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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 01:04 GMT
#921
your "long post" full of one liners?
you need to quit spamming honestly
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 10 2015 01:08 GMT
#922
You, accusing someone of posting pointless things, how funny.
Thought I told you to concede alrdy scum?
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 10 2015 01:08 GMT
#923
And it doesn't take more than a few oneliners to sum you up. Watch me do it in one word:

useless
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:10 GMT
#924
just ignore BM dude
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 01:18 GMT
#925
On June 10 2015 09:47 Breshke wrote:
I'm actually not that much of a fan of morph. If scum shoots you and you don't die they just silver bullet you the next day. Actually I guess that gives us more blues next phase idk it is w/e

BM can you explain why you switched off of LS or direct me to a post where you explained it

i changed my vote because i fucked up


On June 10 2015 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:11 Kickstart wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:09 Bill Murray wrote:
i havent really done much to prove my innocence honestly

Indeed. While you have simultaneously done quite a few things that are scummy.
See your dilemma if you are town?


He had a pretty strong dumbtell at eod.

On June 10 2015 07:53 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:52 Kickstart wrote:
Obvious no, but I am still of the opinion you shouldn't tell who you voted to get powers. Of course you could be scum and just making shit up cause scum don't actually vote for ppl to get powers.

scum get a vote to pick powers too dude



stop using shit that's not alignment indicative to indicate things of alignment!

being dumb, aggressive, passive, lurky, active, none of these are alignment indicative by themselves. They paint a picture in context of other things. If BM is scum he himself knows he doesn't have a vote, and "acting dumb" is fucking easy. All he has to do is say that scum get a vote and some idiot townie will come along and say he's town because he doesn't know scum don't get votes.

I don't know why people fall into this trap over and over and over but it's exactly the reason that mafia players on this mafia only need to be 10% as good as townies to do anything remotely "amazing"

why do you try to discredit me in every single post you make about me?
if you're not saying "bm is scum" with 0 reasoning, you're trying to darken every towntell I make
there's no reason you shouldn't be seeing the light about why I'm a good guy this game

On June 10 2015 09:20 batsnacks wrote:
If my vote change at the last minute is irrelevant than why does it make me scummy?

Also my bat-senses are telling me that tube is mafia.

it doesn't; wbg likes to misrepresent people and be in the spotlight
it's not out of the realm of possibility he was bussing on D1
On June 10 2015 09:21 Breshke wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:03 Breshke wrote:
How is role block any better than blaspheme

If you RB the scum that doesn't send the kill you literally have no info the RB is only useful if it hits. Blaspheme at least gives the distinct answer if someone is or isn't the priest


what?

It may have no effect only if the RB hits the priest.

I don't think scum are ballsy enough to both deliver the KP and a silver bullet on the same player (if they choose to fire a silver bullet tonight). If they try to snipe a blue tonight they almost certainly will use both players to deliver KP, otherwise if the witch hunter gets RBed both of their KPs fail

I am 99% sure I play better scum than you and let me be frank when I say a DT check would not scare me in this setup nearly as much as an RB or a jailkeeper prot.


I'm 100% sure you play scum better than me no one was having a dick measuring contest but thanks for getting yours out to show

Silver bullet gets refunded if role blocked so it's not like they really lose that kp also if someone role locks someone and there is still one shown kill does that mean that person is mafia or maybe scum didn't use their silver bullet or missed with it. I think RB is good in best case scenario whereas blaspheme while shittier always provides info

glad someone else realizes he is spotlighting
it'd be nice to get a check on WBG tonight to clear up any potential big time plays he could be making

On June 10 2015 09:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:21 Breshke wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 10 2015 09:03 Breshke wrote:
How is role block any better than blaspheme

If you RB the scum that doesn't send the kill you literally have no info the RB is only useful if it hits. Blaspheme at least gives the distinct answer if someone is or isn't the priest


what?

It may have no effect only if the RB hits the priest.

I don't think scum are ballsy enough to both deliver the KP and a silver bullet on the same player (if they choose to fire a silver bullet tonight). If they try to snipe a blue tonight they almost certainly will use both players to deliver KP, otherwise if the witch hunter gets RBed both of their KPs fail

I am 99% sure I play better scum than you and let me be frank when I say a DT check would not scare me in this setup nearly as much as an RB or a jailkeeper prot.


I'm 100% sure you play scum better than me no one was having a dick measuring contest but thanks for getting yours out to show

Silver bullet gets refunded if role blocked so it's not like they really lose that kp also if someone role locks someone and there is still one shown kill does that mean that person is mafia or maybe scum didn't use their silver bullet or missed with it. I think RB is good in best case scenario whereas blaspheme while shittier always provides info


this is not a contest. I am a crap townie and I'm pretty decent at scum, which is why I am very confident in the situation I described to you, but I was not very confident in the end that LS would flip scum.

Even if the bullet gets refunded you are potentially keeping a townie alive for another cycle at least because a silver bullet during a half cycle results in a flip (if it is successful) at the end of said half cycle.

In other words if you RB the witch hunter successfully the target ends up living for the next day to push lynches with you. That's almost equivalent to saving them as a medic/JK. The only difference is that the RB can actually directly stop normal KP delivery, which in this game is incredibly useful because a JK on a good townie can actually prevent a blue usage.

Now of course saving that townie is more valuable than the blue usage but it's better to have more townies alive for longer than it is to rely on things like DT checks.

DT is only good in best case scenario. RB is good even in not so good scenario, simply because the number of scummers is so low. Remember a green DT check doesn't mean shit, it's only the red one that matters.

this statement in this post reiterates what im saying. WBG = bad town, WBG plays well D1, nabs scum WBG=scum

thats why i think he could have been bussing. he's basically confirming that suspicion.

I still have reason to townread him and I want to believe it but i'd like to scry him tonight to see what's shaken

On June 10 2015 09:32 Kickstart wrote:
Nice try.
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On June 10 2015 07:51 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
obviously your only choice is to take my opinion at face value, because I could certainly be under the effects of confirmation bias, especially since I knew his roles going into reading those posts. However I think the differences in tone, emotion, style, and specificity are enough for me to be confident that this is not his town game, even if he did get mislynched for what you think is a similar style. Sorry, but you're most likely just wrong.

A toneread is better than an overall metaread, wouldn't you agree, WBG?

On June 10 2015 07:50 Kickstart wrote:
Indeed I am.

it's okay. I was just rxn testing you. I don't think you're scum.

So which is it. Am I scum or not scum.

Also I don't put much trust in your "reads", nor should anyone else.
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On June 10 2015 04:35 Bill Murray wrote:
i know for a fact WBG is scum the way he acted
and if hes town its worthy of policy
but it's not what I know it's what I can convince you all to do with me
Super town:
Batsnacks
Yamato
Breshke
Tubesock

slight town:
Onegu
LightningStrike
Kickstart
Shockeyy

Scum:
WBG
FrozenFeet
Stutters

I may be forgetting someone from this list but this is where I'm at on this game

Your nice list post (which I almost always read as scummy- lost posts with nothing), was blatantly wrong on stutters and probably wbg, might be right on foot but I think you are bussing so whatever. Of course you were wrong on LS as well.
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On June 10 2015 07:30 Bill Murray wrote:
FF you only started calling me scum when i made a joke about your post being scumposting

but you are actually town so i understand why youre doing this

But then you are as wishy washy on FF as you are with everything else so. You are just keeping options opens and potential "outs" for yourself, scum play.
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On June 10 2015 07:39 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont think LS is mafia but self preservation is key

Wrong again.
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On June 10 2015 07:44 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:39 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 10 2015 03:27 FreezingFoot wrote:
No, really.
BM scumreads bugs with me
BM ignores the townie points I've brought on bugs
BM townreads Shockey out of NOTHING and wants to lynch coinflip stutters instead
BM scumreads me, who was scumreading bugs (his main scum read) out of a stupid association with STUTTERS.

Please. Vote this guy. It's ridiculous


I dont really scumread bugs, I was trying to get information
I have to ignore cases for/against him until he puts out more information. The spreadsheet was great, but he threatened to not play here anymore. I was hoping he came back because I really enjoy having someone like that in the town with me.
I townread shockeyy for a good reason. I have played with him more than anyone else has here so I am definitely the meta master when it comes to him. my meta on WBG, however, was contrived, as I don't have a reference to him playing scum. He has always been someone who has been hard for me to read except when he is blue and I nightkill him as mafia (which ive done numerous times because it's obvious to me when he has a power role [he lurks more than he is here], as opposed to how he is acting right now, as vanilla town who im voting to get a power tonight... i mean he could be a miller but thats still vanilla and i dont think millers are self aware this game)

I didnt ever scumread you. I said "^scumposting" as a joke; it wasn't even to get a reaction out of you. The association thing with stutters came afterwards and that is actually very serious. I could see you being scum if he is scum, unless he was trying to buddy you on a WBG lynch. If Stutters is mafia it clears WBG although WBG doesnt need clearing considering he made that awesome spreadsheet.

More wishywashiness on foot. Keeping your options open instead of committing; scum mentality.
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On June 10 2015 07:47 Bill Murray wrote:
I'd be a lot happier voting kickstart/a lurker than LS but I'm beginning to come around to this lynch considering WBG is so solid on it

I bet you would, scum.
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On June 10 2015 07:55 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway not gonna post for a bit because I need to draft up the night post for my own game.

pls no voteswitch

i'm not unvoting, but if he flips green, i'm voting you tomorrow

You aren't unvoting aye? Nice lies.
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On June 10 2015 07:59 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 10 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I just going to vote to save myself
##Unvote
Vote: Bill Murray

this is town play

No it isn't.
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On June 10 2015 07:59 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont want to voteswitch onto him i just dont want to lynch LS i dont think LS is scum

Said you wouldnt voteswitch did it anyways and the target you switched off of was scum.
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On June 10 2015 08:19 Bill Murray wrote:
ive had more towntells than anyone

wrong again
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On June 10 2015 08:52 Bill Murray wrote:
before this nightphase is over fully expect me to have a good case on someone

probably more lies.

Just concede already scum.

How is flip flopping scum behavior?
Scum have perfect knowledge of the game, something is wrong with this post
I said I'm not going to change my vote, and then changed my vote, so what?
Have you not ever bluffed before? It's not lying. Get over yourself.

On June 10 2015 10:08 Kickstart wrote:
You, accusing someone of posting pointless things, how funny.
Thought I told you to concede alrdy scum?

dude can you stop being a twit?
first off im not scum
second off if i was scum i wouldnt concede

On June 10 2015 10:08 Kickstart wrote:
And it doesn't take more than a few oneliners to sum you up. Watch me do it in one word:

useless

nice ad hominem
thats not scummy or anything

On June 10 2015 10:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
just ignore BM dude

you're so polite WBG i bet you're a hit at parties

oh wait with an attitude like that you're never invited
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:22 GMT
#926
btw FF I hope that lynch did not discourage you from posting. If you are town the last thing you should do is disappear at this time.

If you indeed don't spend this time talking to me, I'll have to list you as a scumread. If I die I hope the town is not dumb enough to let you go quietly. Partly the reason is because I won't be around ~3 hours before lynch, because I will be boarding a plane. Indeed, I probably won't be around after the lynch either so the next ~6 hours or so and maybe early morning tomorrow is the best time for me to get as much information out of every player to provide the best I can before my time in the game ends.

So, let's talk. Convince me why you're not scum. Convince me of your best two reads right now. I know you think BM is mafia, you've argued that point through and through. Let's assume BM is either dead or town. Who else would you pick? I want reasons. I also want specifics and the details behind your thought process.

Lastly, since I think this would be very useful, I want you to claim your identity so I can read your past games. If any of you disagree that meta would be useful in this situation, please go ahead and reread my case on LS, and tell me exactly why a smurf FF in this situation would be doing us a favor by not telling us his identity. My comparisons between LS's countless town games and his really mediocre mafia play was a significant driving force behind my confidence in the lynch, and I would expect that a town smurf would understand the implications of having more information on the table.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 10 2015 01:23 GMT
#927
it annoys me that you put more effort into replying to posts from people saying to ignore you than ones where im actually trying to work out your allighnment.

How did you fuck up and why did it make you switch your vote?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:27 GMT
#928
I think the idea that I would attack my own scum teammate who received 0 suspicion before I started attacking him, proceed to ragequit because no one fucking agreed with me for half the day, and then come back to go ahead and put in huge amounts of effort to stop town from fucking lynching someone who was going to get modkilled anyway over the now known scum flip is honestly laughable

Bussing is not a good mafia strategy, it's a fucking sign of weakness. You don't kill your own teammates unless you absolutely have to, and anyone who thinks it's a good idea to bus their teammates out of the blue clearly doesn't know how to play scum
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:29 GMT
#929
yamato can you explain the tube read to me
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 10 2015 01:43 GMT
#930
Defended LS for bad reasons and just generally wasn't doing much else
Writer@WriterYamato
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:50 GMT
#931
oookay...

you're not giving me much here. anything else?

I think you're town but I need you to help me erase this niggling feeling that I am wrong about that read
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 10 2015 01:52 GMT
#932
I don't really need to do anything

Read his fucking filter and decide for yourself if you don't understand what I'm saying
Writer@WriterYamato
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:54 GMT
#933
cool, I think that deserves a demotion
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 10 2015 01:55 GMT
#934
On June 10 2015 02:28 Tubesock wrote:
I'm not voting LS today. MafiaLS as time goes by gets more and more obvious. Most of you know this.

I want to lynch Bugs make no mistake about it.

IF we are going to policy lynch I'll possibly vote for Onegu, Shockey or Stutters. I've already said why on Onegu, I'd prefer Stutters over Shock simply if we are doing a policy then might as well do the lurkiest.

@BM I think it doesn't benefit town as much if a player with a strong town rep wants to smurf and play lazy. Other than they will survive (OH MY GOD I MUST KNOW FOOT IS A HYDRA!!!!) night 1. Course I kinda think that they won't be able to help themselves and still solve the game D2/3 which is also good for town.

Anyway, off to work but will be checking in periodically.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 10 2015 01:56 GMT
#935
On June 10 2015 10:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
cool, I think that deserves a demotion

so you're the fuck who didn't vote for me

zzz bugs plz
Writer@WriterYamato
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 10 2015 01:57 GMT
#936
On June 10 2015 09:20 yamato77 wrote:
tube probably is mafia lol

his LS read was shit


I don't understand why everyone is so against each other when a few of us clearly know who town is, but yet ignoring this. Tube is probably mafia, his LS read was shit. Also Foot's answer to my question was shit too.
Life?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:57 GMT
#937
yamato if I could've voted you 3 times I would've
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 10 2015 01:59 GMT
#938
btw yamato say that tube is scum

who are the other 2
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 10 2015 02:00 GMT
#939
On June 10 2015 10:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On June 10 2015 09:20 yamato77 wrote:
tube probably is mafia lol

his LS read was shit


I don't understand why everyone is so against each other when a few of us clearly know who town is, but yet ignoring this. Tube is probably mafia, his LS read was shit. Also Foot's answer to my question was shit too.

yeah it's pretty baffling how rude some people have been to me this game
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 10 2015 02:01 GMT
#940
Thought tube was scummy from start. Still foot/bill look worse than him after day1, but tube still looks scummy too.
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