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[M][N] I Still Can't Believe it's not Themed Mafia

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 04 2015 09:12 GMT
#28
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This is a terrible idea.
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I will probably maybe potentially not be modkilled
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#53
First.

Confirmed town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 04 2015 23:25 GMT
#55
Honestly he deserves it for not just instantly buying a D2 LoD key.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 00:09 GMT
#79
On June 05 2015 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
Artanis? Ewww

##Vote Marvellosity
My ego is hurt.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#190
Marv is probably town for reasons JAT would hate.
I liked Sodium Chloride's case on Mig. Wouldn't consider it a lock though.
I also like Prplhz in that he wasn't afraid to go after Chez, a dangerous move to anyone that knows him. Also feels too forthcoming and relaxed to be scum.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 11:58 GMT
#193
On June 05 2015 20:56 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 05 2015 20:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Marv is probably town for reasons JAT would hate.


You will never know unless you tell me the reasons you have.

He's actually putting in a bit of effort after rolling scum last game. I'd imagine he'd just roll over and die this game.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 11:59 GMT
#195
No.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 12:03 GMT
#199
On June 05 2015 21:00 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 05 2015 20:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 05 2015 20:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 05 2015 20:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Marv is probably town for reasons JAT would hate.


You will never know unless you tell me the reasons you have.

He's actually putting in a bit of effort after rolling scum last game. I'd imagine he'd just roll over and die this game.

Ok, you are right - I hate it. What he has done so far barely qualifies as effort.

I think it's likely to be enough still. I also meant that you hate those kinds of reasons in general.
On June 05 2015 21:01 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 05 2015 20:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No.

pls stop being boring/weird then.

Whether I'm going to be boring/weird wouldn't change my role PM though, so that's irrelevant.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 12:11 GMT
#203
On June 05 2015 21:07 justanothertownie wrote:
I do not hate those kind of reasons at all - they can be totally valid. But it doesn't applyvin this case at all. Btw why is it risky for prplhz to go after chez? Don't say chezinu rule because if you do you just prove that you do not actually know the chezinu rule.

Yes you do, you've mentioned that you hate how certain people can be read as town or scum simply based on their effort level. I also do think it applies even though he's being bad.

As for Chezinu, going after him has a tendency of ending poorly because of how he's known as a 'troll'. Going after these types is actually the hardest because it's generally considered the easiest target (which sounds like a paradox, but I think it's accurate)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 12:17 GMT
#206
I honestly think that knowing prplhz as a player he would be unlikely to attack Chez as scum-town, and it's also not just the what but the how. It looked very natural to me, as does the rest of his filter.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 19:56 GMT
#252
I think this game needs some action, berating for people being bad and stuff like that.
I hardclaim jailkeeper.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 19:59 GMT
#254
ok.
##Unvote
##Vote Fecalfeast
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:01 GMT
#256
Do you have an opinion of your own, Slam?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:07 GMT
#269
On June 06 2015 05:06 yamato77 wrote:
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On June 06 2015 04:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think this game needs some action, berating for people being bad and stuff like that.
I hardclaim jailkeeper.

the fuck is your problem?

zzzzzzz

this is like those artanis medic claims in voice mafia, don't take them seriously

Thank you, this is getting much better.
On June 06 2015 05:06 marvellosity wrote:
would lynch Artanis -> fuba -> yamato

Still bad.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#276
On June 06 2015 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 06 2015 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 05:06 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 04:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think this game needs some action, berating for people being bad and stuff like that.
I hardclaim jailkeeper.

the fuck is your problem?

zzzzzzz

this is like those artanis medic claims in voice mafia, don't take them seriously

Thank you, this is getting much better.
On June 06 2015 05:06 marvellosity wrote:
would lynch Artanis -> fuba -> yamato

Still bad.

hardly, everything you've done and said has been trash.

look at yourself if you are town.

Nah, my reads are probably good and your top scumread is 100% town so that makes you bad.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:12 GMT
#285
On June 06 2015 05:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not actually counterclaiming jk jeez

Boring.
##Unvote
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:15 GMT
#290
Lock.
Jail.
Jailkeeper.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:18 GMT
#294
It wasn't meant to be so obvious, was just meant to be a trail but marv had to go and put a fucking magnifying glass on it.
I figure mafia would figure it out by N1 anyway so mind as well get it out.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:21 GMT
#299
I should never be lynched until far later in the game since that way mafia has to deal with the claim.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:24 GMT
#307
On June 06 2015 05:22 yamato77 wrote:
>closed setup
>early JK claim
>mfw

artanis your crumbs are fucking awful

I know, I expected it to get buried.
I just had a dose of cba this game so I figured it'd be wise to crumb to a potential safety claim since I've been getting nearly lynched lately.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:25 GMT
#311
On June 06 2015 05:23 marvellosity wrote:
There is absolutely no way a town Artanis claims jailkeeper for no reason here.

None.

He is scum.

You are going to be so disappointed.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:27 GMT
#316
On June 06 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 06 2015 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 05:23 marvellosity wrote:
There is absolutely no way a town Artanis claims jailkeeper for no reason here.

None.

He is scum.

You are going to be so disappointed.

then why did you claim?

what possible motivation when you have a total of 1 vote on you?

Because the thread was boring and I figured with the attention you gave to that part mafia would've certainly noticed and probably figured it out. This way at least everyone has the info.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:28 GMT
#319
On June 06 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:
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On June 06 2015 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 05:26 marvellosity wrote:
On June 06 2015 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 05:23 marvellosity wrote:
There is absolutely no way a town Artanis claims jailkeeper for no reason here.

None.

He is scum.

You are going to be so disappointed.

then why did you claim?

what possible motivation when you have a total of 1 vote on you?

Because the thread was boring and I figured with the attention you gave to that part mafia would've certainly noticed and probably figured it out. This way at least everyone has the info.

that's so bad.

this is why i'm playing less and less.

i can't handle the sort of nonsense yamato + artanis are pulling this game.

i don't find it enjoyable.

it's too bad for me to find enjoyable

I agree the original crumb was bad but eh, it happened and this sequence of events cascaded from it. Deal with it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:30 GMT
#323
On June 06 2015 05:30 Alakaslam wrote:
What original crumb?

The lock comment.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 20:37 GMT
#329
On June 06 2015 05:36 yamato77 wrote:
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On June 06 2015 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
like if artanis is actually town JK, why is he calling me bad for actually picking out the specific phrasing he used to make a crumb, which is by definition unnatural?

at worst that makes me very perceptive and intuitive of artanis' usual posting style. it is in fact excellent even if the reason ends up being wrong.

he never called you bad, marv

your jimmies are rustled over nothing

Actually I did call him bad a few times. I just called him bad because his conclusion was wrong and because I was being an asshole.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 21:10 GMT
#334
Alright. Can we move past my stupidity and find the mafia now?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 21:18 GMT
#337
I actually think JAT might be mafia. He's commenting and giving opinions on everyone but he's not really pushing anyone. When we had our exchange he was commenting on the sidelines and saying things like "Let's just say Artanis is not impressing me by throwing poorly reasoned townreads around." He wasn't really trying to discern my alignment I feel, and I've felt that way about all of his posts so far. Commenting without digging.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 21:21 GMT
#339
Did you look into his filter yet?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:05 GMT
#348
On June 06 2015 07:00 Chezinu wrote:
hey guys he guys!

You know what marvellosity and fecalfeast have in common?

An equal number of t's in their nicknames?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:14 GMT
#350
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:36 GMT
#357
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
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On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:39 GMT
#362
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:42 GMT
#365
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis.

care to explain?

I'm all ears.

There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl.

So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:45 GMT
#367
On June 06 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis.

care to explain?

I'm all ears.

There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl.

So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.

Why would you ever think that? Why would he ever point that out if he really thinks that? As town he would never point it out if he thinks it is a crumb. As scum he would also never do it and instead just kill you.

I mean AFTER he points it out it should be obvious to anyone that knows my alignment for CERTAIN
as I've already mentioned I think marv is town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:47 GMT
#371
Also I can see a jk and a doc if scum have a rber and a vig or something along those lines.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:49 GMT
#373
On June 06 2015 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
[quote]

More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis.

care to explain?

I'm all ears.

There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl.

So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.

Why would you ever think that? Why would he ever point that out if he really thinks that? As town he would never point it out if he thinks it is a crumb. As scum he would also never do it and instead just kill you.

I mean AFTER he points it out it should be obvious to anyone that knows my alignment for CERTAIN
as I've already mentioned I think marv is town.

No. Why on earth would that be obvious? Just no.

People seem to pick up on way less and I never read blues well so yeah.
On June 06 2015 07:47 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis.

care to explain?

I'm all ears.

There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl.

So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.


At no point did you ever mention the word jail. Marvellosity had only ever mentioned that your usage of the word lock did not make sense with the phrase that you had said beforehand in regards to Mig. It is facetious that you could make us believe that mafia would be "onto you" from that phrase alone. The phrase jail had never existed with your posts up until you had claimed jailkeeper.

Believe it or not, it's what I believed at the time and I still think it's likely I would've been found. There was also a certain amount of yolo involved given how slow the thread was going and I was bored.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:50 GMT
#374
Also as scum if this had happened I'd know I'd have been caught and just afk for the rest of the day. Self-meta and all but it's probably accurate.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:57 GMT
#382
On June 06 2015 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
[quote]
Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
[quote]
Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
[quote]
care to explain?

I'm all ears.

There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl.

So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.

Why would you ever think that? Why would he ever point that out if he really thinks that? As town he would never point it out if he thinks it is a crumb. As scum he would also never do it and instead just kill you.

I mean AFTER he points it out it should be obvious to anyone that knows my alignment for CERTAIN
as I've already mentioned I think marv is town.

No. Why on earth would that be obvious? Just no.

People seem to pick up on way less and I never read blues well so yeah.
On June 06 2015 07:47 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which ruse? I've already fully owned up to being bad. Are you going to be bad with me?

Your claim is so utterly terrible it is mindblowing. I have no idea how you can think doing this is a good idea (at least as town) regardless of your role. I refuse to believe that you actually felt threatened by 1 fucking vote.

I have not been trying to figure out the game? When I was in the thread I was basically the only one to do this at all.

I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:32 NaCl`y wrote:
@Artanis

I think you know which ruse I am talking about.

I counterclaim jailkeeper.


More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:33 NaCl`y wrote:
[quote]

More specifically, doctor. Not jailkeeper.

If this is a harcclaim we are 100 % lynching artanis.

care to explain?

I'm all ears.

There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl.

So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.


At no point did you ever mention the word jail. Marvellosity had only ever mentioned that your usage of the word lock did not make sense with the phrase that you had said beforehand in regards to Mig. It is facetious that you could make us believe that mafia would be "onto you" from that phrase alone. The phrase jail had never existed with your posts up until you had claimed jailkeeper.

Believe it or not, it's what I believed at the time and I still think it's likely I would've been found. There was also a certain amount of yolo involved given how slow the thread was going and I was bored.

There is no reason to claim now if you think you would have been found. 0 reason. The only possible reason to claim is if you really thought you were getting lynched and I refuse to believe that a guy that has never been mislynched thinks he cannot avoid the lynch when he has 1 vote half way through day1. If you think you have maybe been found out you claim at the end of night 1 maybe but not earlier in case you have NOT been found out. There is no upside to claiming in your position as town.

Sure there is; eliminating myself from the lynch pool and discussion so we can talk about people that can actually be mafia. Plus it caused the thread to actually get out of the drag.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:58 GMT
#383
On June 06 2015 07:57 prplhz wrote:
@Artanis[Xp] If it was so obvious that "lock" means jailkeeper, then why didn't marvellosity figure that out? He's sort of a smart fellow isn't he?

Because he didn't know my alignment and it was already weird to him. For someone who does know alignments the options are much more limited.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 22:59 GMT
#387
On June 06 2015 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
[quote]
I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
[quote]
So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.

Why would you ever think that? Why would he ever point that out if he really thinks that? As town he would never point it out if he thinks it is a crumb. As scum he would also never do it and instead just kill you.

I mean AFTER he points it out it should be obvious to anyone that knows my alignment for CERTAIN
as I've already mentioned I think marv is town.

No. Why on earth would that be obvious? Just no.

People seem to pick up on way less and I never read blues well so yeah.
On June 06 2015 07:47 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
[quote]
Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.


I fail to believe any mini game would be so utterly awful at that kind of balance. I am quite content to get lynched first for the trade.

We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
On June 06 2015 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
I wasn't feeling all that threatened, I just figured that scum would figure out the crumb I made anyway after marv pointed it out.
[quote]
Then you're either scum or there's both a doc and jk in the game, which given it's a closed setup is possible. I'm not sure which to believe.

I also don't believe you thought scum would catch on to your ridiculous "crumb". You are not this bad.

I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
[quote]
care to explain?

I'm all ears.

There are never both jk and doctor in the game. If the salty guy hardclaims we are lynching the shit out of artanis. In the worst case he trades 1:1 with mafia NaCl.

So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.


At no point did you ever mention the word jail. Marvellosity had only ever mentioned that your usage of the word lock did not make sense with the phrase that you had said beforehand in regards to Mig. It is facetious that you could make us believe that mafia would be "onto you" from that phrase alone. The phrase jail had never existed with your posts up until you had claimed jailkeeper.

Believe it or not, it's what I believed at the time and I still think it's likely I would've been found. There was also a certain amount of yolo involved given how slow the thread was going and I was bored.

There is no reason to claim now if you think you would have been found. 0 reason. The only possible reason to claim is if you really thought you were getting lynched and I refuse to believe that a guy that has never been mislynched thinks he cannot avoid the lynch when he has 1 vote half way through day1. If you think you have maybe been found out you claim at the end of night 1 maybe but not earlier in case you have NOT been found out. There is no upside to claiming in your position as town.

Sure there is; eliminating myself from the lynch pool and discussion so we can talk about people that can actually be mafia. Plus it caused the thread to actually get out of the drag.

You are not bad enough to think that this is justification enough to claim this role. Nope.

It is when you add in the fact that I thought and still think mafia knew already at that point. Whether you believe that or not is up to you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 23:00 GMT
#390
On June 06 2015 07:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:57 prplhz wrote:
@Artanis[Xp] If it was so obvious that "lock" means jailkeeper, then why didn't marvellosity figure that out? He's sort of a smart fellow isn't he?

Because he didn't know my alignment and it was already weird to him. For someone who does know alignments the options are much more limited.

So marv is 100% town or are you just covering your ass?

Not 100% town but extremely likely, yes.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 23:00 GMT
#391
On June 06 2015 08:00 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:57 prplhz wrote:
@Artanis[Xp] If it was so obvious that "lock" means jailkeeper, then why didn't marvellosity figure that out? He's sort of a smart fellow isn't he?

Because he didn't know my alignment and it was already weird to him. For someone who does know alignments the options are much more limited.

No he didn't know your alignment but obvious he thought "Would Artanis[Xp] do this as town" and "Would Artanis[Xp] do this as scum". He thought about you alignment and considered both, obviously. marvellosity is not the tunnely kind of guy now is he?

In a closed setup I imagine townies won't think much about blue roles and I don't really have a history of crumbing anything either. He probably did not consider the option (thoroughly).
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 05 2015 23:03 GMT
#400
On June 06 2015 08:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 07:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.

Why would you ever think that? Why would he ever point that out if he really thinks that? As town he would never point it out if he thinks it is a crumb. As scum he would also never do it and instead just kill you.

I mean AFTER he points it out it should be obvious to anyone that knows my alignment for CERTAIN
as I've already mentioned I think marv is town.

No. Why on earth would that be obvious? Just no.

People seem to pick up on way less and I never read blues well so yeah.
On June 06 2015 07:47 NaCl`y wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 06 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
We don't know what roles scum have. I'm not quite as convinced as you, more so because I see little reason for you to fakeclaim as scum here. Then again, Toad did do it in LX or whatever so I guess it's possible, but it seems unlikely.
[quote]
I actually figured you already figured it out when you kept talking about how bad I looked yet never voted or actually pushed me. I don't doubt that a 3-player scumteam would figure it out themselves.

Noone would ever make the connectionof lock = jail. Are you kidding me.
On June 06 2015 07:40 yamato77 wrote:
[quote]
So you're banking on lynching claims in a closed setup?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes. There are never ever both jk and doctor in a 13 player mini with scum having 1 KP. NEVER.

How does lock and jail not make sense together? When marv pointed it out so strongly I figured it was obvious.


At no point did you ever mention the word jail. Marvellosity had only ever mentioned that your usage of the word lock did not make sense with the phrase that you had said beforehand in regards to Mig. It is facetious that you could make us believe that mafia would be "onto you" from that phrase alone. The phrase jail had never existed with your posts up until you had claimed jailkeeper.

Believe it or not, it's what I believed at the time and I still think it's likely I would've been found. There was also a certain amount of yolo involved given how slow the thread was going and I was bored.

There is no reason to claim now if you think you would have been found. 0 reason. The only possible reason to claim is if you really thought you were getting lynched and I refuse to believe that a guy that has never been mislynched thinks he cannot avoid the lynch when he has 1 vote half way through day1. If you think you have maybe been found out you claim at the end of night 1 maybe but not earlier in case you have NOT been found out. There is no upside to claiming in your position as town.

Sure there is; eliminating myself from the lynch pool and discussion so we can talk about people that can actually be mafia. Plus it caused the thread to actually get out of the drag.

You are not bad enough to think that this is justification enough to claim this role. Nope.

It is when you add in the fact that I thought and still think mafia knew already at that point. Whether you believe that or not is up to you.

I don't.

Then vote me and be done with it. I've explained it from my side and if that doesn't convince you then there's no point continuing this exchange.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 10:56 GMT
#468
Okay has anyone said anything new? I'm tired of reading 8 pages of people calling my play terrible. I'm aware of it. Sometimes townies do terrible things. It happens.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 11:07 GMT
#473
On June 06 2015 20:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay has anyone said anything new? I'm tired of reading 8 pages of people calling my play terrible. I'm aware of it. Sometimes townies do terrible things. It happens.

You are getting lynched. If you are town and did terrible things I would expect you to have no problem with putting in an effort to prevent this ir at least try to solce the game/leave a legacy before. Instead you don't even seem willing to analyse the people pushing on you or to even read the thread. Die, scum.

I did terrible things, but you don't have to be a dick and hammer that home every god damn page. Your position is clear and the way you keep going about it is actually really demotivating.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 11:12 GMT
#475
Yeah, I've totally never been terrible before as town. I've heard that one before.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 14:51 GMT
#490
I kinda like how Fuba pointed out Prplhz's switch on me. It did feel a bit sudden and his justification is pretty bad. It doesn't look like he believes I'm scum yet he does vote me. I'm not sure it offsets the initial feel I had for him being town though.

On June 06 2015 07:00 Chezinu wrote:
hey guys he guys!

You know what marvellosity and fecalfeast have in common?

Can you expand on this Chez?

I also think scum are likely in the lurkers. I don't really think Marv can be scum for reasons mentioned before. I don't really think JAT is scum anymore since his push on me feels genuine coming from him. NaCl's claim also feels like it came from town and he doesn't seem like the type to yoloclaim as scum given the big analytical way he approached the game earlier. Slamfish too happy and carefree to be scum. Yamato pushing against my lynch also feels townie to me, I feel as scum he'd probably just go with the flow and not bother too much/get swayed by JAT, though his non-caring for the lynch getting through and being fine with 'not being a part of it' is mildly concerning.

I still think Mig looks bad for the original case of NaCl. His comeback was also a bit meh, points out two interactions between Marv/Yam and me/Fecal then doesn't really do anything with it, then jumps on the bandwagon. Could lynch.

Fuba, Boxerfred, Vayne, and Fecal; all little clue. Need more time to figure them out.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 15:20 GMT
#497
On June 07 2015 00:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 00:04 fuba wrote:
Also a little strange that JAT didn't incredibly hate the part of my post where I said I believe artanis's claim, given that he thinks the claim to be the most obviously false thing in the game.

Yeah, so strange. Or maybe it is not strange because I didn't call out anybody else for it either and there have been plenty of people trying to justify it (and people really should be since lynching a claimed JK IS a big deal - if you analyse the whole claim/read my case there shouldn't be any doubt though). Being wrong does not make anyone mafia on its own.

You're claiming you have no doubt? You believe I'm flipping mafia 100% of the time? Really?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 16:01 GMT
#502
Well, that was interesting.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 16:02 GMT
#504
I'm just going to claim this was all planned and I read natrium chloride's mind and we made a sick play together that got tons of useful reads worth more than my role.

Yes, that's it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 16:05 GMT
#507
You have made that abundantly clear already JAT. I'm not sure it was necessary to mention again.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 16:43 GMT
#529
Honestly I can see Marv's reaction to the claims post-claim as marv simply being less involved in the game because of stupidity, thus caring less about the game which leads to more mellow replies than marv normally would give. I still think he's likely to be town.

Going to read the yamato thing more in depth now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 16:46 GMT
#534
You're saying this level of involvement is par for the course for town marv?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 17:07 GMT
#545
People keep giving me money in poker whilst I'm trying to read the thread. Most annoying.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 17:15 GMT
#546
I don't think I agree on the Yamato thing though. I believed your claim and I knew mine was genuine, so I'm not sure you can use it to judge him so harshly. If Yamato is mafia, he should be confounded at both claims just as much since 2 medic-ish claims should sound just as weird to mafia as town, especially if mafia doesn't have any additional kp or more than one RBer. I don't think him believing the claims makes him scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:23 GMT
#600
Okay I'm here. Is there a case on Fecal other than him being absolutely useless?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:38 GMT
#627
On June 07 2015 05:29 Mig wrote:
My case against fecal is this,

1) claims not to have read the case against me and asks if it is good when there was nothing at all to read.
2) Makes absolutely no effort to comment on who he thinks is mafia. When originally poked he just comes in and says every case sucks.
3) When it looked like the thread was swinging against artanis he lightly stepped backed saying we should discuss other things. He then just disappears without discussing anything.

And now he gives a town read on slam, great! Very useful.

So basically, he's being useless and trolly.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:41 GMT
#630
On June 07 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:29 Mig wrote:
My case against fecal is this,

1) claims not to have read the case against me and asks if it is good when there was nothing at all to read.
2) Makes absolutely no effort to comment on who he thinks is mafia. When originally poked he just comes in and says every case sucks.
3) When it looked like the thread was swinging against artanis he lightly stepped backed saying we should discuss other things. He then just disappears without discussing anything.

And now he gives a town read on slam, great! Very useful.

So basically, he's being useless and trolly.

Who would you lynch?

I really dunno. Might even want to go for Chez. He's been around and posting random stuff which he then never gets back to and it's not in an interesting chez kind of style either. He looks uninspired which I'd more likely imagine he'd be if he rolled scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:43 GMT
#636
On June 07 2015 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:34 Mig wrote:
I actually think artanis has been utterly worthless, and way way worse than noir mafia. I have no reason to think hes town but I dont think people are going to lynch him after his claim that is uncountered.

Prplhz I am more than willing to discuss jta if you want to lynch him. If you dont then you are wasting what little time we have.


Feast/artanis interaction - If either of artanis/feast are scum it is very unlikely that the other is also. The claim/counter claim/ artanis vote feast stuff is too random. Just a weird/unlikely series of interactions if the scum team planned out an artanis fake claim.


So we planned it now?

Come on man...

How is this not a blatant contradiction? He still thinks artanis fakeclaimed and yet is now going after someone he said couldn't be mafia with artanis. I'm not saying associative reads are good I'm pointing out that he didn't even think before throwing scum on me.

He said that ages ago. Are you claiming to remember details like that all the time while evaluating if individual players are scummy? Please FF...

The actual bad part about it is that Mig never claimed to have a rock solid scumread on either of us. He just thinks both of us are scummy individually which means there is no contradiction to begin with.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:44 GMT
#637
On June 07 2015 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
otherwise it shows a conscious effort on your part to partake in something that will make you look better and you realize it intrinsically so it is pretty null

I actually only self meta when I'm town because this is what town always thinks which means I only do it because I'm actually feeling it at the time. I'd argue it does make him slightly townier.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:48 GMT
#645
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:55 GMT
#651
On June 07 2015 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.

Yeah?

If you have reason not to lynch any of those people feel free to share:

fuba
boxer
slam
yamato
VA
FF

I think Yamato and Slam are both likely town. I don't find the arguments for Yamato being scum convincing, and Slam looks too cheerful to be scum. Fuba also at least seems to be trying when he's here. For Boxer and VA I've got nothing. I wouldn't mind either of them getting lynched either, but I think Chez is a slightly better lynch for he's said a bunch of things that he hasn't followed up on. The lack of followups even though he's returned a few times is what concerns me about him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 20:59 GMT
#654
On June 07 2015 05:57 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle

I think he's a very valid lynch today since there aren't really that many great candidates.

Yeah?

If you have reason not to lynch any of those people feel free to share:

fuba
boxer
slam
yamato
VA
FF

I think Yamato and Slam are both likely town. I don't find the arguments for Yamato being scum convincing, and Slam looks too cheerful to be scum. Fuba also at least seems to be trying when he's here. For Boxer and VA I've got nothing. I wouldn't mind either of them getting lynched either, but I think Chez is a slightly better lynch for he's said a bunch of things that he hasn't followed up on. The lack of followups even though he's returned a few times is what concerns me about him.


Can you please enlighten me how you do not find it convincing when the only reason you have stated that it is not convincing is because you felt similar yet that was only because you had extra information?

Because in a recent game I've played (forgot the name) there were 2 vigi claims with Vivax and Toad and I ended up believing both claims as well without any extra info there.

Though I suddenly realize that this didn't occur to me until after D1 when we lynched neither of them. Hmm.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 21:03 GMT
#657
On June 07 2015 05:59 Mig wrote:
What makes you think yam is town artanis?

3 page filter halfway into D1 on a slow game and defending me when I was a legitimate lynch.

Looking back though, I'm starting to have doubts on it. He did believe the claim quite fast, and in the end he didn't really try his hardest to prevent a lynch on me despite townreading me. He's also been kinda demotivated which is generally his scum play.

I guess I don't really townread him anymore reading his filter. There was something about the way he believed me that seemed very genuine though and I find difficult to imagine coming from scum yamato, and though I've rarely used I've noticed my feels do tend to be correct. He just really had the scenario pictured in his head and explained it well.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 21:15 GMT
#661
Boxer might actually be convincing me here. I'm uncertain if Yamato would truly be this bad as town. He's also conveniently afk when we're approaching deadline.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 21:21 GMT
#664
Ok fuck it
##Vote Yamato77
That's what you get for being the only person to defend me. I hope you'll learn your lesson for future games.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 21:26 GMT
#668
On June 07 2015 06:22 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Boxer might actually be convincing me here. I'm uncertain if Yamato would truly be this bad as town. He's also conveniently afk when we're approaching deadline.


If you weren't an uncounterclaimed jailkeeper I would be lyncing you tenfold. His post is exactly what I've already said and that which you have disagreed with and stated that opposite conclusion. Now you are agreeing with it??

He's quoted a bunch of posts and went into the content. Your post focussed on the claim thing only.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:10 GMT
#684
I'm here but I've got two poker hu matches going on at the same time.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:14 GMT
#690
On June 07 2015 07:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 07:09 NaCl`y wrote:
I'm here, albeit sporadically. I feel uneasy about boxerfred. Very uneasy and I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's because he seems to have sheeped all of my reads and made it look like his own? I'm not quite sure.

It's also a bit disconcerting that all of the people suddenly popped up, voted yamato and then afk'd again.

Yes, it is. I would think townyamato would at least bother to show up though.

This is what makes me pretty sure he's going to flip scum. I just can't imagine town yamato staying afk like this.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:17 GMT
#698
On June 07 2015 07:16 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 07:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 07 2015 07:09 NaCl`y wrote:
I'm here, albeit sporadically. I feel uneasy about boxerfred. Very uneasy and I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's because he seems to have sheeped all of my reads and made it look like his own? I'm not quite sure.

It's also a bit disconcerting that all of the people suddenly popped up, voted yamato and then afk'd again.

Yes, it is. I would think townyamato would at least bother to show up though.

This is what makes me pretty sure he's going to flip scum. I just can't imagine town yamato staying afk like this.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 07:11 NaCl`y wrote:
He said he was at work afaik.


I would imagine town yamato would find a way to post even at work.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:31 GMT
#721
Fecalfeast has rolled mafia? I must've been stuck in time.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:36 GMT
#725
On June 07 2015 07:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 07:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fecalfeast has rolled mafia? I must've been stuck in time.

That means you missed the glorious pooping champion incident.

This makes me sad.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:54 GMT
#736
On June 07 2015 07:52 marvellosity wrote:
Percent confidence anyone? for funsies

70?
Feels hard to measure in percentages.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:56 GMT
#742
If I'm the highest percent and he flips scum what do I win?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 22:58 GMT
#744
On June 07 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If I'm the highest percent and he flips scum what do I win?

I will call your play terrible one time less.

How about twice less?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 23:02 GMT
#754
Yay!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 23:03 GMT
#757
Thank you kindly.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 23:07 GMT
#762
So does this mean I'm confirmed town now?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 23:09 GMT
#764
On June 07 2015 08:07 NaCl`y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 08:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So does this mean I'm confirmed town now?


Not particularly. I thought your switch was one of the more scummy.

I mean because yamato slipped I was town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 23:11 GMT
#769
On June 07 2015 08:09 NaCl`y wrote:
I'm trying to make it so you don't get shot, play along.

But I like getting shot so I can forget about this game existing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 23:40 GMT
#790
On June 07 2015 08:38 boxerfred wrote:
Artanis, are you still claiming Jailor? Why did you hardclaim Jailor in the first place?

Nope, I'm unclaiming it.
Well documented.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 06 2015 23:46 GMT
#794
On June 07 2015 08:45 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 08:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 07 2015 08:38 boxerfred wrote:
Artanis, are you still claiming Jailor? Why did you hardclaim Jailor in the first place?

Nope, I'm unclaiming it.
Well documented.

Mind to re-elaborate?

I just decided "Yeah, jk's a cool role, let's claim it" and then everyone looked at me in a weird way and I was like wtf man? I just want to claim jailer. Then a bunch of people did weird things and then we lynched mafia so all is well.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 08:52 GMT
#816
Chez this game makes me really sad. So uninspired and subdued. What happened?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 21:41 GMT
#858
Hi. Did anything interesting happen?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 21:47 GMT
#862
On June 08 2015 06:44 marvellosity wrote:
not a lot.

I kinda knew that already as I'd read the last two pages but I was kinda trying to use it as a conversation starter.
Did you watch the RG finals?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 22:07 GMT
#868
Guys, I'm reclaiming jk.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 22:10 GMT
#871
I tried locking myself up but when I closed the door I noticed I forgot to install a lock to begin with.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 22:15 GMT
#873
I'll take over NaCl quoting duties if he dies tonight.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 22:17 GMT
#875
Actually the idea of making sentences just by quoting NaCl is quite enticing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 07 2015 22:53 GMT
#896
On June 08 2015 07:48 NaCl`y wrote:
I roleblocked fuba by the way.

If in some bizarre world I didn't get rbed, I jailed you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 15 2015 23:46 GMT
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