• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:33
CEST 13:33
KST 20:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League29Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1275.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Server Blocker Terran AddOns placement How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Practice Partners (Official) Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7426 users

Assassination Mafia! - Page 64

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 62 63 64 65 66 127 Next
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 12 2015 20:51 GMT
#1261
Forgot to add that trfel latest posting looks terrible and that makes me even more suspicious of BH.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 12 2015 20:53 GMT
#1262
I'm waiting for Marv to attempt to woo me by adding my case to his own.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 12 2015 20:54 GMT
#1263
I guess you guys are probably right.

##unvote
##vote Vivax
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 12 2015 20:55 GMT
#1264
On May 13 2015 05:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:42 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:40 Trfel wrote:
I suppose I thought that Vivax's scum play was better than it actually is.

But I still prefer lynching Onegu. I would appreciate it if someone would tell my why they do not want to lynch Onegu.

Because carefree Onegu tends to be town Onegu. A few of his more recent posts have looked far more towny in that regard than his earlier posting.

This isn't a bad reason, it's one that I do agree with to an extent
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 04:58 Trfel wrote:
I think that I want to lynch Onegu today.

##vote Onegu

On May 12 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote:
Its a Ver game Im going to take it more serious. This would be true for either alignment.
He says this when it benefits himself. He only made one post which I consider "more serious" than his normal play. And he hasn't been following through with this since.

But it's his continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin that pushes it over the top. That's just not a towny thing to do. And he hasn't been keeping up with the greater seriousness that he mentioned earlier.

His constant frustration at rsoultin is perfectly in line with how he would feel if he loves playing scum and finally rolls scum, but then has rsoultin scumreading him from the very start of the game.

This is not a good case. His continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin may be dickish, and it may not be a "towny" thing to do, but it's definitely something a towny CAN do.

Like is anyone, including you, Trfel, going to sit here and tell me townies aren't fucking annoying and dickish all the time? I'm usually significantly more dickish as town. I townread rsoultin in Ippo because I thought she was being a cow.

Your final paragraph reads as "here's the mafia narrative". Ok, well maybe the town narrative is that he's angry at a rsoultin who he perceives as mafia, no-one else agrees with him, and she's antagonising him?


There are 2 lynches that I just introduced where I find it hard to say "the townie motivation is kinda likely". Vivax's play is just SO far off his townplay, it's very very difficult to handwave away.

BlazingHand saving me, and jumping on a weak case on sandroba while not entertaining the counterarguments is also very very difficult to handwave away with a town motivation.

Note: I'm not trying to say Onegu is definitely town here, he may or may not be, but I think lynching him on conjecture is not the right play when we can lynch people with far clearer differentiations


65/76

i'd agree with you that i can be a royal pain in the ass, particularly towards my scumreads, and that alone explains onegu's bs, but frankly i left him alone specifically so i wouldn't turn it into a shit fest and he's still doing the same thing. if you can point out to me what i've posted since i backed off that would encourage him to keep it up, then i'll concede the point. i still think he's mafia for the case i brought against him initially before he turned into an ass so

yeah
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 12 2015 20:57 GMT
#1265
HAHAHAHAHA....
I give up on this
I'm adorable.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 12 2015 20:57 GMT
#1266
hey marv given my non-defense of vivax if he flips town or scum what am I

same with palm, trfel, and you
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2015 20:58 GMT
#1267
rsoultin I just skimmed your filter looking for your Onegu case but I didn't find it, can you sum up the thrust of it for me in just a couple sentences?

Can you argue to me that you can't see the townside for what you're arguing, and then can you argue me the townside for what vivax and BH are doing/have done?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 12 2015 21:00 GMT
#1268
waho whoa whoa whoa don't lump me in with vivax, i'm useless yess, but i used my power for good instead of evil, surely that earns me not getting lynched until D2 hue
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2015 21:01 GMT
#1269
On May 13 2015 06:00 Blazinghand wrote:
waho whoa whoa whoa don't lump me in with vivax, i'm useless yess, but i used my power for good instead of evil, surely that earns me not getting lynched until D2 hue

It's like you're not even basically reading the thread!

:OOOOOOOOOO
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 12 2015 21:02 GMT
#1270
On May 13 2015 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 06:00 Blazinghand wrote:
waho whoa whoa whoa don't lump me in with vivax, i'm useless yess, but i used my power for good instead of evil, surely that earns me not getting lynched until D2 hue

It's like you're not even basically reading the thread!

:OOOOOOOOOO


sorry I'm tied up with dinner
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 12 2015 21:03 GMT
#1271
On May 13 2015 06:00 Blazinghand wrote:
waho whoa whoa whoa don't lump me in with vivax, i'm useless yess, but i used my power for good instead of evil, surely that earns me not getting lynched until D2 hue

That's really the only thing going for you. Would lynch immediately otherwise.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 12 2015 21:04 GMT
#1272
Just an FYI that I'm at work and can't really post too much.

##donate 5 posts to sandroba

I'll give posts to important people who need them so let's see.
Retired.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 12 2015 21:05 GMT
#1273
66/76

@marv

On May 12 2015 03:11 rsoultin wrote:
15/60

okay to be more clear why oneg is giving me the icks includes not just a similar take on his tone that marv got but also a couple things that naturally mean more to me than other people -_-

- the overexplained everything...he's more the fuck you i'm gonna do what i want type, at least in most of the games i've played with him, though the one newbie game he was more serious which is why i'm trying to get hts' input (i pay less attention than i should when i'm scum lol)

- secondly, i recently asked him why he always scumreads me every game. which actually isn't true; it just felt like it recently because of guardians where the twit fake-claimed mason with scum rayn while flaming me all game lol >< couple that with the "obligatory" and it almost seems like he's doing it just to ascribe to "meta" that actually isn't really true anyway, just me being sensitive xP

- third, he genuinely believes i'm one of the best people at reading him, yet that's not part of his scumread. it was like the central point of his read when i was scum in student VII (and why he had so much trouble getting people to actually pay attention, i might add). not seeing the OMGUS you always get my alignment right but you're WRONG and therefore SCUM response here. if anything it should be stronger cause i actually did flip scum


it's right here.

TLDR:
- too much emphasis on NOT rolling scum (tone)
- reads in one big read post overexplained (specifically, he goes on a litany of why i'm scum that amounts to weaker opinions, then ends with a "mandatory" not-town conclusion instead of a scumread)
- his scumread does not incorporate the "meta-points" he used when he correctly identified me as scum in student VII; i'm contesting that if you make meta-points and are right on the alignment, you would assume your meta was correct
- deliberate taunting (weakest point)

frankly, he could still be town here. i'm aware of that. a lot of it is gut, but i really do believe he's scum

i said i want to lynch bh? so that doesn't apply?

viva...i just feel if he's town trying to change his meta he'll fail xP so more time seems fine to me. his buried claim is also weighing into this a little. i'm aware it could be faked. but i think it's more likely that it's not given the nature of the claim
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22423 Posts
May 12 2015 21:06 GMT
#1274
I'm VT aka plebeian, you aren't losing much (besides I'd have to be afk the next 1 and a half/two days cause I go camping with a bunch of other people for a birthday party)

You know my reads, I don't explain them much, and that's fine cause I've been trying to hard as town in the past.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 12 2015 21:07 GMT
#1275
I don't know what Vivax is and I doubt I'll be able to read him before the lynch. I'm not gonna vote him but I won't defend him.

I'm not even sure I want to demand you guys sheep me onto sandroba.

Marv could actually be mafia btw.
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 21:07 GMT
#1276
viv y u so trash
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 21:07 GMT
#1277
On May 13 2015 06:07 Palmar wrote:
I don't know what Vivax is and I doubt I'll be able to read him before the lynch. I'm not gonna vote him but I won't defend him.

I'm not even sure I want to demand you guys sheep me onto sandroba.

Marv could actually be mafia btw.

stop being awful

seriously
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22423 Posts
May 12 2015 21:07 GMT
#1278
Many are like "low activity, disjointed posts" and shit and that's gonna be a lesson that meta sucks when people want it to suck.

Btw marv why unvote me?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2015 21:08 GMT
#1279
On May 13 2015 06:06 Vivax wrote:
I'm VT aka plebeian, you aren't losing much (besides I'd have to be afk the next 1 and a half/two days cause I go camping with a bunch of other people for a birthday party)

You know my reads, I don't explain them much, and that's fine cause I've been trying to hard as town in the past.

The problem with this whole story is that I've "tried" several times in the past to really handicap my towngame for almost exactly the same reason and I can never follow through with it

And while you're not me, the difference is stark as fuck.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 12 2015 21:08 GMT
#1280
On May 13 2015 06:07 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 06:07 Palmar wrote:
I don't know what Vivax is and I doubt I'll be able to read him before the lynch. I'm not gonna vote him but I won't defend him.

I'm not even sure I want to demand you guys sheep me onto sandroba.

Marv could actually be mafia btw.

stop being awful

seriously

What is awful about this?
Computer says mafia
Prev 1 62 63 64 65 66 127 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
Not-Summer Championship
WardiTV334
TaKeTV 169
TKL 116
IndyStarCraft 105
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19:00
Weekly #151 (SHIN Mod Edition)
herO vs KrystianerLIVE!
ByuN vs SHIN
ByuN346
CranKy Ducklings102
SHIN 31
CranKy Ducklings SOOP14
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 346
TKL 116
IndyStarCraft 96
SHIN 31
MindelVK 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 46376
Calm 4554
actioN 585
Horang2 567
firebathero 384
Soma 369
EffOrt 361
Stork 348
Soulkey 318
BeSt 283
[ Show more ]
Mini 269
Larva 265
Leta 205
Last 176
Hyuk 137
Snow 101
Zeus 97
Hyun 79
Free 73
ggaemo 73
Sharp 64
Pusan 54
Shinee 54
hero 52
ToSsGirL 46
Sea.KH 36
HiyA 26
Sacsri 23
Killer 22
Hm[arnc] 13
yabsab 13
Bishop 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 497
Counter-Strike
x6flipin362
Other Games
singsing1968
B2W.Neo735
Happy329
Khaldor179
DeMusliM168
crisheroes81
Fuzer 64
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 21
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH241
• Gemini_19 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2985
• WagamamaTV812
• lizZardDota2235
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 28m
IPSL
4h 28m
BSL Open Qualifier
7h 28m
WardiTV Weekly
23h 28m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 23h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
FEL
5 days
[ Show More ]
FEL
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.