott is suspicious because he seemed of like TMI'd about BM saying he will flip Wanderer 98% and that is a very high number and boom BM flipped Wanderer and his reasoning seemed weak from what i remember him saying why he thought BM would flip Wanderer. Also to lighten the mode a little here some good dance music:
On July 09 2015 03:19 LightningStrike wrote: Well I here I been reading it through and I kinda agree that Scott is suspicious because he seemed of like TMI'd about BM saying he will flip Wanderer 98% and that is a very high number and boom BM flipped Wanderer and his reasoning seemed weak from what i remember him saying why he thought BM would flip Wanderer. Also to lighten the mood a little here some good dance music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCl1gwX_CVA
On July 09 2015 02:23 Half the Sky wrote: Oh where oh where did those ritoky/milo scumreads go Holyflare....
And your desire to "lynch scott tomorrow" seems to have come from his 98% BM comment yet you liked his lists earlier. Same quote where you drop him and try to push Ras which others have pointed out the issue with that.
On July 08 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote: whatever trevor
probably should lynch scott tomorrow
(3 minutes after the lynch)
Do you still want to lynch either of Scott or Ras, or one over the other? You don't mention the former at all since that last quote 3m after EoD. Even after Breshke brings him up!
Why does it look like you are trying to see what sticks?
(still reading through more filters....)
so what you're saying is scum holyflare is massively inconsistent and doesn't care who he's pushing? not sure that's ever the case there
scott's lists seem good because they were generally aligning with what i was thinking, his end of day post seemed scummy because it did not align with what i was thinking and seemed like one of those posts mafia makes for no reason
having slept on it and not really reading him now i say i don't know
funny how that works right?
ritoky's start of day posts were shit, his middle of day posts weren't bad and his end of day posts weren't awful, he was on my list because i didn't really think of an alternative and i was slightly influenced by what people were saying, don't really care if that's scummy or not but it is what it is my motivation to lynch people was seriously "i don't particularly care who gets lynched at this point because nobody was generally listening to anything i said so who gives a shit"
i dunno who i want to lynch atm i'll think about it but effort is like 0 so who really cares
On July 09 2015 00:47 Holyflare wrote: Yes, the miller thing has always existed but i evaluated her play outside of it and i did not like it. The more she dodged my questions on purpose the more frustrated I got and evetually it made me just tunnel her. Now I've slept, had sex and calmed down a bit the miller thing comes back and i didn't mind when she actually did respond.
so basically HTS can do anything she wants but as long as she actually answers your questions, even if its like 2 days later, it somehow absolves her of not answering your questions earlier?
are you dumb? her posts were shit, her miller thing existed yes but it was at the back of my mind and not really being thought about, i was frustrated with everyone's ignoring of me and so ignored a lot of stuff because of that since i was getting frustrated that no matter what i said people just carried on with doing shit all and talking about cop claims and afk's and how they didn't want to lynch afk's OR even talk about them AT ALL
rethinking after sleeping i just go back to the miller thing being something that mafia hts probably doesn't do and yes that's always existed but who cares, her answers also appeased my concerns, it is what it is
for the people that thought my push on rsoultin was weird, it was driven by your shitty lack of balls and:
On July 08 2015 05:38 Holyflare wrote: ok while we are afk voting mz can someone please actually fucking converse with me about rsoultin and not give shitty reads that just say "no", nothing even answered anything I asked for
On July 08 2015 05:44 Holyflare wrote: Like. Ok. I get it. I'm not talking about the context of voting, MZ is the locked lynch right now. I'm talking about her play so far. Let's discuss it like a normal game?
also, do you think it's weird that trfel's case on me is that i think he's locked scum and angry at him but he doesn't even realise he's not a scum read of mine anymore, I do?
like trfel's posts say i'm scummy for scum reading him constantly and getting annoyed hts' posts say i'm scummy for not scum reading trfel anymore
also, I in no way, shape or form see how you can compare this game to himalays in the slightest where in this game i'm asking my scum reads questions repeatedly to get answers and in that game i was just trying to get the person lynched repeatedly without trying to rethink things
did you think that ignoring my questions would make me back off of my scum read of you? why did you not think it was apt to answer them, where did you think it would lead you?
(also i see you're not even town reading trfel lol so nvm about the last point)
ritoky's start of day posts were shit, his middle of day posts weren't bad and his end of day posts weren't awful, he was on my list because i didn't really think of an alternative and i was slightly influenced by what people were saying, don't really care if that's scummy or not but it is what it is my motivation to lynch people was seriously "i don't particularly care who gets lynched at this point because nobody was generally listening to anything i said so who gives a shit"
The way you hardpushed BM over MZ does not fit this explanation at all.
Also he called my push uninspired (lol, whatever that means, I was at it with/on milo all of d1) and said Ras's push on ruxxar was BS but she's been back and forth with him on that. So just how he's scumreading people also was suspect, which is why I chose to look into HF's reasoning for scumreading Ras, because something just didn't seem right. His response to my thoughts on her scumreading Ruxxar and then wanting to push her still was just......ew.
this is clearly a bad post since you know EXACTLY why i scum read you for your push on milo because you ANSWERED THE POST WHERE I SAID IT WAS BAD LOL
gjweogjweighw you really want me to scum read you
like, seriously, you kept saying "oh my push on milo is still strong but i'm waiting for his answers that's why it's not strong now!" but I kept asking why exactly you had 0 input on the questions I kept asking ABOUT milo to EVERYONE, you simply just ignored it. 2 of your scum reads, 1 of them is asking about the other one and you didn't even reevaluate it in the slightest, you ignored it and you didn't use milo's reactions around trfel's case or my posts towards milo in any of your posts at all, you have simply treated it like it was a non entity while saying you still scum read both of us
EPT
