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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 26 2015 12:51 GMT
#1121
On May 26 2015 21:46 sicklucker wrote:
Bats did are interaction not make you go screw it and vote scott right after me? Because thats how I saw it


I was probably voting scott no matter what but I did want to see if you were actually ignoring me so I did something irritating.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 26 2015 12:51 GMT
#1122
On May 26 2015 21:44 sicklucker wrote:
"Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter:
He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example.
He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!"


Why are you putting scum on me for that its true? Like you cant even this fact wtf


It's literally in the next paragraph...
You either suck at reading and miss, that i am not suspecting you, because you are tryharding to paint yourself green but because of the way you argue about it, or you just want to missunderstand and not answer to the intended point of this paragraph, saying you look shit for having double-standarts and only are paranoid / think critical, when it fits your agenda.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 26 2015 12:52 GMT
#1123
sometimes I make alot of sense. It depends on my mood really
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 26 2015 12:53 GMT
#1124
On May 26 2015 21:51 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 21:44 sicklucker wrote:
"Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter:
He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example.
He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!"


Why are you putting scum on me for that its true? Like you cant even this fact wtf


It's literally in the next paragraph...
You either suck at reading and miss, that i am not suspecting you, because you are tryharding to paint yourself green but because of the way you argue about it, or you just want to missunderstand and not answer to the intended point of this paragraph, saying you look shit for having double-standarts and only are paranoid / think critical, when it fits your agenda.


Your specifically arguing that being the 4th vote on a mafia does not suggest im town in the slightest.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 26 2015 12:56 GMT
#1125
Fun fact. 1/4th of this game is me talking and probably most of that is defending myself.

Also funfact I have never been mislynched in a regular lynch since my first game. I wonder why?
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 26 2015 13:09 GMT
#1126
On May 26 2015 21:53 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 21:51 Barakos wrote:
On May 26 2015 21:44 sicklucker wrote:
"Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter:
He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example.
He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!"


Why are you putting scum on me for that its true? Like you cant even this fact wtf


It's literally in the next paragraph...
You either suck at reading and miss, that i am not suspecting you, because you are tryharding to paint yourself green but because of the way you argue about it, or you just want to missunderstand and not answer to the intended point of this paragraph, saying you look shit for having double-standarts and only are paranoid / think critical, when it fits your agenda.


Your specifically arguing that being the 4th vote on a mafia does not suggest im town in the slightest.


No, i am arguing that the votes can't be interpreted at all, since the chance, that mafia made a plan about the votes is way too high, because it looks like scott gave up a few hours into the game and that your arguement against this is "lol, you know, what mafia said in ther qt? you scum!"

But well... guess, that confirms that you suck at reading.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 26 2015 13:10 GMT
#1127
~ Vote Count ~

27ninjabunnies (7) : batsnacks, sicklucker (X), Breshke (X), disformation, Bill Murray, Breshke, Tictock, plotspot, sicklucker
sicklucker (3) : Breshke (X), Tictock (X), disformation (X), Bill Murray (X), boxerfred, Sulfurus, Breshke (X), Barakos
Barakos (0) : sicklucker (X)
batsnacks (0) : sicklucker (X)
Bill Murray (0) : sicklucker (X)

Not voting (1) : 27ninjabunnies

Currently, 27ninjabunnies is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Tuesday, May 26 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 9 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, yell at us or something.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 26 2015 13:12 GMT
#1128
Lol that vote count.

This is D1 all over again... Should be a good sign.
I can take that responsibility.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 26 2015 13:14 GMT
#1129
On May 26 2015 21:25 Barakos wrote:
Since sl and bunnies aren't around:
Why do you think rels was killed, disfo?


Well, Rels was super obv. town and as thus was pretty much universally read as town. He was also quite active in trying to solve the game. So if he would have done a solid push on a mafia, a lot of people would have found that credible.
So:
1) Hard to gain information from the kill, since he was "obvious" town.
2) Potentially dangerous for mafia.
= good target for mafia.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 26 2015 13:15 GMT
#1130
On May 26 2015 20:59 batsnacks wrote:
Boxerfred there if there was a SK in this game 2 people would have died last night. There are usually very few roles in mafia games... Having an SK in the game is uncommon and an SK that doesn't kill the first night is so unlikely it's not really worth speculating.

Someone brought up that SK doesn't need to fire his shot so I assume there's one in? What if SK and scum have the same target?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 26 2015 13:15 GMT
#1131
On May 26 2015 21:07 plotspot wrote:
Ok let's suppose there is an SK, what reason would there be not to kill some people at night? Why wait?
And now let's suppose SL is the SK, how is his shifty behavior good for him as SK, as supposed to just play the safest town game and shoot everybody one after each other?
Tictock is your reasoning that if he establishes himself too hard as town, mafia will just kill him? Wouldn't it better then just to scumhunt hard elimating this sort of threat, instead of playing "what am I?"

My gut feeling is there is no SK.. I have yet to understand the benefit of stalling kills earlier on when it's the best time for you not to be found out.

I should've read this post here first. So adding to my above post: what if scum and sk shot the same guy?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 26 2015 13:18 GMT
#1132
idk BF what if everyone is an SK and we all targeted Rels?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 26 2015 13:19 GMT
#1133
Also afaik SK can shoot someone and doc can save the guy?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 26 2015 13:19 GMT
#1134
On May 26 2015 22:18 batsnacks wrote:
idk BF what if everyone is an SK and we all targeted Rels?

I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 26 2015 13:20 GMT
#1135
This game took a turn for the worse by now, arguing whether a role is in or not should not be an issue IMHO.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 26 2015 13:30 GMT
#1136
On May 26 2015 22:14 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 21:25 Barakos wrote:
Since sl and bunnies aren't around:
Why do you think rels was killed, disfo?


Well, Rels was super obv. town and as thus was pretty much universally read as town. He was also quite active in trying to solve the game. So if he would have done a solid push on a mafia, a lot of people would have found that credible.
So:
1) Hard to gain information from the kill, since he was "obvious" town.
2) Potentially dangerous for mafia.
= good target for mafia.


Yeah, i agree with you on this... so what do you make out of this post?

On May 25 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote:
also that nk was so bad. lol mafia


(nitpicking sl a bit here...)
that's also one of the posts I found out of place, when I reread, since killing rels made totally sense out of my point of view.
Is this SL trying to diminish rels' legacy by saying the kill was bad.

Also rels' main lynch-candidates were sl, bm and plotspot (plotspot didn't make his "would lynch" list after the first analysing-post but returned shortly before EoN1)... he stuck to them pretty much all game long.

Given this and the fact that rels would have many followers, had he tried to lynch someone from this list, I think there is a good chance mafia tried to shut him up. So - wouldn't it be good, to keep the lynches in those 3 (sl, bm, plot)?
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 26 2015 13:31 GMT
#1137
On May 26 2015 22:20 boxerfred wrote:
This game took a turn for the worse by now, arguing whether a role is in or not should not be an issue IMHO.


As batsnacks and I said - stop talking about sk please and focus on important stuff.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 26 2015 13:33 GMT
#1138
On May 26 2015 22:19 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 22:18 batsnacks wrote:
idk BF what if everyone is an SK and we all targeted Rels?

I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is!


Okay so, yes, TECHNICALLY there could be but it is unlikely. The reason I'm going hard on the THERE IS NO SK thing is that in most mafia games, someone would scumread you for this highly speculative role speculation. It makes you look like you are distancing yourself from the much more probable and relevant discussions happening in the thread, which is technically scummy.

It's the same with speculating about masons. Town gains very little from speculating about roles it usually helps mafia more than town, so best practice is usually to not talk about it until someone claims.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 26 2015 14:02 GMT
#1139
On May 26 2015 22:31 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 22:20 boxerfred wrote:
This game took a turn for the worse by now, arguing whether a role is in or not should not be an issue IMHO.


As batsnacks and I said - stop talking about sk please and focus on important stuff.

Well if SL is SK and we all agree on "there is no SK" it wouldn't be the most intelligent move to kill someone next night, would it? So we can all just vote bunnies now.

##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 26 2015 14:07 GMT
#1140
On May 26 2015 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 22:19 boxerfred wrote:
On May 26 2015 22:18 batsnacks wrote:
idk BF what if everyone is an SK and we all targeted Rels?

I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is!


Okay so, yes, TECHNICALLY there could be but it is unlikely. The reason I'm going hard on the THERE IS NO SK thing is that in most mafia games, someone would scumread you for this highly speculative role speculation. It makes you look like you are distancing yourself from the much more probable and relevant discussions happening in the thread, which is technically scummy.

It's the same with speculating about masons. Town gains very little from speculating about roles it usually helps mafia more than town, so best practice is usually to not talk about it until someone claims.

I understand that perspective, didn't think of it. I still think though that connections between roles are the most reliant way to find out about someone's alignment. Connections lead to decisions that are supported by more than one player, thus providing a way to nail someone on something. I want to discuss my theories and speculations rather openly since I want to help in a constructive way.
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