EPTNewbie Student Mafia IX - Page 58
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sicklucker
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On May 07 2015 01:13 sicklucker wrote: You absolutely claim here YOU CONFIRM A MAFIA LOL. Stop being such a boring prude hts make some plays. I get it if your the vet and dont claim but just push and try to get super lynch. But if the vets some new player thats never getting killed the best thing you can do is claim and give me this confirmed information so I dont mislynch super the 1/4 chance hes town here Alright, I understand you now reading this post. A scum Superbia here is quite the active scum. I want to hear what Superbia has to say though. I don't like the townread on prplhz, there's a double standard out, and the latter is a LIWF for me. It's pre-flip association but I think now with a meta establishment it's a decent shot, the hypothesis that he's scum making a play. | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:32 Superbia wrote: This is not how you solve the game. If you're town you need to re-think right now. Let's assume prp is scum. Who is scum other than prp? What's his team? Yikes, this is another loaded question. No one has flipped yet. If prp is town, this is a very good way to mislead people. | ||
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Half the Sky
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On May 06 2015 20:58 Half the Sky wrote: So let me see if I understand your rationale correctly. Stutters and prp have exactly one scumread, the former on prp and the latter on myself. You're willing to start a train on Stutters even though: 1 your opinions of myself are changing/have changed (and you use your echoing of thoughts of prplhz as the basis for townreading him) and his really hadn't 2 you expand your potential scumreads and prplhz is not, or hasn't yet If you're not "mind-melding" with him or whatever the term is called, any longer, why are you still townreading him? This is the double standard I have a problem with btw sicklucker. He threw me a loaded question on my D1 performance (lol?) and the one with Stutters is just as bad. The VCA one was patchy but once he elaborated on that it made some sense. But loaded questions are mafia agenda, they are unproductive and generally promote misdirection. | ||
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On May 06 2015 09:46 Superbia wrote: If you have a red check on prp you should just claim tbh. This quote could be trying to get a potential detective to claim very early in the day. Remember student 5 or 6? DT Lightning Strike claims first thing with a red check (poor decision on his part) and the day is effectively unproductive. | ||
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On May 07 2015 01:28 Half the Sky wrote: Ah Superbia.......do us all a favour and explain all these quotes. Because right now you have mafia agenda written all over you. Totally waffling back and forth on Superbia right now. Would love to see some answers as well. =/ | ||
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Stutters695
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Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds. | ||
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On May 07 2015 00:44 sicklucker wrote: Oh super claimed rb? Hes very likely mafia now I will vote him. From my experience mafia will claim rb like half of the time regardless of the setup so im always suspect of the roleblock claim. But when theres a vet in the game (There is 50% of the time in this set up but mafia knows what setup were in) mafia will always roleblock whoever they nk because if you roleblock your nightkill then the vet power is neutriled. So mafia will know there is a vet because they are told the setup and will have roleblocked ff if its a veteran setup 100% of the time. Also meta wise supers one mafia win that I know of was my very first game. He claimed roleblock that game too and rode it to a mafia win. Let me ask the host if rb goes through vet power in this setup but it usually does. Told ya you should have killed me super I like this logic. On May 07 2015 00:44 Half the Sky wrote: Looked at a few more filters. Celestial, I looked at your latest list post. I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked Stutters. prplhz appears right now your top lynch. Let's say that prplhz disappeared or more realistically, he was replaced for whatever reason, hypothetically. 1 Who else would you lynch? 2 Have your opinions changed on tictock? 1. Probably y0su. Sicklucker has actually done some interesting things past few pages so now I think everyone on my "you need to do something tangible" list from my last big post actually HAS done something which gives me a little more to go on. Of all of them y0su was looking pretty bad at the time of my last wall of reads. Since then as far as I can tell his grand total contribution has been a couple of comments on how being wrong does not automatically equal being mafia and a handful of reads which basically amount to "everyone is green lets all be happy happy" except a very weak toneread on Shining. This is despite me basically outright telling him he's GOT to be more aggressive and assertive to avoid a red reading he's not done so yet. He's not pointed a finger at anyone for being scum and he's not been asking any questions or prodding for responses. I think he's gone off to sleep now but I mean come on...we're approaching half way through D2 and he's got a short filter with absolutely nothing of real value in it so far. He's full of excuses and explanations for his behaviour but has shown no change. He's getting away with absolute murder here and I don't like it one bit. That being said...I'll have to think on Superbia some more. sicklucker has some good points here. 2. Still not a huge fan, his posting has improved a lot but it took a fairly big effort to get those reads out of him. Wouldn't want to lynch right now though without fully reviewing his filter. | ||
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Half the Sky
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On May 06 2015 08:56 Superbia wrote: Also I'm never scum after generating that much content and almost literally engaging everyone, changing my reads constantly and consistently. Top that with an RB and you're set. I'm never entertaining that thought this game. Anyone who believes that I'm scummier than: - Tictock - disformation - y0su - The Shining - Half the Sky - prplhz - sicklucker - Stutters695 I am interested to hear your thoughts on all of the above. On May 06 2015 08:57 Superbia wrote: Oh yeah, and I also never kill FF there. Ever. First quote - talking in absolutes (specifically the word "never") is bad. If he's scum, a beginner town would be doomed for eliminating the possibility of him being scum. He's changing his reads, but the issue is why he's changing his reads. In a world where he's scum, it fits in perfectly with mafia agenda of misdirection. In a world where he's town...um...where is the motivation for town to remind us he's doing what he's doing? Second quote is 100% WIFOM. | ||
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Superbia
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On May 07 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote: There are too many lurkers. I wish I could pressure them all really. Yeah. But you're not. You're pressuring town, and the most vocal one at that. | ||
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sicklucker
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On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote: Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from? Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds. 50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play. 0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta) thats how I got 50-75% | ||
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Half the Sky
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On May 07 2015 01:29 sicklucker wrote: at the very least it might bee spew that prp is mafia Independent of association, I don't like either. But one needs to flip before you go further on the other. | ||
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On May 07 2015 01:36 Superbia wrote: Yeah. But you're not. You're pressuring town, and the most vocal one at that. Are you not reading the thread? My vote is on prplhz. And the chances of all scummers being lurkers are small. I have not read the scum game yet that sicklucker has referenced. Scum can be active. Rasputin in Student 8 had the largest filter - she was scum. Holyflare posts a tonne as scum. Please. I am not making assumptions solely on how long your filter is. That's general trend but a good mafia player who is a conversationalist in this game can have a lengthy filter. I didn't join TL yesterday. | ||
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