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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On May 26 2015 21:46 sicklucker wrote: Bats did are interaction not make you go screw it and vote scott right after me? Because thats how I saw it I was probably voting scott no matter what but I did want to see if you were actually ignoring me so I did something irritating. | ||
Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On May 26 2015 21:44 sicklucker wrote: "Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter: He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example. He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!" Why are you putting scum on me for that its true? Like you cant even this fact wtf It's literally in the next paragraph... You either suck at reading and miss, that i am not suspecting you, because you are tryharding to paint yourself green but because of the way you argue about it, or you just want to missunderstand and not answer to the intended point of this paragraph, saying you look shit for having double-standarts and only are paranoid / think critical, when it fits your agenda. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 26 2015 21:51 Barakos wrote: It's literally in the next paragraph... You either suck at reading and miss, that i am not suspecting you, because you are tryharding to paint yourself green but because of the way you argue about it, or you just want to missunderstand and not answer to the intended point of this paragraph, saying you look shit for having double-standarts and only are paranoid / think critical, when it fits your agenda. Your specifically arguing that being the 4th vote on a mafia does not suggest im town in the slightest. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
Also funfact I have never been mislynched in a regular lynch since my first game. I wonder why? | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On May 26 2015 21:53 sicklucker wrote: Your specifically arguing that being the 4th vote on a mafia does not suggest im town in the slightest. No, i am arguing that the votes can't be interpreted at all, since the chance, that mafia made a plan about the votes is way too high, because it looks like scott gave up a few hours into the game and that your arguement against this is "lol, you know, what mafia said in ther qt? you scum!" But well... guess, that confirms that you suck at reading. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
～ Vote Count ～ 27ninjabunnies (7) : batsnacks, sicklucker (3) : Barakos (0) : batsnacks (0) : Bill Murray (0) : Not voting (1) : 27ninjabunnies Currently, 27ninjabunnies is set to be lynched! The cycle will end at Tuesday, May 26 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 9 hours from this post. remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread. If you see any vote out of place, yell at us or something. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
This is D1 all over again... Should be a good sign. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On May 26 2015 21:25 Barakos wrote: Since sl and bunnies aren't around: Why do you think rels was killed, disfo? Well, Rels was super obv. town and as thus was pretty much universally read as town. He was also quite active in trying to solve the game. So if he would have done a solid push on a mafia, a lot of people would have found that credible. So: 1) Hard to gain information from the kill, since he was "obvious" town. 2) Potentially dangerous for mafia. = good target for mafia. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 26 2015 20:59 batsnacks wrote: Boxerfred there if there was a SK in this game 2 people would have died last night. There are usually very few roles in mafia games... Having an SK in the game is uncommon and an SK that doesn't kill the first night is so unlikely it's not really worth speculating. Someone brought up that SK doesn't need to fire his shot so I assume there's one in? What if SK and scum have the same target? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 26 2015 21:07 plotspot wrote: Ok let's suppose there is an SK, what reason would there be not to kill some people at night? Why wait? And now let's suppose SL is the SK, how is his shifty behavior good for him as SK, as supposed to just play the safest town game and shoot everybody one after each other? Tictock is your reasoning that if he establishes himself too hard as town, mafia will just kill him? Wouldn't it better then just to scumhunt hard elimating this sort of threat, instead of playing "what am I?" My gut feeling is there is no SK.. I have yet to understand the benefit of stalling kills earlier on when it's the best time for you not to be found out. I should've read this post here first. So adding to my above post: what if scum and sk shot the same guy? | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 26 2015 22:18 batsnacks wrote: idk BF what if everyone is an SK and we all targeted Rels? I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is! | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On May 26 2015 22:14 disformation wrote: Well, Rels was super obv. town and as thus was pretty much universally read as town. He was also quite active in trying to solve the game. So if he would have done a solid push on a mafia, a lot of people would have found that credible. So: 1) Hard to gain information from the kill, since he was "obvious" town. 2) Potentially dangerous for mafia. = good target for mafia. Yeah, i agree with you on this... so what do you make out of this post? On May 25 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote: also that nk was so bad. lol mafia (nitpicking sl a bit here...) that's also one of the posts I found out of place, when I reread, since killing rels made totally sense out of my point of view. Is this SL trying to diminish rels' legacy by saying the kill was bad. Also rels' main lynch-candidates were sl, bm and plotspot (plotspot didn't make his "would lynch" list after the first analysing-post but returned shortly before EoN1)... he stuck to them pretty much all game long. Given this and the fact that rels would have many followers, had he tried to lynch someone from this list, I think there is a good chance mafia tried to shut him up. So - wouldn't it be good, to keep the lynches in those 3 (sl, bm, plot)? | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On May 26 2015 22:20 boxerfred wrote: This game took a turn for the worse by now, arguing whether a role is in or not should not be an issue IMHO. As batsnacks and I said - stop talking about sk please and focus on important stuff. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On May 26 2015 22:19 boxerfred wrote: I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is! Okay so, yes, TECHNICALLY there could be but it is unlikely. The reason I'm going hard on the THERE IS NO SK thing is that in most mafia games, someone would scumread you for this highly speculative role speculation. It makes you look like you are distancing yourself from the much more probable and relevant discussions happening in the thread, which is technically scummy. It's the same with speculating about masons. Town gains very little from speculating about roles it usually helps mafia more than town, so best practice is usually to not talk about it until someone claims. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 26 2015 22:31 Barakos wrote: As batsnacks and I said - stop talking about sk please and focus on important stuff. Well if SL is SK and we all agree on "there is no SK" it wouldn't be the most intelligent move to kill someone next night, would it? So we can all just vote bunnies now. ##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 26 2015 22:33 batsnacks wrote: Okay so, yes, TECHNICALLY there could be but it is unlikely. The reason I'm going hard on the THERE IS NO SK thing is that in most mafia games, someone would scumread you for this highly speculative role speculation. It makes you look like you are distancing yourself from the much more probable and relevant discussions happening in the thread, which is technically scummy. It's the same with speculating about masons. Town gains very little from speculating about roles it usually helps mafia more than town, so best practice is usually to not talk about it until someone claims. I understand that perspective, didn't think of it. I still think though that connections between roles are the most reliant way to find out about someone's alignment. Connections lead to decisions that are supported by more than one player, thus providing a way to nail someone on something. I want to discuss my theories and speculations rather openly since I want to help in a constructive way. | ||
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