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feels good man | ||
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On June 06 2015 09:57 Blazinghand wrote: Basically the same challenge given how Chen scales and how beastly he is early idk for whatever reason whenever I play chen I end up severely outfarming my shitty carries I get like 8 min mek 15-16 min aghs and yet they still end up dying through double heals e: ok more like 20 min aghs | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:01 Blazinghand wrote: Welcome to Day 1! This Day ends in ~48 hours at Sunday, Jun 07 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00). wat | ||
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also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great | ||
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who are you | ||
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##vote FreezingFoot I say we kill this foot unless he convinces us of his identity and why we should keep him alive. I for one do not want to be led by two left feet quotes about feet: The human foot is a masterpiece of engineering and a work of art. -Leonardo da Vinci (load of shit) The foot feels the foot when it feels the ground. -Buddha (wat) When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands. =George Carlin (I would rather my life not be in the hands of this foot....or should it be...wait feet don't have hands) | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:21 Kickstart wrote: Satan told me that wherebugsgo is not an Acolyte as he himself didn't know what an Acolyte was. He also said that a true member of the order would know who is strongest and that the question is an attempt to infiltrate the coven and discover who our most powerful and wise Acolytes are in order to target them first. You can not fool the dark lord so easily wherebugsgo. the dark lord can suck my d&*$ | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/akYsBfi.png?1) seems like your dark lord would do to me exactly as described, since I am a blasphemer Bet he'd enjoy it too, that devil! | ||
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refusing to divulge relevant information sure is! identity is a large part of mafia. | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote: Hi So do you think someone that has chosen to smurf is more likely to reveal who they are as town or mafia then? I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town. Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory. It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour. You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing. | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote: But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity. Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom. Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X? What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler? How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong. | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:42 Kickstart wrote: It is helpful by way of making a point. It is not helpful in so far as having the question answered because you ask the question knowing it won't be answered. If he was interested in displaying his identity he would not be in a disguise. It does not take a wise man to posit your question. you apparently don't understand. It is in town's benefit to know his identity. If he refuses while taking votes that's anti-town. So just vote him and see what he does. If he doesn't give town anything what use is he alive? His contribution to this conversation has been a gif in response to my quote post. It is early in the day, but this is a good chance to see how our smurf wants to play the game. | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:44 Breshke wrote: not really. Do you? Yeah I understand this but that doesn't make not revealing who you are to be alignment indicative. If someone has chosen to smurf they have chosen pre game that they probably don't want to reveal who they are. I feel like saying, reveal yourself or get lynched, is a waste because it depends on the player on how they will act so you can't really get much from that. No it isn't. Read what I said again. The player does not necessarily have to reveal themselves. They just have to prove they can contribute. Asking that of scum will result in one or more of a.) More questions, b.) Nothing, c.) A bunch of filler nonsense, or d.) A response that takes a lot of effort. Asking a townie will often give us something useful. It may be the actual behaviour in the response itself (and so far actually his response has been a bit useful to me in getting a read on him) and it may be the subsequent posts as we get reads/thoughts on the game/thought process from the player. a.), b.) and c.) are all great, those types of responses would warrant more votes. d.) almost never happens because scum on this forum suck. But if it did, it would take a good amount of time for it to come out and it would probably be incredibly underwhelming from a scum. Also to talk about this now instead of when mafia will be trying to hunt roles. I think it is best in at least the first phase that a lot of the chosen powers are information type roles specifically scrying What?? Mafia are always hunting roles. I also don't understand, is this supposed to be separate from the previous part of the post? Are you saying that the people who are voted to get roles choose investigative ones? | ||
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On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote: It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment. So it's a scum behaviour to question nothing...at the beginning of day 1, when by definition there is nothing to question. Where do you come up with this logic? | ||
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No you don't, because you repeatedly have shown an inability to read what I am saying. I have said twice now that a smurf DOES NOT HAVE TO REVEAL THEMSELVES to satisfy my line of questioning. I simply want more out of this particular player. The responses I have received so far have been relatively lukewarm at best. However, I'm going to step it up a bit further. I agree with your general premise but not your methodology. I have already said the important question in regards to our mystery man is whether he will use his identity to impart wisdom and knowledge or to sow confusion. So did I, you just failed to read where I said it. Twice. Now three times, actually, and if you count this now, four. You seem to miss the point that had he been interested in revealing his identity he would have done so. This goes back to my earlier question to you: Do you ask him to reveal his identity so that when he refuses you can accuse him? Why would a member of the coven do such a thing when they already know that the outcome will be that he does not revel himself. Nope. You're not reading. Keep this up and I'm going to just ignore you. Your argument so far has been that his withholding his identity is suspicious and his posting style thus far is suspicious. But if we do not know his identity how can we judge his posting style as indicative of anything? All that said, our mystery man does need to choose his path. He either gives us wisdom and clarity or he sows confusion, and his fate is decided by which course of action he chooses to take. Nope. I am saying you do not understand because, well...you don't. Let me clarify for you what has happened so far, and what is now worth discussing. On June 08 2015 08:21 FreezingFoot wrote: Btw I don't like this opening. Sounds like a guy trying too hard do say "oh I'm town /sob", and asking people for names to work with. He doesn't like my opening. Sign #1 he doesn't like me. Cool. Let's skip over his direct response to my vote, because it was useless. Third post following my vote: On June 08 2015 08:48 FreezingFoot wrote: It's not a scum motivated question. But you questioned nothing. it is a scum behaviour. It's basically a policy lynch that you get behind without compromising yourself. You won't have to rely on building original reads. You just see a townie and justify a push on him without actually caring for his alignment. What I exhibited is a "scum behaviour" according to Freezingfoot. He didn't like my original post, and he thinks I am not trying to build original reads. He claims I don't care about his alignment. Fourth post: On June 08 2015 09:00 FreezingFoot wrote: Tell us who you are? It will help town = town approach You're mafia because you're not telling us who you are = scum approach. Implicitly calling my approach scum approach. But not directly doing it. If Freezingfoot thinks my approach is so scummy, in four straight posts.... Why doesn't he vote me? If he tries to get me killed directly that would be one thing, but he's just weakly throwing back mud at me. | ||
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