EPT[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 20
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Damdred
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On June 03 2015 08:50 VisceraEyes wrote: @Chocolate Yeah I don't expect anyone to be on all the time. My point has very little to do with your lack of activity and everything to do with the way you framed your absence. But whatever, it's a minor thing and something I'm willing to overlook for the time being. You say you're caught up now, but that your only actual suspicion is Kickstart from what I can see - and it's for posting with too much authority? And scott, for agreeing with Kickstart? Is this accurate? More than just that. I think he's trying to guide the discussion in a direction he wants to a high degree. He has also been quick to move around which makes sense but I generally don't really like a ton Those aren't my only suspicions, they're just ones I was comfortable posting for the time being I'd like to know your thoughts on other people too though | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On June 03 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote: And where are you at again in reads ks? I also would like to know this | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
If you are asking for my strongest leaning I would still say milo is my strongest scum read, though I have thoughts on a few others I intend to reveal a bit later. I want to see if they post more before they know I am suspicious of them. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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milo109
466 Posts
My top mafia at the moment is indeed Kickstart. I didn't mind his opening, as I can see it happening from a dedicated town perspective. I don't mind his questioning of me. My problems start here: On June 03 2015 07:01 Kickstart wrote: Unfortunatly milo this again makes no sense to me, you say you are not comfortable reading people scummy yet throw a vote on him because you just said you don't think (or you aren't convinced) that he is town, which means you DID in fact read him as scummy. But an even bigger issue than that for me is that that is not what you said when you threw down the vote, you threw down the vote because you didn't like his posting, and as I said, you had no way of knowing if this was his usual posting and thus the vote was NOT a vote on who you thought was scummy, even though now you seem to be trying to indicate that it was. I do not like your actions and I do not find this explanation from you satisfactory. ##Vote: milo109 While I am happy be proven wrong in my logic, this seems to be an inept attempt to bury me. First of all, me saying "I'm not convinced that ritoky is town" is -not- an attempt to call him scummy. I'm calling him Null. I also stated beforehand that was -not- why I was voting him. His bigger problem was that I was trying to indicate my vote was "was NOT a vote on who you thought was scummy," while every post I've made conceded this point. Then we come to this post. On June 03 2015 07:02 Kickstart wrote: Seems people are already on milos ass for this before I could throw that post together, just keep in mind I raised the initial concern and it took me some time to write my last post, I don't want to be accused of hoping on the milo wagon! This seems to be a mafia perspective. He was the second one to indicate a dislike of my posts. Why was he so paranoid that he would be accused of bandwagoning? He responds to this with: On June 03 2015 07:09 Kickstart wrote: Because from my limited experience on here, hoping on a wagon is the ultimate sin. But I guess you are right, I did do it with ample justification and pressure beforehand. Not everything has to be original. You're allowed to agree with people. If you're more afraid of being seen as hopping on a wagon than lynching mafia, you're not playing right as town. I can't tell if he didn't read my responses or is just trying to bury here: On June 03 2015 07:27 Kickstart wrote: Like ritocky I see many contradictions, some of which I just pointed out. But you just made the same contradiction by saying you don't think he is necessarily mafia for voting on you, yet that seems to be exactly why you've thrown a scum read on me. I clearly stated why I didn't like Kickstart's vote, and why I was fine with ritocky's. In summation: I've already taken too much time on this, so I'll wait for a further analysis of his later posts until later. I dislike the way he attacked me. I'm privy to the information that I'm town, and that helps put all this in perspective. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Kick is leaning scum to me atm. His whole prepared post right off the bat, into being rather diplomatic and trying to appeas everyone is rubbing me the wrong way atm. I'd be full on scumming him but he did make this post that I really like. On June 03 2015 08:53 Kickstart wrote: I want reads, whether they are strong or not is secondary. I even specified that I just wanted stuff to work with so I don't expect ironclad cases or anything, I just want stuff to work with. And while you may think a lot of things are null, I think there is plenty to work with for people to at least give opinions. Asking for reads and reasoning is always a good thing to do. It's also an easy thing for scum to do though.. so he still stays a scum lean for now. I have to admit VE is blowing me away with his townyness thus far. I loved his points against chocolate, I was a bit weirded out by his first post about me, but looking at them again from a scum perspective make sense. Idk if that's enough to scum chocolate though, everyone tends to do odd stuff D1 to throw out pressure which is what I assumed he was doing. Him dropping that pressure though... far more scummy. Need to see more from milo, not sure how video mafia works. Seems to me he'd appreciate the graphics from ritoky if that's what he's used to... + Show Spoiler + Lol I know that's a silly point, clearly video mafia is more about body language tells. Though I'd like to hear more about it at some point. Prob not relevant to this game though. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
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milo109
466 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 03 2015 09:13 milo109 wrote: I was asked to make a longer post about my top scum, and I did so. Obviously we seem to be facing off. I'm happy to talk about my other scum reads as well. If your so happy to discuss them, then discuss them. We're only going to scum you for holding them back. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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milo109
466 Posts
I don't like VE. He's obviously a strong player, and I don't think he's contributed as many reads as he should have. Sicklucker is an another possibility, but with people who still haven't posted, I don't think I need to find a third scum yet. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On June 03 2015 09:22 milo109 wrote: Sure. I don't like VE. He's obviously a strong player, and I don't think he's contributed as many reads as he should have. Sicklucker is an another possibility, but with people who still haven't posted, I don't think I need to find a third scum yet. LAWL Get voted scruuuuhhhhh | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
What is your opinion of SL? Both in this game and in general? I ask kus I'm reading you as town atm, and I might need to fall back on someones reading on him if I start to tunnel him. I've fallen into that trap my first 2 games with SL. | ||
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milo109
466 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
It showed good thought process and limited reasoning and makes sense. I don't see a newbie Scum going through that sort of thing. He's town just leave him,be for now. However I don't think what he said makes ks Scum. I think,there are good reasons to,suck,read him bit reverent touched on. And nope not that he's to pushy or in charge those are bad points lol. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On June 03 2015 09:22 Tictock wrote: @ VE What is your opinion of SL? Both in this game and in general? I ask kus I'm reading you as town atm, and I might need to fall back on someones reading on him if I start to tunnel him. I've fallen into that trap my first 2 games with SL. I'll be no help - sicklucker has a style that I have an inherently bad time reading (lurky). I've incorrectly read him in every game I've played with him. Although it's worth pointing out that with statistics like that, you can almost FLIP my read of him and get accurate results. :O | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I see you doing a lot of defending and town reading so far this game. Any scum reads you have to share? | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
Ritoky is bad and knows it, SL gives everyone headaches. The rest of you DONT KNOW WHO THE FUCK I AM. I AM ONEGU LEARN IT!!!! KNOW IT!!! VE is scum trying to make someone look bad for saying someone is AFK comeon man. Ritoky prolly town for doing the GIF thing since his last gif game was scum. Rest of you I need more time. Oh here is my claim... I am shitty ass VT. | ||
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