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On June 11 2015 13:13 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote:
Yes I think BM is totes town.
Why wouldn't the 3rd vote LS? I think the 3rd did. I don't think any of the non-LS voters were mafia. So...what's the question really? I'm not trying to sound like an ass but just making sure you know it is majority lynch? Clearly, I'm not really understanding your question haha. You asked if I thought the 3rd mafia player would vote LS. That the 3rd would also bus him. I think 3rd did. I think the 3 people (aside from LS) are town...I feel like I'm saying "YES" and you are reading kanji or something.
Okay so this game has majority voting instead of plurality which is normally used on this forum. That means there HAS to be a majority of alive people (yesterday it was 7) voting on a wagon for it to be through otherwise a no lynch occurs. This is why I ask if you realise it was majority voting because you say the two other mafia voted for LS which means they chose not to vote for the other wagons which in your world are both town. They didn't even have to lynch one of these other wagons they could have just got a no lynch.
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On June 11 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 13:13 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote:
Yes I think BM is totes town.
Why wouldn't the 3rd vote LS? I think the 3rd did. I don't think any of the non-LS voters were mafia. So...what's the question really? I'm not trying to sound like an ass but just making sure you know it is majority lynch? Clearly, I'm not really understanding your question haha. You asked if I thought the 3rd mafia player would vote LS. That the 3rd would also bus him. I think 3rd did. I think the 3 people (aside from LS) are town...I feel like I'm saying "YES" and you are reading kanji or something. Okay so this game has majority voting instead of plurality which is normally used on this forum. That means there HAS to be a majority of alive people (yesterday it was 7) voting on a wagon for it to be through otherwise a no lynch occurs. This is why I ask if you realise it was majority voting because you say the two other mafia voted for LS which means they chose not to vote for the other wagons which in your world are both town. They didn't even have to lynch one of these other wagons they could have just got a no lynch.
I understand it's a majority lynch and how that works.
So scenarios. The scum can either try to save a basically saveless LS (meaning later in the game) and later respond to heat for saving LS D1, they can just bus him and avoid suspicion altogether and possibly gain some town cred, or go for the no lynch and then receive heat for it. I don't think the resultant town chaos would be worth it.
That situation I think the smartest move is to be on LS. Course it's possible they weren't but I think that the decision to bus was made well in advance.
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Why the fuck would a day 1 bus be that much greater than a day 2 bus AND a kp
99% of townies aren't going to be smart enough to go back to reread day 1 play if a mafia decides to no lynch on the premise of not having enough info day 1, then goes ahead and changes his mind day 2 to bus his useless teammate.
It literally makes no difference which day the bus occurs if mafia is looking for towncred. However in this setup there is a clear choice that makes sense and that's day 2 because you automatically forfeit a fucking KP.
If you're actually town and cannot understand how unfathomably bad that kind of decision would be and why it's a complete non possibility you deserve to die for having such consistently terrible opinions
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Also as you yourself said it's a game of time, and a no lynch on day 1 fucks town over for a full 72 hours after day 1 ends. That's an incredible amount of time for the mere shift of a single vote or two
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On June 11 2015 13:32 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 13:13 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote:
Yes I think BM is totes town.
Why wouldn't the 3rd vote LS? I think the 3rd did. I don't think any of the non-LS voters were mafia. So...what's the question really? I'm not trying to sound like an ass but just making sure you know it is majority lynch? Clearly, I'm not really understanding your question haha. You asked if I thought the 3rd mafia player would vote LS. That the 3rd would also bus him. I think 3rd did. I think the 3 people (aside from LS) are town...I feel like I'm saying "YES" and you are reading kanji or something. Okay so this game has majority voting instead of plurality which is normally used on this forum. That means there HAS to be a majority of alive people (yesterday it was 7) voting on a wagon for it to be through otherwise a no lynch occurs. This is why I ask if you realise it was majority voting because you say the two other mafia voted for LS which means they chose not to vote for the other wagons which in your world are both town. They didn't even have to lynch one of these other wagons they could have just got a no lynch. I understand it's a majority lynch and how that works. So scenarios. The scum can either try to save a basically saveless LS (meaning later in the game) and later respond to heat for saving LS D1, they can just bus him and avoid suspicion altogether and possibly gain some town cred, or go for the no lynch and then receive heat for it. I don't think the resultant town chaos would be worth it. That situation I think the smartest move is to be on LS. Course it's possible they weren't but I think that the decision to bus was made well in advance.
I don't see how you can say LS was saveless when you didn't think he was mafia.
I feel like you believe what you are saying but none of it makes any sense..
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On June 11 2015 13:40 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 13:32 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 13:13 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote:
Yes I think BM is totes town.
Why wouldn't the 3rd vote LS? I think the 3rd did. I don't think any of the non-LS voters were mafia. So...what's the question really? I'm not trying to sound like an ass but just making sure you know it is majority lynch? Clearly, I'm not really understanding your question haha. You asked if I thought the 3rd mafia player would vote LS. That the 3rd would also bus him. I think 3rd did. I think the 3 people (aside from LS) are town...I feel like I'm saying "YES" and you are reading kanji or something. Okay so this game has majority voting instead of plurality which is normally used on this forum. That means there HAS to be a majority of alive people (yesterday it was 7) voting on a wagon for it to be through otherwise a no lynch occurs. This is why I ask if you realise it was majority voting because you say the two other mafia voted for LS which means they chose not to vote for the other wagons which in your world are both town. They didn't even have to lynch one of these other wagons they could have just got a no lynch. I understand it's a majority lynch and how that works. So scenarios. The scum can either try to save a basically saveless LS (meaning later in the game) and later respond to heat for saving LS D1, they can just bus him and avoid suspicion altogether and possibly gain some town cred, or go for the no lynch and then receive heat for it. I don't think the resultant town chaos would be worth it. That situation I think the smartest move is to be on LS. Course it's possible they weren't but I think that the decision to bus was made well in advance. I don't see how you can say LS was saveless when you didn't think he was mafia. I feel like you believe what you are saying but none of it makes any sense..
So, you think that mafiaLS isn't obvious mafia on D3? You think he can maintain his level of posting over the course of a couple days? I do not. The longer LS is alive the more and more scummy he appears to everyone. He maintains his town posting. Do you not agree with that? The longer he is alive as mafia this drastically lowers any towncred a bus offers.
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Chances are really good that mafia didn't have much time tocrealize what was going on and they couldn't save LS. They probably would have saved him if the wagon had started gaining momentum sooner
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On June 11 2015 13:47 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 13:40 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 13:32 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 13:13 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote:
Yes I think BM is totes town.
Why wouldn't the 3rd vote LS? I think the 3rd did. I don't think any of the non-LS voters were mafia. So...what's the question really? I'm not trying to sound like an ass but just making sure you know it is majority lynch? Clearly, I'm not really understanding your question haha. You asked if I thought the 3rd mafia player would vote LS. That the 3rd would also bus him. I think 3rd did. I think the 3 people (aside from LS) are town...I feel like I'm saying "YES" and you are reading kanji or something. Okay so this game has majority voting instead of plurality which is normally used on this forum. That means there HAS to be a majority of alive people (yesterday it was 7) voting on a wagon for it to be through otherwise a no lynch occurs. This is why I ask if you realise it was majority voting because you say the two other mafia voted for LS which means they chose not to vote for the other wagons which in your world are both town. They didn't even have to lynch one of these other wagons they could have just got a no lynch. I understand it's a majority lynch and how that works. So scenarios. The scum can either try to save a basically saveless LS (meaning later in the game) and later respond to heat for saving LS D1, they can just bus him and avoid suspicion altogether and possibly gain some town cred, or go for the no lynch and then receive heat for it. I don't think the resultant town chaos would be worth it. That situation I think the smartest move is to be on LS. Course it's possible they weren't but I think that the decision to bus was made well in advance. I don't see how you can say LS was saveless when you didn't think he was mafia. I feel like you believe what you are saying but none of it makes any sense.. So, you think that mafiaLS isn't obvious mafia on D3? You think he can maintain his level of posting over the course of a couple days? I do not. The longer LS is alive the more and more scummy he appears to everyone. He maintains his town posting. Do you not agree with that? The longer he is alive as mafia this drastically lowers any towncred a bus offers.
He doesn't need to survive till D3 he needs to survive ONE day phase. He uses his bullet then they don't care. Keeping his vigi shot is important. Right now even if they hit with their other one (if they havnt already missed) they don't make us lsoe a lynch they just make us not able to gain a lynch through a roleblock save vest or whatever. If they had LS shot they would have 2 extra KP which if both hit would give us one less misslynch.
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On June 11 2015 05:07 Kickstart wrote:
But to summarize I explained that if scum saw Bill on their team they just bus him regardless because it is only a matter of time before he gets lynched so you get free town cred. tubes I said was scummy before eod1 and you and bill looked the worst after the lynch. Don't see anything confusing in any of that. You reading me as being too enthusiastic or whatever is just you misreading me.
Weird that he thinks the same situation I do, but the names are different. He thinks that mafia is more likely to try to bus Bill Murray rather than LightningStrike. He thinks that Bill Murray becomes obvious mafia the longer he is alive. He thinks it's a team of Bill and FreezingFoot bussing instead of Bugs and LS. So clearly I am not the only moron in this game.
On June 11 2015 05:20 Kickstart wrote:
Well sure at the moment I'm not analyzing anything because I been up 30 hours and don't care too atm. But reads remain the same from earlier anyways. bill/foot/tube scummy.
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On June 11 2015 13:57 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 13:47 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:40 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 13:32 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 13:13 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On June 11 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote:
Yes I think BM is totes town.
Why wouldn't the 3rd vote LS? I think the 3rd did. I don't think any of the non-LS voters were mafia. So...what's the question really? I'm not trying to sound like an ass but just making sure you know it is majority lynch? Clearly, I'm not really understanding your question haha. You asked if I thought the 3rd mafia player would vote LS. That the 3rd would also bus him. I think 3rd did. I think the 3 people (aside from LS) are town...I feel like I'm saying "YES" and you are reading kanji or something. Okay so this game has majority voting instead of plurality which is normally used on this forum. That means there HAS to be a majority of alive people (yesterday it was 7) voting on a wagon for it to be through otherwise a no lynch occurs. This is why I ask if you realise it was majority voting because you say the two other mafia voted for LS which means they chose not to vote for the other wagons which in your world are both town. They didn't even have to lynch one of these other wagons they could have just got a no lynch. I understand it's a majority lynch and how that works. So scenarios. The scum can either try to save a basically saveless LS (meaning later in the game) and later respond to heat for saving LS D1, they can just bus him and avoid suspicion altogether and possibly gain some town cred, or go for the no lynch and then receive heat for it. I don't think the resultant town chaos would be worth it. That situation I think the smartest move is to be on LS. Course it's possible they weren't but I think that the decision to bus was made well in advance. I don't see how you can say LS was saveless when you didn't think he was mafia. I feel like you believe what you are saying but none of it makes any sense.. So, you think that mafiaLS isn't obvious mafia on D3? You think he can maintain his level of posting over the course of a couple days? I do not. The longer LS is alive the more and more scummy he appears to everyone. He maintains his town posting. Do you not agree with that? The longer he is alive as mafia this drastically lowers any towncred a bus offers. He doesn't need to survive till D3 he needs to survive ONE day phase. He uses his bullet then they don't care. Keeping his vigi shot is important. Right now even if they hit with their other one (if they havnt already missed) they don't make us lsoe a lynch they just make us not able to gain a lynch through a roleblock save vest or whatever. If they had LS shot they would have 2 extra KP which if both hit would give us one less misslynch.
Let's talk numbers. The hunter shot only kills blues. You are looking at it like town is smart enough and mafia is bad enough to not have a mafia elected. Then yes, that situation keeping the kp would be good.
If one of them gets elected, then the odds of hitting blue go to 2/9. If 2 get elected then it goes to 1/9. I don't think that it is so far fetched that we elected 2 mafia. JoaTs our ghost gave all the powers to mafia. I don't think that blue kp is that strong with those low odds. I am stupid but I value being essentially confirmed town over 1 kill.
You guys think Bugs is essentially confirmed town.
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Eh I think Tube is just wrong.
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hm, maybe not
his mafia filter is actually pretty decent
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On June 11 2015 14:10 yamato77 wrote:
hm, maybe not
his mafia filter is actually pretty decent
huh?
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On June 11 2015 14:12 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 14:10 yamato77 wrote:
hm, maybe not
his mafia filter is actually pretty decent huh?
I'm looking at your games to see how I should read you.
You seem quite capable as mafia. I'm at a crossroads. You're definitely in the possible mafia and I don't know if I believe that you believe what you're saying or not. You sure seem convinced, but that's probably not outside your ability at this level. And I don't think you're good enough as town yet to get away from this really poor tunnel of WBG. Outside of WBG, who could be mafia to you? There's at least one more.
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On June 11 2015 13:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Chances are really good that mafia didn't have much time tocrealize what was going on and they couldn't save LS. They probably would have saved him if the wagon had started gaining momentum sooner
To the thread. Think about how stupid this is.
Let's save a guy who as town maintains his level of weird posting but when he rolls mafia he drops off significantly and just during the one game there is a big noticeable difference in his play. AND he has said before that he doesn't like rolling mafia.
you are going to save a guy that is most likely going to flip and you really think people don't do vote count analysis? That they won't actually see and question anyone saving LS on D1? For one mediocre chance blue kp?
People IN THIS GAME are getting shit for how they voted and we killed mafia.
Damn I am so stupid.
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Don't talk about WBG anymore, it's just clogging the thread with incessant arguing.
If you're town, you should look into at least one other player and give a solid read. I know you think BM is town for whatever reason but what do you think about Shockey or The Shining?
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On June 11 2015 14:19 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 14:12 Tubesock wrote:On June 11 2015 14:10 yamato77 wrote:
hm, maybe not
his mafia filter is actually pretty decent huh? I'm looking at your games to see how I should read you. You seem quite capable as mafia. I'm at a crossroads. You're definitely in the possible mafia and I don't know if I believe that you believe what you're saying or not. You sure seem convinced, but that's probably not outside your ability at this level. And I don't think you're good enough as town yet to get away from this really poor tunnel of WBG. Outside of WBG, who could be mafia to you? There's at least one more.
I'm undecided on you, ShoCkeyy and The Shining. I don't think Batsnacks reads at all which makes me think of JoaT when I was certain he was mafia but turned out he was didn't care at all town. Onegu I think puts in more effort as scum.
You should never town me for my activity level, tunnelness, or belief. I believed every case I brought in my mafia game except the one on Breshke. And I am certain that if I was on a mafia team with Rsoultin (my scummate) and LightningStrike in this game we would bus the shit out of him. And we would do it just like Bugs is doing. Rsoultin would be the busser and I would be midlevel but vote LS. Guaranteed.
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On June 11 2015 14:28 yamato77 wrote:
Don't talk about WBG anymore, it's just clogging the thread with incessant arguing.
If you're town, you should look into at least one other player and give a solid read. I know you think BM is town for whatever reason but what do you think about Shockey or The Shining?
ShoCkeyy I like a lot more than The Shining. I will be fine killing The Shining until he try hards like I have seen him before. He can make good cases and contribute. I give him a D1 pass since I believe he doesn't find D1's useful without deaths. Even now though I think he is underperforming what I expect of him as town.
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On June 11 2015 13:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
I actually think the shining could be the missing link we are looking for
Something bothers me about the way that dude posts and it probably means he is scum.
On June 11 2015 14:34 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 14:28 yamato77 wrote:
Don't talk about WBG anymore, it's just clogging the thread with incessant arguing.
If you're town, you should look into at least one other player and give a solid read. I know you think BM is town for whatever reason but what do you think about Shockey or The Shining? ShoCkeyy I like a lot more than The Shining. I will be fine killing The Shining until he try hards like I have seen him before. He can make good cases and contribute. I give him a D1 pass since I believe he doesn't find D1's useful without deaths. Even now though I think he is underperforming what I expect of him as town.
Lmao you two would rather kill me than each other. So who gets blamed for the mislynch? And who looks worse since you'd both be voting with your scumreads? 
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