Mafia in the Himalayas - Page 14

On June 19 2015 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:

Ya I people were still doubting my claim and still thought I was scum for it so I decided enough was enough and decided to just put it to rest.

On June 19 2015 10:29 ritoky wrote:
Yo, LS I calmed down a bit while cooking dinner. I am sorry if me brow beating you turned you off from playing, had no intention of doing that. I think it is the sub-par play thus far combined with an agitator in the thread (who is getting a rise out of me and rsoul who are usually pretty nice) that drove me to just keep hammering you. I kinda realized something though. Way back when I started playing on another forum I did a whole fake claim shennanigans, rescind claim lulz stuff and some1 went absolutely apeshit on me and I was town and it was just bad all around. I kinda ended up being that guy and not being capable of imagining a world in which this comes from town.

So I am gonna try and just wash this whole claim business out of my brain (no promises) and evaluate your play not centered around it. So far from what I have gone through in your filter, I still have you leaning scum (particularly cuz of the shockeyy read flip thing too); but I won't just auto vote and ignore you. Please give reads before the end of the night so I can keep evaluating you with as open of a mind as I can.

On June 19 2015 12:19 LightningStrike wrote:

I will I prob just make a document of my reads if I can figure out how to do one like Bugs did last game to make it easier for you guys to see my reasoning and stuff for it by End of Night. Also about shockeyy his hammer seemed really odd considering that he was scumreading GB more than Boxerfred I think if I recalled correctly but you know sometimes people do odd things at End of Days.

On June 19 2015 11:02 rsoultin wrote:
for anyone wondering...

i'm just gonna come right out and be blunt about it (sorry if i offend you ls)

lightningstrike, who barely can scratch together the motivation to play under normal circumstances, has been trying way too hard for scum given circumstances that he'd have to be a complete asshole to make up. and he's not a complete asshole <3 simply, if he rolled scum, he would definitely have replaced out much earlier and i sincerely doubt hts doesn't prioritize his request all things considered

like the only way this isn't true if he's lying about what happened which i refuse to believe he'd even consider doing

he's basically confirmed town in my eyes, and really should be to any players who know him more than passingly

that's my spiel

On June 19 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:


dirty in what way?

like, there are things about lightningstrike that i simply don't say cause it's not my place, but this comes from a place beyond meta or tone and goes right to his personality. i've talked to him extensively and we've spent time together outside this forum. personally, and i understand if people don't accept this judgment but i'm pretty confident of it, i think it is completely beyond him to do this as scum. he's been criticized multiple times for being lazy as scum and not playing simply because he's not "motivated". if he ever does overcome that, i sincerely doubt this is that first time

On June 19 2015 12:26 Breshke wrote:


Me sheeping rsouls most recent read makes me questioning you about any of your claim stuff redundent

Basically what it was going to amount to is I don't understand how you thought unclaiming would make the thing you dislike, being pressure, stop occurring.

I eagerly await your reads thingo though.

On June 19 2015 12:29 rsoultin wrote:


at the risk of sounding bitchy, ls...that neither makes him infallible nor town

you say he's good

he builds a case on at least one but quite probably three towns all in one day, and maybe it's just that we see the world differently but his cases didn't really impress me...he took things that were odd and from what seemed like confirmation bias chose to paint them all scum through the prism of "motivation" which is a fancy way of saying narrative...especially if he doesn't take the time to consider both possible motivations

to me that isn't good

the problem of reconciling one with the other has me wavering on him constantly

On June 19 2015 12:33 LightningStrike wrote:

Just trust me on this meta read he normally doesn't do cases and tunnel hard as scum from my research on him

On June 19 2015 12:34 rsoultin wrote:
i should probably bother to read his filter in the witchcraft game but i don't know if i want to subject myself to that more than i have to lol in all honesty

also...i know this sounds strange...but i really don't know what to make of his comment to you, LS

five players like you in the game more than any other player in the game? because he thinks he can read you better? because he was actually trying to be nice, which seems out of character for him? or, and this is paranoia i know but i can't shake it, because you follow him around blindly and do what he says

if it's that last...that's not really a town sentiment. it's not because of your play this game in terms of helping find scum. that's certain

On June 19 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:


no? can you link those so i can put this to rest?

@.@ the tunneling and being a bastard about it in the process is supremely off-putting

On June 19 2015 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:

Okay here is his latest town game:
Witchcraft III(Me scum vs him Town): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=Wherebugsgo
Here his scum games:
Space Station(Killed Day 3): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/327685-space-station-mafia?user=wherebugsgo
Storm(Lynched Day 5): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/313426-storm-mafia?user=wherebugsgo
BC's Arkham City(Killed Night 2): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/305850-bcs-arkham-city?user=wherebugsgo
Responsibility(Killed Night 2): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/295384-responsibility-mafia?user=wherebugsgo
Mini Mafia X(Survived): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/284685-mini-mafia-x?user=wherebugsgo
Team Melee Mini Mafia - Couples Therapy(Lynched Day 3): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/281403-team-melee-mini-mafia-couples-therapy?user=wherebugsgo
My Little Pony Mafia(Survived Day 3): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/263036-my-little-pony-mafia?user=wherebugsgo

On June 19 2015 13:00 rsoultin wrote:
hey ls, you're the meta master

check my gb meta/personality/tonal thing for me will you?

i assert that

1) he often does use all caps as either alignment
2) he has made bad cases as town
3) his attention shifts quickly in many directions, and often associatively (i.e in Assassination he was so convinced marv was scum that anyone marv voted on he refused to vote for, regardless of his own read on the player) while as scum he tends to focus in on just one or two things and ride it hard (this is not to say he doesn't tunnel as town, just that as town he actually looks outside the tunnel)

On June 20 2015 00:48 Onegu wrote:



I dont want you to lunch him I want you to lynch him.

Next game when LS rolls Cop an Important role and claims day one with town you for shit reasons. And is shot N1 and you lose because you lost your cop you will be all like DAMN ONEGU TOO SMART IF ONLY I PLYNCHED LS THAT GAME WE COULD HAVE WON.

Or next game LS rolls scum and fake claims because it is his town meta to do so against town GB and you dont lynch him because that is his meta. You will be all like DAMN ONEGU TOO SMART IF ONLY I PLYNCHED LS THAT GAME WE COULD HAVE WON.

On June 20 2015 01:02 KelsierSC wrote:


killing you is playing to the town win condition regardless of your alignment,

On June 20 2015 01:03 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, that "playing against your win con" looks so bad.

On June 20 2015 01:08 KelsierSC wrote:


ok if GB is town who are the mafia ?

On June 20 2015 01:11 KelsierSC wrote:


I'm more interested in what you think of Ls actually not me

On June 20 2015 01:16 Onegu wrote:



What about the JK claim?