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On May 06 2015 16:13 y0su wrote:
disformation is it supposed to be disINformation? (that's not a read on him, just curious if people have been writing his name like that on purpose?) His smiles bug me - they make me feel like he's trying to win favor. Trying to sound friendly and helpful. However, a few of his posts have well explained thought processes and I'll chalk up his indecision on learning - for now.
The nick is disformation. Which is not a correct english word. Could be disinformation or deformation. Yes HtS keeps calling me desinformation. Noticed that, too. Reminds me that I had to make a new account @ twitch.tv because nobody would believe the stuff I typed in chat with this nick. 
Also FF called me disambiguation and dystopian future. Which made me lol really hard. A pity that isn't around anymore. 
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On May 06 2015 22:14 disformation wrote:
So was he really shot as a possible medic dodge or because he was onto superbia and ritoky? Or is that planned as a distraction to get town to lynch more town? confusing...
Nightkill rationale is WIFOM. (I assume you know what WIFOM means.) It's not harmful in of itself to speculate provided it doesn't drive your gameplay.
I'm feeling better about ritoky from the way he's re-evaluating people, but there's always the possibility a scum Superbia claimed when in reality there actually might be a veteran around and Fecalfeast very well could have been killed and RBed. It is mechanical speculation, but it possibly exists.
As there has been history of veteran scum claiming to be RBed, I think it's important to continue evaluating his gameplay overtime.
On May 06 2015 22:14 disformation wrote:
Though I rethought superbia and want to start to see him more as super pushy/aggressive town... need to rethink superbia and rikoty again it seems...
You didn't think he was aggressive towards me (or you for that matter) at EoD D1? What did you think of him (or ritoky) EoD?
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On May 06 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm feeling better about ritoky from the way he's re-evaluating people, but there's always the possibility a scum Superbia claimed when in reality there actually might be a veteran around and Fecalfeast very well could have been killed and RBed. It is mechanical speculation, but it possibly exists.
EBWOP - Also with the previous point in mind, I do not know if Superbia is a high-risk high-reward player generally speaking as scum. But that's usually another factor I'd consider whether he'd be likely to make such a play early in the game.
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On May 06 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 22:14 disformation wrote:
Though I rethought superbia and want to start to see him more as super pushy/aggressive town... need to rethink superbia and rikoty again it seems... You didn't think he was aggressive towards me (or you for that matter) at EoD D1? What did you think of him (or ritoky) EoD?
My thoughts on Superbia on EoD D1? I thought him to be a bully trying to push ppl around and provoke people into making mistakes. That is why I gave him such a knee jerk reaction after waffling for a moment. Which is was I was pretty much annoyed by him for a fair bit. I now rethought him and think he is a very aggressive townie opposed to a very aggressive mafia. But not 100% sure. He is still super hard to read for me.
Ritoky: he wanted a secondary train so I could see him just doing some poking for the sake of information. A few of his arguments where super weak. Have yet to check what he did the rest of N1 and D2 so far.
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Not to say that ritoky wasn't aggressive at all. I just read Superbia way more aggressive. Maybe that is biased because Superbia was also aggressive towards me and not only you.
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On May 06 2015 22:33 disformation wrote:
Which is was I was pretty much annoyed by him for a fair bit. I now rethought him and think he is a very aggressive townie opposed to a very aggressive mafia.
What distinction are you making here?
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Hmmmm...that's poorly worded. Let me rephrase.
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On May 06 2015 22:33 disformation wrote:
Which is was I was pretty much annoyed by him for a fair bit. I now rethought him and think he is a very aggressive townie opposed to a very aggressive mafia.
How are you distinguishing between town aggression and mafia aggression?
To use other examples, there are veterans such as JAT/Holyflare/Koshi who are known bullies as both alignments.
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On May 06 2015 22:51 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 22:33 disformation wrote:
Which is was I was pretty much annoyed by him for a fair bit. I now rethought him and think he is a very aggressive townie opposed to a very aggressive mafia. What distinction are you making here?
I think I read his motivation different now. EoD1 I read him more as trying to confuse or boss people around as in "do what I want you do to, or imma lynch you" or "come on townies start to scream at each other a bit more, so I can set up misslynches D2". Is that what scumandeering means?
Now I am seeing him more as a townie who aggressively pushes/annoys people to get more reads from them.
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On May 06 2015 22:58 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 22:51 Half the Sky wrote:On May 06 2015 22:33 disformation wrote:
Which is was I was pretty much annoyed by him for a fair bit. I now rethought him and think he is a very aggressive townie opposed to a very aggressive mafia. What distinction are you making here? I think I read his motivation different now. EoD1 I read him more as trying to confuse or boss people around as in "do what I want you do to, or imma lynch you" or "come on townies start to scream at each other a bit more, so I can set up misslynches D2". Is that what scumandeering means? Now I am seeing him more as a townie who aggressively pushes/annoys people to get more reads from them.
Alright. I can see where you mean. Your search for motivations makes it more likely you're town.
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And....more stuff at work. AFK again...
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I'm awake, going to work but I should have some time today.
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After looking at some filters.
Really don't like prplhz. Willing to vote, not going to do so right this moment, because I am still confused as to where I put some other ppl. Read as: looking very scummy, but I am not 100% if one of my other suspects looks scummier.
On May 06 2015 07:12 The Shining wrote:
Skimmed from EoD up to now. Scott townflip really hurts but I'm not sure how we could have avoided that. Haven't had time to sit at my laptop for anything and trying to actively read 100+ posts on mobile is impossible. Looks like I'm prime d2 lynchbait so I'm going to actually take my time, reread and answer the questions and reads I was asked for.
Not like I need to rush. No way scum kills me tonight when people are still scumming me. Yay me.
Yep, expecting to something good from you D2. You've had a few towny posts D1, but by now you could be easily be a scum lurker.
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On May 06 2015 20:47 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 19:28 -Celestial- wrote:On May 06 2015 16:49 sicklucker wrote:
If im a cop I have a green on hts
Is this a drunken claim? If it is then that simplifies things a bit (though I dunno, game has a Godfather in it...). Although if its supposed to be a more generic statement then I agree that HtS should probably have been the cop check if there was one last night. sicklucker is experienced enough that I wouldn't see him outing or even breadcrumbing a green check on D2 after a ML. There's no motive for him to out, people are calling him for lurking (and I reiterate that again now) but he's not absolute top lynch on people's list atm. There's no pressure and it's early in the day.
I would totally do this as the real cop 100% of the time its something I learned on another site. The idea is to fake it x amount that mafia does not believe me. but if I do die in the night and I am the real cop theirs no fighting about who my check is because I left it in the thread. Also if I am faking a check and I die in the night as vt, it means hts is most likely town because mafia would have no reason to kill me if my fake check was on a mafia member. Its a very useful strategy that everyone should use
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@sicklucker:
your top town and scum reads atm, and why?
I also haven't seen you do any real pushing.
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EBWOP: Oh missed your last post. Good to see you are here.
I also like the cop thing. Will note that down.
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Ehhh, you tend to wifom like this as town...
So if you are reading me as town regardless, where do you stand on some of the others this game? I think the entire game at this point is asking you to contribute more. We're in D2 now.
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Christ, I know there are more Euros around than this. Where in the bloody hell is everyone?
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I imagine most of the NA players are off at work but pretty sure I thought more would be around now. Damn.
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Oh super claimed rb? Hes very likely mafia now I will vote him.
From my experience mafia will claim rb like half of the time regardless of the setup so im always suspect of the roleblock claim. But when theres a vet in the game (There is 50% of the time in this set up but mafia knows what setup were in) mafia will always roleblock whoever they nk because if you roleblock your nightkill then the vet power is neutriled.
So mafia will know there is a vet because they are told the setup and will have roleblocked ff if its a veteran setup 100% of the time.
Also meta wise supers one mafia win that I know of was my very first game. He claimed roleblock that game too and rode it to a mafia win.
Let me ask the host if rb goes through vet power in this setup but it usually does. Told ya you should have killed me super
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