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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2015 20:31 GMT
#1241
By the way, I am

Conditional Policy Lynch Vigi

I can shoot anyone who misuses the term "policy lynch"

+ Show Spoiler +
This may be a lie, but, dear reader, you get my fucking point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16330 Posts
May 12 2015 20:31 GMT
#1242
On May 13 2015 05:27 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote:
You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel?
He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum.

It's just a policy lynch.

Show me one game where Vivax played well as scum recently. Only one.
Game of Thrones Mini Mafia. His play there is much better than his play here.

What makes Vivax mafia and not lazy, obnoxious town?

8 pages of filter in 4 cycles? That is NOTHING for town Vivax.
Town Vivax can be obnoxious. In fact he almost always is. But his obnoxiousness comes from being all over the place, calling everyone scum, tinfoil hat theories etc.
If you want to know how town Vivax plays -> Void mafia, Imperial mafia. Gigantic illogical pain in the ass but always trying to solve the game and to push his thoughts. Always really active. Nothing like this game.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 20:32 GMT
#1243
On May 13 2015 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
BH could be mafia after all, because he's joined what is a pretty terrible sandroba wagon when what I posted should at least be enough for sandroba not to be lynched today. I don't understand how he can on one hand shoot down a nuke headed for me and then on the other hand completely ignore my fleshed out opinion on sandroba. I said earlier that I wasn't going to lynch someone who shot a nuke coming down on me, but the arguments about his lack of scumreads ---> sheeping this case on sandroba made my read do an about turn

I was leaning town on Palmar as well, but I also don't understand how he can ask me a question about sandroba, get a fuller response than I normally bother to give (apparently i like talking about good players or something) and then say "well, marv said all that but my points still stand herp derp"

There are also too many outlier votes right now.

I dislike Xata a little less than before, but would lynch in a pinch. Still finding it very difficult to believe that Vivax plays like this as town

##unvote
##Vote: BlazingHand


I don't believe BH "buys" Palmar's case. I think Palmar's case on sandroba is at best misguided tunnelly town and BH has been around long enough (and played with sand enough) to be able to at least grapple with this


You hurt my feelings, marv.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 12 2015 20:33 GMT
#1244
48/60

Trfel

On May 13 2015 05:27 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote:
You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel?
He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum.

It's just a policy lynch.

Show me one game where Vivax played well as scum recently. Only one.
Game of Thrones Mini Mafia. His play there is much better than his play here.

What makes Vivax mafia and not lazy, obnoxious town?


I skimmed the Game of Thrones filter. There are two very distinct parallels between that filter and his current filter.

1 His method of questioning. He asked pointed questions but DOES NOTHING WITH THEM. It's the same thing here.
2 His reads are extremely disjointed.

Yes, the quantity of posting is different, but it's not any better. Quality, it's pretty shit tier.

You've actually just further proven why Vivax is scum. 200%
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 12 2015 20:34 GMT
#1245
On May 13 2015 05:32 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
BH could be mafia after all, because he's joined what is a pretty terrible sandroba wagon when what I posted should at least be enough for sandroba not to be lynched today. I don't understand how he can on one hand shoot down a nuke headed for me and then on the other hand completely ignore my fleshed out opinion on sandroba. I said earlier that I wasn't going to lynch someone who shot a nuke coming down on me, but the arguments about his lack of scumreads ---> sheeping this case on sandroba made my read do an about turn

I was leaning town on Palmar as well, but I also don't understand how he can ask me a question about sandroba, get a fuller response than I normally bother to give (apparently i like talking about good players or something) and then say "well, marv said all that but my points still stand herp derp"

There are also too many outlier votes right now.

I dislike Xata a little less than before, but would lynch in a pinch. Still finding it very difficult to believe that Vivax plays like this as town

##unvote
##Vote: BlazingHand


I don't believe BH "buys" Palmar's case. I think Palmar's case on sandroba is at best misguided tunnelly town and BH has been around long enough (and played with sand enough) to be able to at least grapple with this


You hurt my feelings, marv.

Were you hoping to be Marv's lynch of choice?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 20:38 GMT
#1246
On May 13 2015 05:34 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:32 Xatalos wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
BH could be mafia after all, because he's joined what is a pretty terrible sandroba wagon when what I posted should at least be enough for sandroba not to be lynched today. I don't understand how he can on one hand shoot down a nuke headed for me and then on the other hand completely ignore my fleshed out opinion on sandroba. I said earlier that I wasn't going to lynch someone who shot a nuke coming down on me, but the arguments about his lack of scumreads ---> sheeping this case on sandroba made my read do an about turn

I was leaning town on Palmar as well, but I also don't understand how he can ask me a question about sandroba, get a fuller response than I normally bother to give (apparently i like talking about good players or something) and then say "well, marv said all that but my points still stand herp derp"

There are also too many outlier votes right now.

I dislike Xata a little less than before, but would lynch in a pinch. Still finding it very difficult to believe that Vivax plays like this as town

##unvote
##Vote: BlazingHand


I don't believe BH "buys" Palmar's case. I think Palmar's case on sandroba is at best misguided tunnelly town and BH has been around long enough (and played with sand enough) to be able to at least grapple with this


You hurt my feelings, marv.

Were you hoping to be Marv's lynch of choice?


More about the fact that he didn't like me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 12 2015 20:40 GMT
#1247
I suppose I thought that Vivax's scum play was better than it actually is.

But I still prefer lynching Onegu. I would appreciate it if someone would tell my why they do not want to lynch Onegu.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 12 2015 20:41 GMT
#1248
I'm trying to decide who should be my Queen of Love and Beauty. Marv is quite tempting for obvious reasons, but I feel like HalftheSky has stolen my heart.
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 12 2015 20:42 GMT
#1249
On May 13 2015 05:40 Trfel wrote:
I suppose I thought that Vivax's scum play was better than it actually is.

But I still prefer lynching Onegu. I would appreciate it if someone would tell my why they do not want to lynch Onegu.

Because carefree Onegu tends to be town Onegu. A few of his more recent posts have looked far more towny in that regard than his earlier posting.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 20:44 GMT
#1250
Oh, Viv.

##vote: Vivax
Writer@WriterYamato
TalkingDead
Profile Joined March 2015
102 Posts
May 12 2015 20:45 GMT
#1251
Donate 8 posts to marvellosity
I shall give you this chance to win my heart for now and until the end of time.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 12 2015 20:45 GMT
#1252
I might need some posts.

I slept the entire afternoon. I don't know what's going on.

Anyway, I think town has to organise themselves. I would like people to list others that they think are most likely town.

Like this:

HTS
Damdred
Palmar
Sandroba
Yamato


If we get a similar list, we form a town circle and consolidate our votes.
Please let's listen to each other and agree with a good lynch.
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 12 2015 20:46 GMT
#1253
64/76

i've wanted to lynch either blazinghand or onegu for over half the cycle it feels like lol >< but...and yes, but...

marv...i'm not sure why you're more sure on bh than vivax? unless it's ego lol >< the literal only reason i have to hesitate on vivax is a poor one at best, but it's enough to make me not want to lynch him today (in part because i think a waiting game will reveal how true his claim about wanting to change his game truly is). i don't see a similar hesitance in you, and it seems strange that a meta read on vivax that has held true in his last several games would give way to the anti-nuker (who saved you) over a sandroba read?

also...i'm just gonna stick with my gut on onegu, i've decided. yes, he's being obnoxious >< but the things that made me think he was mafia still exist, and frankly the <3 thing has crossed from obnoxious to flat-out taunting, which doesn't really make sense to me from a town perspective. even if he's town and 100% convinced i'm scum, why keep it up? if i'm scum it wouldn't even aggravate me...he's my mislynch, after all, in his mind, yeah?

as for xata...meh. i have things i want to check that i don't have time for. don't really like him. could settle on him. would prefer onegu/bh in that order. ksc falls slightly behind xata, but i wouldn't lynch him today even as a compromise.

onegu
bh
xata

i will lynch

or bring me a good case on someone not town. i think i've taken enough time to get as much out of the omgus mentality as i'm likely to get, so...eh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 12 2015 20:47 GMT
#1254
Eh, I get it, Vivax is being uncaring or whatever, and he actually is a really amazing player as town. I can't really give a good argument in his defense, but I still think the right move here is to follow Palmar, who has god tier D1 reads
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 12 2015 20:47 GMT
#1255
rsoultin probably scum for increased use of emoticons
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 12 2015 20:48 GMT
#1256
marv is my new top town lol. I agree with all his points. Also wouldn't mind lynching Vivax if he is going to keep up with this shit about using this game to break his meta. If true this should be bannable for playing against your win condition. His HTS and marv scum reads are pretty nonsensical and he doesn't bother going in detail about anything.
I don't think BH lynch is going to happen today despite agreeing with marv about him. Xatalos is indeed looking slightly better and I would prefer a vivax lynch over him at this point.
I'm slightly over my post limit, but according to the OP this shouldn't be so much of a problem.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 12 2015 20:49 GMT
#1257
brb dinner
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 12 2015 20:50 GMT
#1258
On May 13 2015 05:42 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 05:40 Trfel wrote:
I suppose I thought that Vivax's scum play was better than it actually is.

But I still prefer lynching Onegu. I would appreciate it if someone would tell my why they do not want to lynch Onegu.

Because carefree Onegu tends to be town Onegu. A few of his more recent posts have looked far more towny in that regard than his earlier posting.

This isn't a bad reason, it's one that I do agree with to an extent
On May 13 2015 04:58 Trfel wrote:
I think that I want to lynch Onegu today.

##vote Onegu

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote:
Its a Ver game Im going to take it more serious. This would be true for either alignment.
He says this when it benefits himself. He only made one post which I consider "more serious" than his normal play. And he hasn't been following through with this since.

But it's his continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin that pushes it over the top. That's just not a towny thing to do. And he hasn't been keeping up with the greater seriousness that he mentioned earlier.

His constant frustration at rsoultin is perfectly in line with how he would feel if he loves playing scum and finally rolls scum, but then has rsoultin scumreading him from the very start of the game.

This is not a good case. His continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin may be dickish, and it may not be a "towny" thing to do, but it's definitely something a towny CAN do.

Like is anyone, including you, Trfel, going to sit here and tell me townies aren't fucking annoying and dickish all the time? I'm usually significantly more dickish as town. I townread rsoultin in Ippo because I thought she was being a cow.

Your final paragraph reads as "here's the mafia narrative". Ok, well maybe the town narrative is that he's angry at a rsoultin who he perceives as mafia, no-one else agrees with him, and she's antagonising him?


There are 2 lynches that I just introduced where I find it hard to say "the townie motivation is kinda likely". Vivax's play is just SO far off his townplay, it's very very difficult to handwave away.

BlazingHand saving me, and jumping on a weak case on sandroba while not entertaining the counterarguments is also very very difficult to handwave away with a town motivation.

Note: I'm not trying to say Onegu is definitely town here, he may or may not be, but I think lynching him on conjecture is not the right play when we can lynch people with far clearer differentiations
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 20:50 GMT
#1259
would not mind murdering BH
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 12 2015 20:51 GMT
#1260
lol, someone ninja'd bill

GB might be mafia >_>
Writer@WriterYamato
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