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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On May 13 2015 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Oh and I forgot JAT. Rso can go to townish pile for now but didn't read carefully yet.
On May 12 2015 04:49 Vivax wrote:
Rso no that much of a pita in this game, what's going on? Actually explaining her reads all the time not just interfering with other people's.
Might be she's aiming for the townie of the month award but then that's what's odd about all of that.
Also she seems particularly attentive to stuff adressed to her, also feels unusual.
Metatonish read, not the rso I'm used to who was always the townie one.
your line of reasoning confuses me, you had her as too town to be town based on that second quote, clearly you read her stuff, now later on you are just throwing her in the town pile but disclaiming it with "haven't read her carefully"
I don't understand this at all.
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....Are you really deciding your reads before even reading? And those reads are mostly pretty terrible.
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Screw it let's just lynch Vivax today.
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Vote Count:
Vivax (6) - LightningStrike, Marvellosity, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi, Xatalos
Justanothertownie (1) - Yamato77
Xatalos (3) - Damdred, Oatsmaster, Half The Sky
TalkingDead (1) - KelsierSC
Rsoultin (1) - Onegu
Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend
Sandroba (3) - Palmar, Batsnacks, BlazingHand
Oatsmaster (2) - Rsoultin, GlowingBear
until lynch!
Vivax is set to be lynched!
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Bill Murray (despite probably being town) should not have been pardoned. It's likely that Bill Murray would not have been lynched. Furthermore, the Bill Murray wagon was giving a lot of information. Bill Murray also should not have been shot, it is easily possible to convince enough people that Bill Murray is town to not have the entire thread filled with it.
But GlowingBear and Damdred are most likely town anyway, their actions had no solid mafia motivation.
I think that I want to lynch Onegu today.
##vote Onegu
On May 12 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote:
Its a Ver game Im going to take it more serious. This would be true for either alignment. He says this when it benefits himself. He only made one post which I consider "more serious" than his normal play. And he hasn't been following through with this since.
But it's his continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin that pushes it over the top. That's just not a towny thing to do. And he hasn't been keeping up with the greater seriousness that he mentioned earlier.
His constant frustration at rsoultin is perfectly in line with how he would feel if he loves playing scum and finally rolls scum, but then has rsoultin scumreading him from the very start of the game.
It's not great, but I don't really see most of the other wagons. Though I could definitely see myself lynching sandroba.
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I forgot to mention, Onegu's continual defense of me doesn't look that good either. He knows that I am susceptible to buddying. He defended me from one of Bill Murray's accusations when there was no need to do so at all, and when I was at no risk of being lynched, instead of drawing a conclusion about Bill Murray's alignment from this.
Onegu has a good shot at being scum.
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You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel?
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On May 13 2015 04:33 Xatalos wrote:
jat I don't think you've really expressed your opinion on Onegu?
I have no reason to townread him if that's what you want to know.
I would lie if I said that I did not think about his stuff n0 being a traitor claim but it wouldn't be the first time for Onegu to just complain about not rolling scum as town.
His rsoultin read is awful and he doesn't seem to be willing to reconsider. Does that make him scum? Probably not.
I wouldn't mind him dying but I would not lynch a question mark like him over someone who is really obviously scummy like Vivax.
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On May 13 2015 04:58 Trfel wrote:Bill Murray (despite probably being town) should not have been pardoned. It's likely that Bill Murray would not have been lynched. Furthermore, the Bill Murray wagon was giving a lot of information. Bill Murray also should not have been shot, it is easily possible to convince enough people that Bill Murray is town to not have the entire thread filled with it. But GlowingBear and Damdred are most likely town anyway, their actions had no solid mafia motivation. I think that I want to lynch Onegu today. ##vote OneguShow nested quote +On May 12 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote:
Its a Ver game Im going to take it more serious. This would be true for either alignment. He says this when it benefits himself. He only made one post which I consider "more serious" than his normal play. And he hasn't been following through with this since. But it's his continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin that pushes it over the top. That's just not a towny thing to do. And he hasn't been keeping up with the greater seriousness that he mentioned earlier. His constant frustration at rsoultin is perfectly in line with how he would feel if he loves playing scum and finally rolls scum, but then has rsoultin scumreading him from the very start of the game. It's not great, but I don't really see most of the other wagons. Though I could definitely see myself lynching sandroba.
I have no idea how anyone can "not see a Vivax wagon" but see a sandroba wagon instead. It is a total mystery.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
can someone link me to conslidated vivax case plx
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On May 13 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote:
You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel? He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum.
It's just a policy lynch.
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On May 13 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote:
You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel? He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum. It's just a policy lynch.
Show me one game where Vivax played well as scum recently. Only one.
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Tldr case on Vivax:
1. Distinct lack of sexy
2. Noticeably lower activity than as town
3. Lack of desire to find mafia
4. Lack of magical thinking typical of his town play
5. Has not yet bowed before King TalkingDead in fealty
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On May 13 2015 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:On May 13 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote:
You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel? He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum. It's just a policy lynch. Show me one game where Vivax played well as scum recently. Only one. Game of Thrones Mini Mafia. His play there is much better than his play here.
What makes Vivax mafia and not lazy, obnoxious town?
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Blazinghand:
On May 13 2015 05:21 Blazinghand wrote:
can someone link me to conslidated vivax case plx
I have consolidated cases on Vivax/Xatalos here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?page=58#1154
Also GlowingBear has a case incoming on Oats.
Trfel:
On May 13 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote:
You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel? He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum. It's just a policy lynch.
Trfel, no, just no. Looking at your history, I think you've only had one game with Vivax (and he was town in Carol).
You are unfamiliar with his scum meta. His scum meta is that he lurks and dies basically. Even on the content of his posting, there are major issues with what he HAS posted. A town Vivax would have pushed Rasputin when he first mentioned her. A town Vivax would be pushing Marv and myself. He listed us two this late in the game, he knows he doesn't have to do any work because neither of us are getting lynched today.
VisceraEyes:
On May 13 2015 02:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've been considering a sandroba lynch, but I'm not about that life so much. I kinda agree with marv's post on the matter, plus I feel like as mafia he just sorta doesn't play. That leaves me with players like Stutters, Vivax, Xatalos for the lynch. I think of the three, I prefer Vivax or Stutters.
Stutters does jack all D1 as either alignment, since he's returned recently. How are you sure he's scum this go this soon? The 2 games I've had with him, both alignments he's easier to read post lynch. So how are you fleshing him out now? Especially compared to the other lurkers?
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On May 13 2015 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 04:33 Xatalos wrote:
jat I don't think you've really expressed your opinion on Onegu? I have no reason to townread him if that's what you want to know. I would lie if I said that I did not think about his stuff n0 being a traitor claim but it wouldn't be the first time for Onegu to just complain about not rolling scum as town. His rsoultin read is awful and he doesn't seem to be willing to reconsider. Does that make him scum? Probably not. I wouldn't mind him dying but I would not lynch a question mark like him over someone who is really obviously scummy like Vivax.
Maybe, but he also included the Traitor bit and afterwards tried to "clear" himself by saying he couldn't be Traitor if he didn't know about the rules. Felt like being weirdly defensive about the issue.
What about the other points I made and his overall apathy?
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
BH could be mafia after all, because he's joined what is a pretty terrible sandroba wagon when what I posted should at least be enough for sandroba not to be lynched today. I don't understand how he can on one hand shoot down a nuke headed for me and then on the other hand completely ignore my fleshed out opinion on sandroba. I said earlier that I wasn't going to lynch someone who shot a nuke coming down on me, but the arguments about his lack of scumreads ---> sheeping this case on sandroba made my read do an about turn
I was leaning town on Palmar as well, but I also don't understand how he can ask me a question about sandroba, get a fuller response than I normally bother to give (apparently i like talking about good players or something) and then say "well, marv said all that but my points still stand herp derp"
There are also too many outlier votes right now.
I dislike Xata a little less than before, but would lynch in a pinch. Still finding it very difficult to believe that Vivax plays like this as town
##unvote
##Vote: BlazingHand
I don't believe BH "buys" Palmar's case. I think Palmar's case on sandroba is at best misguided tunnelly town and BH has been around long enough (and played with sand enough) to be able to at least grapple with this
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On May 13 2015 05:21 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote:
You haven't really mentioned Vivax Trfel? He's just being obnoxious. He's capable of playing way better than this as town or as scum. It's just a policy lynch.
In my experience he just sucks as scum.
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