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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2015 05:44 GMT
#1121
I think the Shinings EoD stuff was towny. He voted LS to avoid no lynch but still continued to push Bill Murray. I think mafia Shining would have probably did it differently to gain more out of the lynch than he did. Which was nothing.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2015 05:45 GMT
#1122
On June 11 2015 14:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 13:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
I actually think the shining could be the missing link we are looking for

Something bothers me about the way that dude posts and it probably means he is scum.


Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 14:34 Tubesock wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:28 yamato77 wrote:
Don't talk about WBG anymore, it's just clogging the thread with incessant arguing.

If you're town, you should look into at least one other player and give a solid read. I know you think BM is town for whatever reason but what do you think about Shockey or The Shining?


ShoCkeyy I like a lot more than The Shining. I will be fine killing The Shining until he try hards like I have seen him before. He can make good cases and contribute. I give him a D1 pass since I believe he doesn't find D1's useful without deaths. Even now though I think he is underperforming what I expect of him as town.


Lmao you two would rather kill me than each other. So who gets blamed for the mislynch? And who looks worse since you'd both be voting with your scumreads?


You think I would rather kill you than Bugs? What?

Shining, when you turn your town light on, it's bright man. I've seen it at least twice.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 11 2015 05:50 GMT
#1123
Rofl this is so hilarious

Like yes mafia sure could get elected but why not just use the FREE UNSTOPPABLE KP to fucking kill the towniest people

Yamato I can see the dumb town perspective but this is too twisted man.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 11 2015 06:04 GMT
#1124
I'm just going to respond to posts as I read them because I'm annoyed and don't really care right now.

I didn't vote Kickstart for PR.

Yeah Shockeyy looks tons of awesome for saying Onegu is hiding this game and he's worried about him and votes him during a majority lynch by himself while not pushing it or giving any sort of proof as to why Onegu is scum.

Tube speaks in too many absolutes. BM is totes town. Bugs is scum, period. It's oddly unsettling. Couple it with being OK killing me and I'm prone to omgus. I'm not trying hard. I know I'm not trying hard. But I still know my alignment. And I've got one or two key towntells for me ppl who have played with me before should see. Even if not, w.e, I'm here.

My LS read. My very first comment on him is idk how to read him. I lynch him as town thinking he's scum. I leave him as scum and he ends up flipping through lynch or vig snot. I've correctly read him maybe once. So yeah, I was always going to be wishy washy on that. And I didn't want to lynch him because he was interacting and Tube made a good point about scumLS falling off. However, as we got closer to eod, it became blatantly obvious LS was giving us nothing and I wanted to avoid the no lynch. And if I'm scum and starting late, I don't think I enter the game late with a post saying idk how to read my scummate but I could lynch him. That's fucking stupid. But I've rolled scum all of 1 times so you never know, right?

OK Bugs you need to check my past games. Youve had time. What did you find? It's been almost two hours.

Bill is omgus but idc cuz he's still scum to me. Forced reaction? Yeah yours was longer and right at the flip, MUST have been authentic.

Bugs, I said he was policy WITH A GUT SCUM FEELING. I didn't say I was AGAINST a policy lynch. I even made a post asking why we would let any lurkers(see:Shockeyy) get away with anything in a setup like this. So obviously I voted to make him DO SOMETHING. He posted and oh look, I started rethinking my vote on him. To then show up 2 hours later to bus my scummate as the 6th vote right? I switched because GlowingFoot was yelling to switch to BM and he was my scumread. I realized no one was moving so I went back. How is this weird?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 11 2015 06:06 GMT
#1125
Tube you just said you'd be fine killing me. But you think my eod was towny. Wtf
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 11 2015 06:11 GMT
#1126
On June 11 2015 14:31 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 14:19 yamato77 wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:12 Tubesock wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:10 yamato77 wrote:
hm, maybe not

his mafia filter is actually pretty decent


huh?

I'm looking at your games to see how I should read you.

You seem quite capable as mafia. I'm at a crossroads. You're definitely in the possible mafia and I don't know if I believe that you believe what you're saying or not. You sure seem convinced, but that's probably not outside your ability at this level. And I don't think you're good enough as town yet to get away from this really poor tunnel of WBG. Outside of WBG, who could be mafia to you? There's at least one more.


I'm undecided on you, ShoCkeyy and The Shining. I don't think Batsnacks reads at all which makes me think of JoaT when I was certain he was mafia but turned out he was didn't care at all town. Onegu I think puts in more effort as scum.

You should never town me for my activity level, tunnelness, or belief. I believed every case I brought in my mafia game except the one on Breshke. And I am certain that if I was on a mafia team with Rsoultin (my scummate) and LightningStrike in this game we would bus the shit out of him. And we would do it just like Bugs is doing. Rsoultin would be the busser and I would be midlevel but vote LS. Guaranteed.


And this. You're so convinced and dead set on WBG but...every one of your other reads here is...meh. Undecided on 3 players. You don't give a read on bats, just some meta info. Same with Onegu. Please make crystal clear easily understandable reads, I'm bad at this game, treat me like it.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 11 2015 06:15 GMT
#1127
On June 11 2015 13:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why the fuck would a day 1 bus be that much greater than a day 2 bus AND a kp

99% of townies aren't going to be smart enough to go back to reread day 1 play if a mafia decides to no lynch on the premise of not having enough info day 1, then goes ahead and changes his mind day 2 to bus his useless teammate.

It literally makes no difference which day the bus occurs if mafia is looking for towncred. However in this setup there is a clear choice that makes sense and that's day 2 because you automatically forfeit a fucking KP.

If you're actually town and cannot understand how unfathomably bad that kind of decision would be and why it's a complete non possibility you deserve to die for having such consistently terrible opinions


This. Tone aside, this is a good post. Like even with an unmotivated scummer like LS, if scum was voting him, they could've tried to get off the lynch to save that bullet. It looks so damn obviously bad that Tube really tried over and over to save LS on the premise of if he's scum, he will get worse and we will catch him.

It's like he was setting himself up to bus LS after the bullet was used, then be able to say "see? I told you. Easy to catch after d1" and no one would question it.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 11 2015 06:19 GMT
#1128
And a general apology to the thread. I promised to step up activity at work (I play at work Weds-Sun) but I got shafted with a 16 hr shift and it ruined my mood and my day. I'm still here at work right now and decided night posting was better than not posting. It only gets better from here.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 11 2015 06:30 GMT
#1129
this is all really giving me pause on tube like what is he trying to achieve by pushing this bugs world as mafia. It is clear noone is going to agree with him. Maybe bill but they havn't even been conversing about it.

The game where tube played scum iirc he started pushing this paranoid world at the end but that was because his team was far ahead so therefore they had the space to do it. I don't know if he does that with a D1 scum lynch.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2015 06:40 GMT
#1130
On June 11 2015 15:11 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 14:31 Tubesock wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:19 yamato77 wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:12 Tubesock wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:10 yamato77 wrote:
hm, maybe not

his mafia filter is actually pretty decent


huh?

I'm looking at your games to see how I should read you.

You seem quite capable as mafia. I'm at a crossroads. You're definitely in the possible mafia and I don't know if I believe that you believe what you're saying or not. You sure seem convinced, but that's probably not outside your ability at this level. And I don't think you're good enough as town yet to get away from this really poor tunnel of WBG. Outside of WBG, who could be mafia to you? There's at least one more.


I'm undecided on you, ShoCkeyy and The Shining. I don't think Batsnacks reads at all which makes me think of JoaT when I was certain he was mafia but turned out he was didn't care at all town. Onegu I think puts in more effort as scum.

You should never town me for my activity level, tunnelness, or belief. I believed every case I brought in my mafia game except the one on Breshke. And I am certain that if I was on a mafia team with Rsoultin (my scummate) and LightningStrike in this game we would bus the shit out of him. And we would do it just like Bugs is doing. Rsoultin would be the busser and I would be midlevel but vote LS. Guaranteed.


And this. You're so convinced and dead set on WBG but...every one of your other reads here is...meh. Undecided on 3 players. You don't give a read on bats, just some meta info. Same with Onegu. Please make crystal clear easily understandable reads, I'm bad at this game, treat me like it.


On June 11 2015 15:04 The Shining wrote:

Tube speaks in too many absolutes. BM is totes town. Bugs is scum, period. It's oddly unsettling. Couple it with being OK killing me and I'm prone to omgus. I'm not trying hard. I know I'm not trying hard.


So, you admit that you aren't playing like your normal self, and are mad at me for saying so? I am currently rereading some filters of people I haven't been paying as much attention to (those I named that you call "meh" reads) and I saw towny EoD from you. I'm still thinking about everyone. The new day just started.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:46 GMT
#1131
On June 11 2015 14:31 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 14:19 yamato77 wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:12 Tubesock wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:10 yamato77 wrote:
hm, maybe not

his mafia filter is actually pretty decent


huh?

I'm looking at your games to see how I should read you.

You seem quite capable as mafia. I'm at a crossroads. You're definitely in the possible mafia and I don't know if I believe that you believe what you're saying or not. You sure seem convinced, but that's probably not outside your ability at this level. And I don't think you're good enough as town yet to get away from this really poor tunnel of WBG. Outside of WBG, who could be mafia to you? There's at least one more.


I'm undecided on you, ShoCkeyy and The Shining. I don't think Batsnacks reads at all which makes me think of JoaT when I was certain he was mafia but turned out he was didn't care at all town. Onegu I think puts in more effort as scum.

You should never town me for my activity level, tunnelness, or belief. I believed every case I brought in my mafia game except the one on Breshke. And I am certain that if I was on a mafia team with Rsoultin (my scummate) and LightningStrike in this game we would bus the shit out of him. And we would do it just like Bugs is doing. Rsoultin would be the busser and I would be midlevel but vote LS. Guaranteed.

I'm undecided? lol

As far as your tinfoil, again, just stop talking about WBG as literally no one besides you thinks he's mafia whatsoever and you're not going to convince anyone.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:49 GMT
#1132
On June 11 2015 15:30 Breshke wrote:
this is all really giving me pause on tube like what is he trying to achieve by pushing this bugs world as mafia. It is clear noone is going to agree with him. Maybe bill but they havn't even been conversing about it.

The game where tube played scum iirc he started pushing this paranoid world at the end but that was because his team was far ahead so therefore they had the space to do it. I don't know if he does that with a D1 scum lynch.

what other play does he really have?

I mean, there are only so many people you can feasibly call mafia in this game, lol.
Writer@WriterYamato
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 11 2015 06:53 GMT
#1133
No, I'm mad that you said you'd kill me for it, when Onegu and Shockeyy are also players under the radar and not playing how I've seen them play before. Inconsistency. And when have I ever been OK with being scummed or lynched as town? Like bugs brings me up as this "missing link" and now out of all the players, you're okay saying you would kill me. And you said that either after you read my filter and thought my EoD was towny so you want to kill someone with towny points, or before you read my filter, which is a very bold statement and horrible town play if you were willing to kill me before even reading.

So which was it?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:53 GMT
#1134
All that said, I'm becoming more and more weary of Shockey.

I do also wish Onegu would play this game but I've sort of just given him a free pass as I don't REALLY think he's scum too often when he plays like this.
Writer@WriterYamato
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2015 06:56 GMT
#1135
On June 11 2015 15:53 The Shining wrote:
No, I'm mad that you said you'd kill me for it, when Onegu and Shockeyy are also players under the radar and not playing how I've seen them play before. Inconsistency. And when have I ever been OK with being scummed or lynched as town? Like bugs brings me up as this "missing link" and now out of all the players, you're okay saying you would kill me. And you said that either after you read my filter and thought my EoD was towny so you want to kill someone with towny points, or before you read my filter, which is a very bold statement and horrible town play if you were willing to kill me before even reading.

So which was it?


That's totally fair.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:57 GMT
#1136
Is there really a world where Bill is town this game?

I struggle to think we have two mafia in tube/shockey/shining/onegu

I sorta have townreads on 2/4 and I waver on tube constantly

Shockey though is dropping fast. I worry.
Writer@WriterYamato
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
June 11 2015 06:57 GMT
#1137
And you conveniently quoted my post about me not trying hard but deleted the part where I mentioned my town tells. And they're more obvious now. Look at my d1s and d2s in past town games. You'll notice a few similarities, regardless of post size or activity level. I just don't want to meta myself.

Why did you delete that part off the quote? It makes it blatantly obvious that although I do not think I'm playing up to standard, I'm playing well enough and have done enough to feel my townread isn't terribly hard to those familiar with my meta. And you're one of those.

And as I'm typing that, my tinfoil went off. Yamato, why do you think I'm town? Do you still think I'm town? I remember you saying my arguments were bad so there's gotta be another reason for you TR me.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 06:59 GMT
#1138
On June 11 2015 15:57 The Shining wrote:
And you conveniently quoted my post about me not trying hard but deleted the part where I mentioned my town tells. And they're more obvious now. Look at my d1s and d2s in past town games. You'll notice a few similarities, regardless of post size or activity level. I just don't want to meta myself.

Why did you delete that part off the quote? It makes it blatantly obvious that although I do not think I'm playing up to standard, I'm playing well enough and have done enough to feel my townread isn't terribly hard to those familiar with my meta. And you're one of those.

And as I'm typing that, my tinfoil went off. Yamato, why do you think I'm town? Do you still think I'm town? I remember you saying my arguments were bad so there's gotta be another reason for you TR me.

I find your big posts rather genuine.

Sometimes you have weird "look at me I'm pro-town" moments but whatever, bugs apparently does that silly shit too.
Writer@WriterYamato
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 11 2015 07:05 GMT
#1139
On June 11 2015 14:45 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 14:39 The Shining wrote:
On June 11 2015 13:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
I actually think the shining could be the missing link we are looking for

Something bothers me about the way that dude posts and it probably means he is scum.


On June 11 2015 14:34 Tubesock wrote:
On June 11 2015 14:28 yamato77 wrote:
Don't talk about WBG anymore, it's just clogging the thread with incessant arguing.

If you're town, you should look into at least one other player and give a solid read. I know you think BM is town for whatever reason but what do you think about Shockey or The Shining?


ShoCkeyy I like a lot more than The Shining. I will be fine killing The Shining until he try hards like I have seen him before. He can make good cases and contribute. I give him a D1 pass since I believe he doesn't find D1's useful without deaths. Even now though I think he is underperforming what I expect of him as town.


Lmao you two would rather kill me than each other. So who gets blamed for the mislynch? And who looks worse since you'd both be voting with your scumreads?


You think I would rather kill you than Bugs? What?

Shining, when you turn your town light on, it's bright man. I've seen it at least twice.


For what it's worth, you're taking my comment harder than I intended. Of the ones I said, I can make excuses not to lynch them easier than you until these last few posts. When you motivate to turn your light on, it shines bright. And you weren't turned bright. Last time I read your filter I merely noted you didn't shine. This time, maybe my mood or something else or who knows I saw your EoD actions in a towny light and said so.

Yes, obviously I am bad town. If I were good I wouldn't be in the position I am currently in. You are not getting lynched today. Relax.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 11 2015 07:07 GMT
#1140
Tubesock why are you convinced Bill is town when literally everyone else thinks he's mafia?
Writer@WriterYamato
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