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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 02 2015 23:26 GMT
#361
EBWOP:

See milo doesn't know which point you meant either LOL ^^
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 02 2015 23:26 GMT
#362
On June 03 2015 08:25 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:20 milo109 wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:14 milo109 wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:09 milo109 wrote:
Now that I have a second to evaluate the game without immediate fear of being lynched...

I don't think that Chocolate is necessarily mafia for his one post. It's possible he had to go, and he was basing his read on Tiktok off of two posts. It seems a fine opener. Not sure if I like VE attempting to turn attention to someone unable to defend himself.

Nydus is my white knight, and I'm sure that will skew my opinion of him but he seems town just from the irreverent way he gave his reads.

I still don't like Kickstarter. I didn't like the tone of his accusation, and the way he quickly attempted to insure he wasn't thought of 'bandwagoning on me' as if he knew I would flip town.

Now just how do you know that he's unable to defend himself? In fact, he's already responded to my point so that makes the bolded completely irrelevant anyway.


He didn't seem to be online, thought that has obviously changed. It is easy to accuse someone who can't respond to your points until later.

Yeah that's not how it works in forum mafia. At least, that's not how I play it. I play the game as if everyone is here all the time (regardless of whether it's true or not) because there's no way to be online all the time - so chances are I'm going to miss people when I'M online. Therefor it doesn't make any sense to wait to accuse someone until they're IN the thread because I MIGHT NOT BE IN THE THREAD THEN. Savvy?


Hadn't thought of it that way. You're correct. I still don't think you had a reason to call him mafia, but I was wrong about diverting.

Well you're wrong about that too. My reasoning is explicit. Whether you think it's a good reason or not is up for debate, but you can't just say "you don't have a reason" when I gave my reason explicitly.

Again you are correct. Apologies. I don't agree with your reason.

YAY AND NOW WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE!!!!

COOPERATION!!!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 02 2015 23:27 GMT
#363
On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


This is the promise, having an excuse to lurk under the guise of,doing things is breaking the promise of,doing,things.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 02 2015 23:28 GMT
#364
On June 03 2015 08:27 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


This is the promise, having an excuse to lurk under the guise of,doing things is breaking the promise of,doing,things.

^

I asked him if he'd fulfilled this promise. Jury's still out, though he claims to be catching up.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 02 2015 23:29 GMT
#365
Oh. Yes. That point makes sense.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 02 2015 23:32 GMT
#366
On June 03 2015 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now

This is fine, and I'm in no position to dispute it's validity - but I will say that you SAID you were going to check something out, not that you were grabbing dinner. DID you go check to see if you'd played with anyone else?

Yeah I just checked, didn't find anything. I have one mafia and one town game from the very early newbie mini mafia days

Also if you're going to get on me for not being on all the time, you're going to have a bad time. I'm going to try to post as much as possible when I'm able but it's unreasonable to expect me to drop other things I'm doing (I'm on vacation atm) for a forum mafia game
On June 03 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now


what discussion were you hoping to stir with that comment?

anything really, I stand by my initial gut feeling that trying to seem overly "town-friendly" without adding content is scummy. Obviously I had very little to work with though. I don't really have a strong read either way on him either way atm

Right now I'd say Kickstart stands out to me as suspicious. Same with scott though obviously with much less to base it on. I don't like how VE is tunneling me but I don't think it's an inherently scum thing to do
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 02 2015 23:33 GMT
#367
On June 03 2015 08:32 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now

This is fine, and I'm in no position to dispute it's validity - but I will say that you SAID you were going to check something out, not that you were grabbing dinner. DID you go check to see if you'd played with anyone else?

Yeah I just checked, didn't find anything. I have one mafia and one town game from the very early newbie mini mafia days

Also if you're going to get on me for not being on all the time, you're going to have a bad time. I'm going to try to post as much as possible when I'm able but it's unreasonable to expect me to drop other things I'm doing (I'm on vacation atm) for a forum mafia game
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now


what discussion were you hoping to stir with that comment?

anything really, I stand by my initial gut feeling that trying to seem overly "town-friendly" without adding content is scummy. Obviously I had very little to work with though. I don't really have a strong read either way on him either way atm

Right now I'd say Kickstart stands out to me as suspicious. Same with scott though obviously with much less to base it on. I don't like how VE is tunneling me but I don't think it's an inherently scum thing to do


What specifically about scott's play thus far has made him suspicious to you?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 02 2015 23:35 GMT
#368
On June 03 2015 08:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:32 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now

This is fine, and I'm in no position to dispute it's validity - but I will say that you SAID you were going to check something out, not that you were grabbing dinner. DID you go check to see if you'd played with anyone else?

Yeah I just checked, didn't find anything. I have one mafia and one town game from the very early newbie mini mafia days

Also if you're going to get on me for not being on all the time, you're going to have a bad time. I'm going to try to post as much as possible when I'm able but it's unreasonable to expect me to drop other things I'm doing (I'm on vacation atm) for a forum mafia game
On June 03 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now


what discussion were you hoping to stir with that comment?

anything really, I stand by my initial gut feeling that trying to seem overly "town-friendly" without adding content is scummy. Obviously I had very little to work with though. I don't really have a strong read either way on him either way atm

Right now I'd say Kickstart stands out to me as suspicious. Same with scott though obviously with much less to base it on. I don't like how VE is tunneling me but I don't think it's an inherently scum thing to do


What specifically about scott's play thus far has made him suspicious to you?

Just him siding with kickstarter. his posts don't reveal much at all so far. however, I think due to the low content and neutrality of his posts that he may be playing the lurker role which tends to be one that scum takes
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 02 2015 23:36 GMT
#369
@milo can you give me a detailed paragraph or two who or whom is the most scummy right now and why? maybe some quotes too. would like to see you doing something other than defending.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 02 2015 23:38 GMT
#370
@milo I still think it's a strange thing to say, and also a strange thing to think, especially as the game was only a couple of pages old and most people hadn't even posted by that stage. Still, I can understand why someone might say it out of frustration rather than any ulterior motive.

Just a note, I'm heading to bed now (it's past midnight). I'll catch up on posts in a couple of hours when I wake up. Apologies for not having more to say from the get-go, this is my first game and I'm having trouble just keeping up with all the back-and-forth, let alone getting enough to get any good reads on people.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 02 2015 23:38 GMT
#371
After reading his past town game I am less sure of my read because he didn't post much then either

However I still don't like KS. He seems to be posting too bossily and with too much authority for a normal day 1 poster
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 02 2015 23:39 GMT
#372
On June 03 2015 08:35 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:33 ritoky wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:32 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now

This is fine, and I'm in no position to dispute it's validity - but I will say that you SAID you were going to check something out, not that you were grabbing dinner. DID you go check to see if you'd played with anyone else?

Yeah I just checked, didn't find anything. I have one mafia and one town game from the very early newbie mini mafia days

Also if you're going to get on me for not being on all the time, you're going to have a bad time. I'm going to try to post as much as possible when I'm able but it's unreasonable to expect me to drop other things I'm doing (I'm on vacation atm) for a forum mafia game
On June 03 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now


what discussion were you hoping to stir with that comment?

anything really, I stand by my initial gut feeling that trying to seem overly "town-friendly" without adding content is scummy. Obviously I had very little to work with though. I don't really have a strong read either way on him either way atm

Right now I'd say Kickstart stands out to me as suspicious. Same with scott though obviously with much less to base it on. I don't like how VE is tunneling me but I don't think it's an inherently scum thing to do


What specifically about scott's play thus far has made him suspicious to you?

Just him siding with kickstarter. his posts don't reveal much at all so far. however, I think due to the low content and neutrality of his posts that he may be playing the lurker role which tends to be one that scum takes


So it is purely associative? Do you think him going back and looking through my database of games is alignment indicative?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 02 2015 23:44 GMT
#373
On June 03 2015 08:38 Fidei86 wrote:
@milo I still think it's a strange thing to say, and also a strange thing to think, especially as the game was only a couple of pages old and most people hadn't even posted by that stage. Still, I can understand why someone might say it out of frustration rather than any ulterior motive.

Just a note, I'm heading to bed now (it's past midnight). I'll catch up on posts in a couple of hours when I wake up. Apologies for not having more to say from the get-go, this is my first game and I'm having trouble just keeping up with all the back-and-forth, let alone getting enough to get any good reads on people.

Fair enough, when you wake and have time to read through, may I ask that you give some reads, regardless of whether or not you think they are 'good reads' . As I said at the very beginning, don't be afraid to post because of being new, giving information for town to work with both helps town get a read on you and makes you an active part of the town. So yeah, just whenever you get up can you give some specific reads on whomever you can.

I would also like to get some specific town/scum reads from people who haven't given any at this point because I feel that there is a decent amount of stuff to work with. Again, whether you think your reads are iron clad reads isn't relevant, I would rather you give us something to work with than nothing at all.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 02 2015 23:47 GMT
#374
I'm curious why you want so many strong reads from people so early when a lot of thing a are just pure null. He'll I only have 1 really town read, one lean some nulls that are almost leans and one scummy feeling.

Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 02 2015 23:48 GMT
#375
On June 03 2015 08:39 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:35 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:33 ritoky wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:32 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now

This is fine, and I'm in no position to dispute it's validity - but I will say that you SAID you were going to check something out, not that you were grabbing dinner. DID you go check to see if you'd played with anyone else?

Yeah I just checked, didn't find anything. I have one mafia and one town game from the very early newbie mini mafia days

Also if you're going to get on me for not being on all the time, you're going to have a bad time. I'm going to try to post as much as possible when I'm able but it's unreasonable to expect me to drop other things I'm doing (I'm on vacation atm) for a forum mafia game
On June 03 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on.

This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes.

So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate.

On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery

I don't know who you are either lol

As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people


Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear?

m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread

Reading the rest of the thread now


what discussion were you hoping to stir with that comment?

anything really, I stand by my initial gut feeling that trying to seem overly "town-friendly" without adding content is scummy. Obviously I had very little to work with though. I don't really have a strong read either way on him either way atm

Right now I'd say Kickstart stands out to me as suspicious. Same with scott though obviously with much less to base it on. I don't like how VE is tunneling me but I don't think it's an inherently scum thing to do


What specifically about scott's play thus far has made him suspicious to you?

Just him siding with kickstarter. his posts don't reveal much at all so far. however, I think due to the low content and neutrality of his posts that he may be playing the lurker role which tends to be one that scum takes


So it is purely associative? Do you think him going back and looking through my database of games is alignment indicative?

Yes, it was a post made in support of another player and if I am reading the post in the context of the thread correctly, it had nothing to spurn it (another players' accusations, etc.)

No, I don't think going through the DB is alignment indicative at all. I do think that in most cases reading the DB can be helpful if there are vast differences in play style depending on alignment but people change as they play too, it's silly to get overly caught up in meta
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 02 2015 23:49 GMT
#376
Ritoky, Ritoky what is your read on me so I can just ask until,I break out who we are lynching today
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 02 2015 23:50 GMT
#377
@Chocolate
Yeah I don't expect anyone to be on all the time. My point has very little to do with your lack of activity and everything to do with the way you framed your absence. But whatever, it's a minor thing and something I'm willing to overlook for the time being.

You say you're caught up now, but that your only actual suspicion is Kickstart from what I can see - and it's for posting with too much authority? And scott, for agreeing with Kickstart? Is this accurate?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 02 2015 23:50 GMT
#378
I see it is becoming a point of suspicion that people think I'm extremely bossy/pointed/active/whatever. I would like to point out this game: newbie-mini-mafia-xxxiihttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/385389-newbie-mini-mafia-xxxii where I was way more aggressive than I am now. In fact both games where I was pretty active I was quite aggressive and got a lot of shit from both the observers and the other players for it (these games are newbie mini xxxii that I linked and newbie mini xxxi, I just linked xxxii because I remember that game the best. My other 2 games, the first one was my first and I was upset by people calling me bad/newbie/ able to be ignored so after day1 I basically lurked, and game 4 I was a baddie and was mostly afk due to irl stuff).

Anyways my point is that the aggressive vibe people are getting from me is pretty normal (and I'm trying to keep it down and away from blatant hostility like I was prone to do before). So it is normal for me and not alignment indicative (though just to stroke my ego I would posit that I was most aggressive in the xxxii that I linked and that I had the game solved day 1 before the day1 flip even took place; /egostroking ^^).
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 02 2015 23:52 GMT
#379
Day 1 Vote Count

milo109(1): ritoky, Kickstart
Tictock(1): sicklucker
Chocolate(1): VisceraEyes

Not Voting (10): Everybody else

Currently, Tictock is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is located here.
Posting after the deadline and before the flip will result in a modkill.
I'm adorable.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 02 2015 23:53 GMT
#380
On June 03 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:
I'm curious why you want so many strong reads from people so early when a lot of thing a are just pure null. He'll I only have 1 really town read, one lean some nulls that are almost leans and one scummy feeling.



I want reads, whether they are strong or not is secondary. I even specified that I just wanted stuff to work with so I don't expect ironclad cases or anything, I just want stuff to work with. And while you may think a lot of things are null, I think there is plenty to work with for people to at least give opinions.
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