EPT[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 77
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Fidei86
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scott31337
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On June 06 2015 19:36 Onegu wrote: Onegu rule applies to him also. I am down. But really the S named dude who replaced in is 100% mafia or Im not VT. I am VT. Interesting... | ||
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Damdred
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Its an interesting night kill, I was halfway expecting it to be VE or scott. I'm not sure what to do quite yet, i'm debating if i'm just wrong on everything and need to look at everyone again or if i'm right and mafia just thinks today is the lynch damdred day. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 04 2015 23:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Here's where I'm sitting currently: Town: ritoky scott Nydus Kickstart Fidei Ticktock Won't Lynch Today / I WANNA say town, but I just can't yet for some reason: Damdred Onegu People I'd probably lynch in spite of them probably being spewed town: sicklucker People I'm looking at filters right now to decide if I think they are the lynch today instead of Chocolate: GGTemplar People I'd lynch remorselessly: Chocolate milo People I'll worry about later: Everyone else. VE, this is the only time you mention Fidei in your filter, How do you feel about him now? Can you give another reads list? | ||
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Damdred
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Its interesting but i'm nto sure if its important yet. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
I just re-read Damdred's filter, and it's honestly just a mess. Strategically, I hate it. He pussy-foots around, alluding to reads and making hyperbolic comments. His read on KS was totally wrong, obviously. He was apparently less sure on GGT, but still voted for him over TT. But as I'm reading his posts, I keep getting this annoying feeling that he's actually being genuine. His posts seem like honest reactions to events, even if he could really use to get his anger/emotions under control. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
So most reads over the course of a game is wrong. That's part of mafia. Yeah but I ended up thinking TT was town, and said so multiple times. I am genuine I'm not sure what this means, overall I've been pretty in control. I told scott what I thought especially since hes watched a lot of the games I've been in and knows that my meta is drastically different than what he has shown. | ||
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Fidei86
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Fidei86
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The thing is though, I'm not entirely sure it's a bad thing. Hell, I have literally no clue what's going on. If I'm coming across middle of the road, it's because this is a genuinely creepy experience. I'm just staring at the list of names, hoping that some will jump out at me, but they aren't. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
If you look at the first pages of almost everyones filter you will see mostly soft reads due to the non information that has started in games. My biggest read was Ritoky early. I have a way to 100% read ritoky most of the time tbh. So I held back to make sure I was right and gave it. I also had good feelings about several other people. People give town reads early as hunting into your non town reads is just as good as hunting into scummy people for others. Its just a preference. Just don't get why so many people are trying to scum read me for it however. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2015 07:00 Fidei86 wrote: One crazy thought I just had is that the scum team is VE, Damdred and Chocolate, and VE and Damdred have been trying to bus Chocolate all game, but the town keep screwing it up and voting for townies. ROFL I laughed so hard because this could totally fit. I'm dying here | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
I obviously know I'm town. Ritoky believed milo was town too, and actually so did you during the early part of the game. Even if you're right on NHM and Chocolate, that still only leaves two. You don't seem to have accounted for the possibility that someone is playing a great game here. I don't think that if you, TT, VE, ritoky, scott and Onegu were all town, you'd be losing to a team of me (first game), Chocolate (18 y/o who has been barely active), NHM (who has been quasi-lurky) and/or milo (who mostly everyone has or had as town). I recognise I'm utterly rubbish at this game (or I'm brilliant and TT/Scott are evil geniuses), but if all those good players were lined up against all us terrible players, I don't see how that ends up at this point. | ||
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Damdred
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Well this isn't a perfect world, people in the game haven't acted that towny at points. Myself included in that, as I know that I haven't been 100% towny this game. Also you've just answered your own somewhat accusation of me having people 100% town. Obviously I don't if over a period of 24 hours I start relooking at milo and decide maybe he isn't as lock town as I had him even in the previous phase. Scott I had super high up as town and now hes middlish of the pack. Tick I am really sure is town, and i'd probably be really happy if hes scum and beat me. So no I don't think I am 100% sure that I think everyone is town xcept for four people. I think onegs town I guess but I wouldn't want to take him to lylo either (shrug). Anyway before I got side track, sometimes town destroys town with the inability to get around tunnels, to not re evaluate the game. And sometimes town just acts dumb even against horrible scum teams. Granted I havent' been perfect i'd rather just figure this out then be terrible and shout at the same person for hours they are scum.. | ||
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Damdred
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Its frustrating and if neither are scum its really unfortunate town would act that way. However its not out of the realm of possibility. VE could be playing a decent scum game, there are points in which you could say hes not going about it with a towny mindset, could be. but hes looked towny at other points. Soooo obviously i'm not voting myself and you and milo say we cant lynch into x players. who would you want me to look at lynching, convince me | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On June 09 2015 07:22 Damdred wrote: + Show Spoiler + Basically what you are suggesting is that in a perfect world a horrible mafia team would self destruct against a good town. Well this isn't a perfect world, people in the game haven't acted that towny at points. Myself included in that, as I know that I haven't been 100% towny this game. Also you've just answered your own somewhat accusation of me having people 100% town. Obviously I don't if over a period of 24 hours I start relooking at milo and decide maybe he isn't as lock town as I had him even in the previous phase. Scott I had super high up as town and now hes middlish of the pack. Tick I am really sure is town, and i'd probably be really happy if hes scum and beat me. So no I don't think I am 100% sure that I think everyone is town xcept for four people. I think onegs town I guess but I wouldn't want to take him to lylo either (shrug). + Show Spoiler + Anyway before I got side track, sometimes town destroys town with the inability to get around tunnels, to not re evaluate the game. And sometimes town just acts dumb even against horrible scum teams. Granted I havent' been perfect i'd rather just figure this out then be terrible and shout at the same person for hours they are scum.. Well if we lynch town again today tomorrow will be lylo - Do you want to lynch Onegu? | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
I've already said the reasons why I'm suspicious of TT and scott. I think that an Onegu, TT, scott lineup would look pretty reasonable. The only reason I mention scott and Onegu together is that it seems to me the only reason we haven't lynched Onegu is that scott mentioned that this is Onegu's "town" meta. Which is a bullshit reason, because a player as experienced as I assume Onegu is (given he is running his own game) would be perfectly capable of acting in the way he has, town or scum. Hell, it's hardly challenging to troll for an entire day, then to show up and say we should vote for Damdred because of some stupid meta rule which sounds to me like it worked one time. | ||
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Damdred
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We have to lynch the scummiest person today obviously, do I think that's oneg I don't, but we should talk about everyone. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
I also don't know whether to read anything into the fact that after both mis-lynches, TT has come out and said "well, I guess they were just bad town". I've never been mafia, so I don't know what that's like, but as town mislynching feels like the worst shit in the world. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
And not sure what you mean by nothing sticks? I don't think a lot of the things said against him have been valid when compared to his gameplay I suppose? Is tt the one you really want to lynch today (besides me obviously) | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
Town: milo Null: Chocolate, NHM, VE, Damdred Mafia: Scott, TT Policy: Onegu I recognise that's very "middle of the road" of me, I'm just struggling. | ||
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