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sicklucker
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On May 26 2015 09:06 Breshke wrote: This might be really lazy because we have so many lynches left but im fairly sure if we lynch down this list in this order we will most likely win. Bunnies Sulf Barakos SL BM Look where you are on my lynch list. This will be the last post i respond to you until you stop being a shitter. | ||
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cakepie
985 Posts
～ Vote Count ～ 27ninjabunnies (4) : batsnacks, sicklucker (3) : Barakos (1) : sicklucker batsnacks (0) : Bill Murray (0) : Not voting (3) : 27ninjabunnies, Barakos, plotspot Currently, 27ninjabunnies is set to be lynched! The cycle will end at Tuesday, May 26 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). 16 hours, bitches! remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread. If you see any vote out of place, yell at us or something. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On May 26 2015 15:00 sicklucker wrote: ##vote sicklucker | ||
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sicklucker
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sicklucker
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cakepie
985 Posts
On May 26 2015 15:00 sicklucker wrote: ##vote sicklucker You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself. | ||
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sicklucker
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth. Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies. That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them. For reference, final vote count of day 1: Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote. I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL. It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum. Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds. ##vote sicklucker BF when you are around I want to talk to you about this bolded paragraph. Why do you think SL changing his votes that much means he msut know one of the peopels allighnments that he voted? Why do you think it is scummy/towny about him changing his vote that much. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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boxerfred
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 26 2015 15:42 27ninjabunnies wrote: So is anyone actually trying to figure this game out, or nah? not you thats for sure got anything else? | ||
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Breshke
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sicklucker
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
sorry for not being around yesterday. Monday was a holiday here in germany, so the day was off and I was out with friends and forgot to drop by to warn you... Will reread the thread. Looking at the votes, I think I should put emphasis on reading bunnies and sl? Anything else important? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
BF when you are around I want to talk to you about this bolded paragraph. Why do you think SL changing his votes that much means he msut know one of the peopels allighnments that he voted? Why do you think it is scummy/towny about him changing his vote that much. I think that one goal of the mafia is to confuse people the best they can, keeping everyone unsure about the aligment of others. Since they are the ones that do not care as much for exact roles, they don't really care who to vote on on day 1. I'm playing advocatus diaboli now because right now, I'm thinking "Wait, but poking as many people as possible is a good thing since it makes them talk about who they are". However, this is not what SL did. While there are like 12 people or so in this game, he limited his seemingly random votes to three people. I can see a fake vote there: "I'll vote on my ally so I can bring that up in later days". I don't think that this theory is enough to clearly pin sicklucker into a scum role. But his overall posts are more often than not oneliners, trolly, and he's really switching his commitment very often. Disinfo inspired me to analyze the posting pattern (because he analyzed my own posting pattern day 0) and SL really does not commit to longer posts that he can be nailed upon. Why is that? I think the best way to convince people that you actually have a town alignment is to explain your thoughts as well as possible. He does not. I feel like in the following post, he broke that pattern of confusion and "not-really-answering-stuff": On May 26 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote: anyway were not voting between me (11 page filter lol) and bunnies.Presurin bunnies is fine she will get out of it if shes town. The main scum against her is her vote which barakos apparently tell us ment nothing! he seems to know alot about whats going on in the mafia qt but we have to presure these 2 1 page filter new players too or this game will never go anywhere. Were not voting me today you baddies He clearly says "she'll get out of it if she's town" - why doesn't he increase the pressure being put on bunnies? Why doesn't he jump the train on bunnies (since that, to me, is the obvious, easy and bulletproof solution to not get his own train going faster). Last, but not least, there's this post from disinformation: On May 25 2015 08:20 disformation wrote: Yes that part is pretty clear to me. Was wondering about: Nobody knew that scott would't try to get a last minute vote off. Possible that I was trying to hard to find a connection between my two top scum reads. Rels and Breshke have made pretty compelling cases on you. Your answers so far weren't really satisfying. Do you want to try again? + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote: Hello, this is a message for the potentiel vig in this game. I want you to consider a sicklucker shot tonight. Please read this post and think about it. First please read Breshke post here or in spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote: Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town. Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred. Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum. SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it. We are lynching SL tomorrow. If that doesn't convince you I will take what I said about him here and add to it. First reason In a few of his posts he either says he's town or gives argument to why someone should read him town. Apparently SL is a good player, so that could be straight up subtile manipulation. It is the tactics from commercials; one can only see something so many times before one starts thinking it's true, not knowing where the thought came by. I'm talking about these posts: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote: disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote: well you should because thats how you read me town On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote: town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote: oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that On May 22 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote: im so town it hurts On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote: Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few On May 24 2015 15:42 sicklucker wrote: infact I was the hammer of the mafia and batsnackss followed me. I the town hero come at me Second reason Straigth up this. I read student IX game, and SL was town and didn't give a shit about newbies. Third reason He says that BM is a lynch bait, but says this: That could be read as "lynch him if you want, when he flips green i'm going to be right". Seems to me like he almost want BM to be lynched without him on the train. Forth reason Until late in the last day he didn't vote scott and tried to push other people with no arguments. Really no arguments, just "I'm suspicious of XXX". Even after he voted scott, he still tried to push subtily other people without voting for them. I will list the posts where he does that. I will not post what he said on batsnacks because he actually made a case on him for once. + Show Spoiler + On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote: i think disinfo could be scum On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote: one of bunnies or disinfo are scum probably disinfo On May 23 2015 13:16 sicklucker wrote: bats disinfo or bunnies + one of bm or the new guys I havent bother to read at all outside of sulp Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote: Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Fifth reason Lying. On May 24 2015 15:36 sicklucker wrote: rels was my lynch bro No I wasn't. Batsnacks then scott was your lynch. Aaaaaand that's it. sicklucker don't add anything useful, except one post: the one on batsnacks which amazingly I liked. Plus, apparently he plays like that every game, so no one can read him for sure. He really put chaos in the thread with how he posted: for example his defense post just above mine is only a gif. What do you do with people hard to read, scummy, and that does things that cause chaos ? That's right. You vigi'd them. Even if he turns out to be town, that will be less confusion on the thread. So vig, if you even exist in this setup and have not made your mind about shooting, shoot SL. On May 24 2015 17:58 Rels wrote: Two others point on SL: Sixth reason Then TT post some questions, and SL doesn't answer. Seventh reason Getting super tired. Not sure how long I'll be available. This post is like the most certain thing we have IMHO, since we know (  ) by now that Rels is town. His case towards SL was no bullshit to cover something. Considering that Rels's post was originally inspired by Breshke's post, I will put Breshke on a clear town lean for me now. Shady people: - sicklucker (strong scum read by now) - bunnies (scum read thus far, want to hear her answers to raised questions) - that guy whose name I already forgot because he types so seldomly (sulfuras) - disinformation (weak sk read by now, close to a null read) Null reads: - bill murray rest appears to be townies. I'd say we lynch SL, check on bunnies and vigishoot dis. However, I'd like to put more pressure on dis because I'm really not too sure of his alignment by now. The guy's way too polite  . If I forget to answer any raised questions, remind me. I'm at work and.. well it's awkward  . | ||
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
On May 26 2015 14:08 Tictock wrote: Oh yea last thought @ Sul I do like your PoE list besides having BS 2nd. Right now I'm thinking SL 27nb BM plots BF Plots and BF are pretty much interchangeable in that list right now though. I town read Plots for the simple reason that he scumread Rels after he died. Like what incentive does he have to do that as mafia? There is no mislynch he can push there and I don't think he realized I would town read him for that. Even if that was the purpose he would have tried to 'get credit' for it at some point instead of letting people forget about that read. In general Plot's demeanor this game has been to try get information into the hands of town instead of trying to push any kind of malicious agenda. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Point 1: Could not vote on scott D1. So she makes up this read on Dis based on BF. Carries it through to the bitter end. This explains why she scums BF but makes some weak association on Dis. This has extra weight since Dis had been pushing her earlier and there was other pressure on Dis. Point 2: She was fairly active D1, interacting and making this push on BF and Dis. Soon as scott is clearly getting lynched, she knows it's over. Ok I lied, one quote. Last post of any meaning from her. She is pushing us to find mafia who voted scott. This is actually a very good subtle play here. Point 3: 27nb has CLEARLY been around today. Pops in makes a promise of a big push. I think she does that when she asks why BM lurker voted her. Then she pops in later to ask if we've solved the game, implying there is work yet to do. From this I am 100% certain 27 NB is scum. ## Unvote ## Vote: 27ninjabunnies | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Remember this? On May 25 2015 08:07 sicklucker wrote: If im mafia whos my partner here? everyones voted me at some point of the game now. Me and bunnies would not be that obv. I sapose I could be with bm? why dont you just vote him first On May 25 2015 08:32 sicklucker wrote: Lets say im mafia who here can even be my partner? 2) Tictock like never my partner he has too many petty arguments againt me and votes me 4) plotspot Pushing me today 5) boxerfred acual this one makes some sense good thing im not scum 6) disformation hes pushing/voting me 7) Barakos would I check my team mate? Also probably pushing me im not sure 8) Sulfurus Who cares hes town 9) 27ninjabunnies Dont think we would be that obv 10) Bill Murray Im his only push apparently. I think hes the vote today 11) Breshke woulda rage quit if he was my partner 13) batsnacks pretty sure hes trying to lynch me. I voted him he voted me Wonder why SL is so defensive, yet so persistent that he is town? Why does he drone on about his HUGE filter of one liners and spam? Why does he tell us he is so experienced ans plays 100's of games? SL is the SK. | ||
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