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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 08 2015 18:57 GMT
#3481
@clarity: if I said I wanted to shoot HF tonight, would you be upset?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 08 2015 19:07 GMT
#3482
On July 09 2015 03:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Pokemon music is dance music?

That song is actually like a 1960s Disco Song lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 19:07 GMT
#3483
On July 09 2015 03:56 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:37 Holyflare wrote:

ritoky's start of day posts were shit, his middle of day posts weren't bad and his end of day posts weren't awful, he was on my list because i didn't really think of an alternative and i was slightly influenced by what people were saying, don't really care if that's scummy or not but it is what it is my motivation to lynch people was seriously "i don't particularly care who gets lynched at this point because nobody was generally listening to anything i said so who gives a shit"

The way you hardpushed BM over MZ does not fit this explanation at all.


you are 100% without a doubt jat, i've explained my motivation for switching to bm actually:

MZ appeared and ninja voted, said nothing:

On July 08 2015 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
hahaha i already forgot about fucking mz

ahahaha



mass exodus to MZ, don't care about it and expect him to die and want people's opinions on rsoul which they kept ignoring and you shit on for no reason other than she wasn't here to say anything (who cares about that why does that stop you talking about her????)

On July 08 2015 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
ok while we are afk voting mz can someone please actually fucking converse with me about rsoultin and not give shitty reads that just say "no", nothing even answered anything I asked for


On July 08 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz

rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me

rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct

rsoultin cases me

rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum

marv says no

rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again

11 pages, what reads do you remember her making?



plz people stop dodging all these sick reads repeatedly

On July 08 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
how about looking at her filter, why does she need to defend herself doing nothing????????????

On July 08 2015 05:44 Holyflare wrote:
Like. Ok. I get it. I'm not talking about the context of voting, MZ is the locked lynch right now. I'm talking about her play so far. Let's discuss it like a normal game?

On July 08 2015 05:53 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 07 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote:
do i really need to be all collegiate again cause that worked so well last time when y'all ignored my scumread on marv that was completely baller


for someone who says the above and then writes this post:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
Uh oh trfel
Hm?


It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss.


I will never back down from this busread. It's far too similar to what I used to experience and what I would be posting in that situation.

You can read the thread all you want but just get this in your head. All the effort you can muster for this second game in a row will be futile. Have fun


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On July 06 2015 16:00 Holyflare wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:55 Trfel wrote:
On July 06 2015 15:54 Holyflare wrote:
Hey, your vote means nothing anyway right? What harm is it following me for a bit?
I thought you were never ever going to change your read on me no matter what?


Who says my vote will be changing and why would that matter?

I know it's hard man. I feel your pain i really do. You're in the trolling and pointing out irrelevant crap for the sake of it part of the mafiarollingitis waiting for a scummy post or your motivation to reappear. It will happen later but it's already too late for you. Rest dear boy. Your time shall come again next game.


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On July 06 2015 16:37 Holyflare wrote:
I also have no idea why you repeatedly jump to people's defences before they even speak for themselves. Not only does it inhibit people playing the game and getting their groove on but it constantly gives the people under pressure multiple outs and feelings of less pressure. Back off and go to bed. You're messing with things you don't understand.


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On July 06 2015 16:44 Holyflare wrote:
What shitty logic "i know this guy best so just stop playing the game that you play where you have no information and instead of quizzing people and letting them post I'll just disregard it and blindly defend them!"

There's a reason people seemingly ignore your posts and that's the majority of the reason why.


"you're 100% scum no matter what you do hahaha"
"shut up bitch stop interfering with my quizzing"

not only was that blatant misrepresentation of what i was doing, but it started with me saying this? like, seriously?

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On July 06 2015 16:23 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 16:21 Breshke wrote:
On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote:
But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh

I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds.

Trefel what are you doing?


i missed the vote

like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that good

so basically it comes down to strength of agreement


Okay i follow.

You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell.

Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him


xP could get that from reading the thread

i've already said i doubt trfel is scum (tone! \o/) and hf isn't an imbecile lol >< i'm stubborn as hell


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On July 06 2015 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
or maybe he's already forgotten how stubborn i am, after all lol ><

pretty sure that wasn't the purpose of those questions hf xP but i'm not going to speak for him


pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain that all i was saying there was i didn't agree, and he comes back with:

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On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though.


so not only is hf misrepresenting me, but he's going out of his way to be a dick about it at the same time, and if this is his idea of just "pressuring" or "quizzing" someone, it's sure not coming through in his posts

i'm not usually this fucking paranoid, but after last game when hf and bugs spent d1/n1 deliberately shitting on me and trying to throw me on tilt...especially with how well we usually get along when he's town, i highly doubt this is town hf and i really don't care if the rest of you are too chicken shit to push him

i'm tired of getting nkd and watching hf win

again

and again

has trfel posted anything amazing? no. does that make him scum? no. i read him by his off-brand of humor and a few other indicators...i usually get a solid read on him within his first page of filter. i'm good at it. i don't give a damn if you question him, but hell if you're going to bully me into shutting up by slinging shit at me, hf



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On July 07 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:04 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:02 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here.


lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game

talk about something else
we're never going to agree on this


no thanks


fine ^^

when can we lynch hf?

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On July 07 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:41 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:37 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
why is hf town marv?

i think he's town because i intuitively grasp his reads, both scum and town, which has worked pretty reliably for me in the past


so mindmeld...how good is this read of yours? like in rough percentage?

god. like 80%?

normally what has happened is that i have a good read on HF early and then other people make me wrongly doubt it.

like if HF starts pushing things i don't see then i'll reconsider, but i've not seen that yet.

like it's *possible* he just happened to pick out a bunch of townreads that were the same i hadn't mentioned yet because he's just that good, but meeeeeh


nh

i haven't played as many games with him as you have. but the shitfight thing is a perfect read so far, and it was better than yours in ippo. i dunnae...i'll just sit on it i guess


does that look like the equivalent response???
then there's a shit fight about trfel and we get:

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On July 07 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:34 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso and Hf stop fighting.

You make the thread unreadable when you fight like this.

^
Especially rsoultin stop defending people for no reason if you aren't going to explain anything.


do you have any clue how frustrating this is?

HOLYFLARE IS MAFIA

maybe the all-caps will make this get through your thick skulls

i'm not fucking defending truffle i'm saying hf is fucking mafia for the way he's approaching this

>< whatever

i'm not doing this anymore you guys keep being obtuse


and then she just talks to me normally right after discussing all the reads??

it's so irrational

+ Show Spoiler +
maybe because she's a woman, probably because she's mafia

On July 08 2015 05:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:
HF, since you asked....

On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz

rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me

rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct

rsoultin cases me

rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum

marv says no

rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again

11 pages, what reads do you remember her making?



On July 06 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote:
Lol ruxx/hf prob scum

Get rekt

To the rest of y'all...learn to read


Pushes ruxxar after that. Is doubting that Damdred is town....

If you're going to argue that she hasn't been memorable that's a different argument I have to filter dive her to look at her other reads besides you....

On July 07 2015 03:22 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote:
harkon, what you got?

you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore


disregard

i'm possibly just being more paranoid about ruxxar, because some of the biggest clues to his scumgame, apart from that damning post end-game in his first newbie where he basically described how he was playing mafia in himalayas to the world lol ><, were in the wording

he had a completely unnatural reaction to holyflare's "but i'm town guys really" whining in particular

i could retrieve the post

like my only reservation on the whole wording thing really is that it might be a language thing, but i didn't like the combination with the soft push when everyone was up my ass


The only question I have after going through her filter is how/why she drops the ruxxar read for milo. Or rather why she drops the ruxxar read altogether. She talks about ruxxar quite a bit in her filter. And I don't think her read on Damdred was hard scum but she had concerns on it.

I don't think I'd lynch her without her talking about that stuff though.


yes obviously she has some scum reads but they are based on useless crap like the phrasing of ruxxar's post that isn't even weird in the slightest and meant nothing and that's about it, it's not intuitive of deep at all


MZ starts to catch up and post, about 5 people before me talk about switching to BM, i'd rather keep the guy that's talking alive instead of the guy that's afk claimed wanderer (which he's done before as mafia) 10/10 times. I switch with geript, exodus starts.

On July 08 2015 06:37 Holyflare wrote:
switched to bm, don't care

On July 08 2015 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
if you're here, switch to bm it's quite simple

if it gets to 5 mins left and we don't have enough go back to mz

On July 08 2015 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:42 Harkon wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
he's chronically afk as town all the time

Then why are you voting him?


because the alternative (mz) i don't think is that great of a lynch


I explain I don't particularly care but keeping the talking guy alive is better and it's far better to consolidate now, hence why i push people to vote for bm otherwise it just ends in mass confusion and possibility of a no lynch:

On July 08 2015 06:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:46 Harkon wrote:
Rsoultin why are you so happy to vote with HF on bm?


oh please as if this matters when we need to consolidate

On July 08 2015 06:50 Holyflare wrote:
at this point you should be switching to bm for consolidation regardless

On July 08 2015 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Like idk why it's such a strange question. I always try to vote for the scummiest person in my mind. A lot of you seem really hesitant to lynch either BM or myself, my question is do any of you actually find BM scummy or are you looking for an easy lynch now that I'm active and lynching me has gotten harder.

Why would you willing vote for someone you don't think is scummy. And again, maybe I just haven't gotten to the part where BM acts super scummy yet so if someone would link me I'd be happy.


lynching you is not hard, you said something that seemed towny and we switched

bm has done nothing ez lurker lynch because nobody has the balls to do a good one


mz said shit about milo or w/e and i thought "why would mafia mz ever do this anyway":

On July 08 2015 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
i don't understand why MZ wants to lynch milo in this spot


as opposed to if he was mafia and just switches to bm and stfu?


that was my main motivation for staying on bm:

On July 08 2015 06:55 Holyflare wrote:
mz is here and will play now

On July 08 2015 06:55 Holyflare wrote:
bm is intent on riding this claim and doing shit all



you know if you read my filter it's quite clear the reasons why i switched and pushed people to switch

not afkers > afkers who can just abuse the claim as mafia + defence looked slightly towny


if you should question anyone it's your shitty accusations during a time when we had to consolidate, you were clearly asking useless shitty questions about why rsoul was happy to vote with me in a majority lynch game which is retarded and useless defended rsoul being afk instead of just talking about the points with m e
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#3484
On July 09 2015 03:56 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
also hts i don't get why, if you have a town read on trfel, it's scummy if i've dropped my scum read on trfel?

You know better than this.


No. It's legitimate. If I say that I dropped my scum read on trfel after calling him mafia all game and give a reason why (his defence looked towny) is that a scummy thing to see? no
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#3485
anyway i'm actually afk now bye
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 08 2015 19:10 GMT
#3486
On July 09 2015 03:57 ruXxar wrote:
@clarity: if I said I wanted to shoot HF tonight, would you be upset?


This question is insanely dumb on so many levels, why are you asking it? Please explain what you're hoping to get out of this?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 19:15 GMT
#3487
Why would anyone want to talk to you about rsoultin when we were trying to find a lynch close to deadline and rsoultin was clearly not getting lynched? You can vomit as many walls in the thread as you want nothing you wrote actually refutes my points against you.
Could you have acted like this as town? Sure. Does it look like it? No.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 08 2015 19:17 GMT
#3488
morning everyone, I still want to lynch milo since nothing he's written has in any way seemed townie.

I also think Wave is probably scum skating under the radar.

discuss
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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 19:17 GMT
#3489
I also don't know why you would think MZ would not be posting about milo or in general if he was mafia because that is just retarded.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 19:18 GMT
#3490
On July 09 2015 04:15 Harkon wrote:
Why would anyone want to talk to you about rsoultin when we were trying to find a lynch close to deadline and rsoultin was clearly not getting lynched? You can vomit as many walls in the thread as you want nothing you wrote actually refutes my points against you.
Could you have acted like this as town? Sure. Does it look like it? No.


mz was locked in as the lynch for his returning and ninja vote don't play dumb it's in my post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 19:20 GMT
#3491
On July 09 2015 04:17 Harkon wrote:
I also don't know why you would think MZ would not be posting about milo or in general if he was mafia because that is just retarded.


hey fuck wit, if a mafia comes back to the thread and it's between him and bm i think he starts saying stuff about him being town and bm is the better lynch cz bm did this shit as mafia or some variant of that shit

to me it looked like he was catching up and giving input and talking about someone that was never getting lynched looked ok to me (read: towny)... you know, like i wrote in my post

it's quite easy to see
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 19:21 GMT
#3492
On July 09 2015 04:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:56 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
also hts i don't get why, if you have a town read on trfel, it's scummy if i've dropped my scum read on trfel?

You know better than this.


No. It's legitimate. If I say that I dropped my scum read on trfel after calling him mafia all game and give a reason why (his defence looked towny) is that a scummy thing to see? no

If you can call his last post which you said looked towny to you a defence... And yes, even if HTS townreads Trfel it is perfectly reasonable to scumread you for dropping him like this. Her read on Trfel is absolutely irrelevant for this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 19:21 GMT
#3493
unless you scum read mz this point is absolutely worthless because at this rate i voted for the person that is producing content and looks towny anyway over the person that did shit all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 08 2015 19:22 GMT
#3494
On July 09 2015 04:21 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 04:08 Holyflare wrote:
On July 09 2015 03:56 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
also hts i don't get why, if you have a town read on trfel, it's scummy if i've dropped my scum read on trfel?

You know better than this.


No. It's legitimate. If I say that I dropped my scum read on trfel after calling him mafia all game and give a reason why (his defence looked towny) is that a scummy thing to see? no

If you can call his last post which you said looked towny to you a defence... And yes, even if HTS townreads Trfel it is perfectly reasonable to scumread you for dropping him like this. Her read on Trfel is absolutely irrelevant for this.


and i don't care, it makes sense to QUESTION someone about it but not use it as a scum read if that question has been answered
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 08 2015 19:22 GMT
#3495
On July 09 2015 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
morning everyone, I still want to lynch milo since nothing he's written has in any way seemed townie.

I also think Wave is probably scum skating under the radar.

discuss



Tell me the story of milo claiming 2shot cop after attention shifts to him, after town!ritoky already claimed 1shot cop?

I could get onboard with wave but it's hard to tell one way or the other, he's just not playing the game much. He was nonchalant early game which I liked but he didn't care at all who got lynched.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 19:23 GMT
#3496
On July 09 2015 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
unless you scum read mz this point is absolutely worthless because at this rate i voted for the person that is producing content and looks towny anyway over the person that did shit all

This reasoning is so bad. MZs alignment is completely irrelevant for this.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 19:26 GMT
#3497
It's the "why would I do this as scum?" argument you love to make as mafia and you made better ones than this as mafia. You would basically do anything as scum and if you think I believe you wouldn't push one townie over another then you are pretty stupid.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 08 2015 19:27 GMT
#3498
On July 09 2015 04:26 Harkon wrote:
It's the "why would I do this as scum?" argument you love to make as mafia and you made better ones than this as mafia. You would basically do anything as scum and if you think I believe you wouldn't push one townie over another then you are pretty stupid.



So you think MZ is town, then?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 08 2015 19:27 GMT
#3499
On July 09 2015 04:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:57 ruXxar wrote:
@clarity: if I said I wanted to shoot HF tonight, would you be upset?


This question is insanely dumb on so many levels, why are you asking it? Please explain what you're hoping to get out of this?


I'm curious of how upset you would be if HF died.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 08 2015 19:28 GMT
#3500
On July 09 2015 04:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 04:26 Harkon wrote:
It's the "why would I do this as scum?" argument you love to make as mafia and you made better ones than this as mafia. You would basically do anything as scum and if you think I believe you wouldn't push one townie over another then you are pretty stupid.



So you think MZ is town, then?

I have not decided what I think about MZ. That post is a response to HF saying I can only call him scum if MZ is mafia.
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