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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 06 2015 16:40 GMT
#1161
Although as far as the "who would I lynch" thing goes....now that I've caught up...

Gah, now I don't know. I had Superbia as playing kinda scummy and had a tentative correlation with scott. Since scott flipped green I guess I've been mentally going easier on Superbia (especially given the huge amount of effort he's been putting in and the aggression which looks very town) but looking at this conversation going on here...
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 16:40 GMT
#1162
On May 07 2015 01:39 Half the Sky wrote:
I am not making assumptions solely on how long your filter is. That's general trend but a good mafia player who is a conversationalist in this game can have a lengthy filter.

I didn't join TL yesterday.


EBWOP - That posting loads as town more than scum is a general trend but a good mafia player who is a conversationalist in this game can have a lengthy filter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 16:41 GMT
#1163
Yes I was right about the vig and my logic was right on why they should claim. Palmer not hard claiming acualy lost us that game because they shot eden thinking he was the veg
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 16:43 GMT
#1164
On May 07 2015 01:35 Superbia wrote:
Nice context SL. The game where I claimed RB as mafia was at a point where the cop was dead and the medic was outed.


So you did it when it didnt matter? Then your definitely gonna do it when it does
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 16:43 GMT
#1165
You have claimed rb 100% of the time when you were mafia and had the opportunity. This I believe to be a hard fact
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 16:45 GMT
#1166
sicklucker and Celestial - evaluate Superbia's behaviour INDEPENDENT of meta (or in this case his RB claim).

There are town and mafia motivations for claiming RB.

My contention is that his behaviour in this game there is a mafia agenda. To sum up my arguments.

1 Loaded questions - both to myself and Stutters - generally unproductive
2 Misdirection plays
3 The quote where he talks in absolutes where he's basically asking to dismiss him as a scum candidate
4 The DT claim request - DT claims this early in the day destroy the day
5 Behaviour EoD 1 was a "toys out the pram" approach to getting me lynched and his read progression was lacking with OMGUS in there
6 Post lynch he has ZERO focus on me and goes off on Stutters

And finally the meta - I am not meta reading it but the above looks very bad, I don't care that he's active because activity alone does not guarantee he's pure.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 16:46 GMT
#1167
You've going to explain this Superbia, whether you like it or not.

##unvote
##vote Superbia
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 16:46 GMT
#1168
I'm out of the office. I will be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#1169
Well I think ill get my reads from his reaction. Im not really good at that stuff
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 16:49 GMT
#1170
I did not like it so far
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 16:53 GMT
#1171
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 16:55 GMT
#1172
bleh being on call for the ER is shit some days.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 16:56 GMT
#1173
On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.


Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 17:01 GMT
#1174
It can also be said you know im wrong and are setting me up for a mislynch. Anything is possible keep your eyes open make the best judgement youb can and prepare to be wrong alot
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 17:02 GMT
#1175
On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.


Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong

I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 17:03 GMT
#1176
so HtS, since no1 is ccing the RB claim, and none of the setups allow for a town RB; you have to think that FF was both RB'd and shot last night. In all other cases, superbia is guaranteed town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 17:07 GMT
#1177
o ppl already talked about this, maybe i should catch up first lulz
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 06 2015 17:10 GMT
#1178
On May 07 2015 02:02 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?

Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds.


50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play.

0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta)

thats how I got 50-75%

Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from.


Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong

I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look.


Im offering you a really good lynch math does not lie! This preflip blame is hella scummy
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 17:14 GMT
#1179
after reading, i don't particularly like SL's reasoning, but i have a hard time imagining he is scum who didn't know the RB rules and how they functioned with the vet. seems like something he would know as scum. SL is wifom town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 17:16 GMT
#1180
i am not particularly a fan of this superbia lynch. it seems very similar to the scott lynch. same people pushing it, no1 defending superbia, a lot of tone reasoning, and no real exploration into other people. i feel like one of the few people considering alternatives.

someone might be railroading this game....need to figure out whom.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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