EPTHtS showed up today, better late than never, I suppose. Last time I played with her, she was obviously and significantly town. This is a bit more subdued, but not neccessarily scummy. Her appearance today has been pretty active and analytical and looking into posts, but it had to be, as she was already under pressure for her slow first half of D1. Outside of sheeping and strengthening a case on Scott from Cel, she has engaged other players, shared reads and meta reads and taken stances. Looks like an active bid to solve the game.
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HtS showed up today, better late than never, I suppose. Last time I played with her, she was obviously and significantly town. This is a bit more subdued, but not neccessarily scummy. Her appearance today has been pretty active and analytical and looking into posts, but it had to be, as she was already under pressure for her slow first half of D1. Outside of sheeping and strengthening a case on Scott from Cel, she has engaged other players, shared reads and meta reads and taken stances. Looks like an active bid to solve the game. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:27 ritoky wrote: @shining: you don't think super's reading of your past game filters is at all alignment indicative? I do. I thought I scummed him somewhere for it, I might not have posted it, though. He claimed to have read my past games but I'm not sure I believe him, unless it was "these posts look about the same size and posted the same, good enough." He claimed my filter here looked those town filters. If that were the case, he'd know I opened this game exactly like my last town game. Name 3 random ppl who have alrdy posted, call them scumteam, gg. He'd also know literally any time I've been scummed, I defend myself tooth and nail. So scumming me for being bitter and sardonic when he's the reason I'm bitter(scumming me over an HtS slip that was clearly in her filter) instead of looking at it objectively just looks like trying to push me. It felt more to me like he asked for those games, skimmed 1 or 2, claimed to read them for town cred(what scum would read games to figure out meta? they know alignments) and then let it go. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:46 ritoky wrote: effort reads are things like x is town cuz he is posting a lot, reading shit, considering things, asking questions, and such similar things. Ohhhh, like my read on HtS VS my read on Super. Like the fact that Super had no proof he even read any of my past games, other than claiming I'm usually relaxed. Whereas HtS has been in games with me, and in her other posts not regarding me, uses quotes to illustrate her thought process. Is that what you meant when you said I was inconsistent? | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:48 ritoky wrote: i am just really confused about your alignment, you're a very complex null read for me and i am trying to push you to give responses so that i can get a more solid read on you. I almost always am before we get to D2 and I can actually do what I'm good at. Vote analysis, night reactions, association regarding first flip, etc. This is one of the main reasons I say I suck D1 and why I try not to play it. But there's no reason not to interact and at least put my reads into the thread. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote: I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns. I'll look into this, I thought it was strange that after that initial response from Tic regarding me, I don't see anything else regarding a read on me. I would like my no real read to become a real read, pls, I think I've done and said enough to get people to lean one way or another. But I also quoted this for another reason. HtS, why is it important that both you and Disfo are head scratching at that? It seems really strange that you'd try to buddy with anyone that way D1, unless you're trying to pocket him. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:53 ritoky wrote: no i meant you're giving effort based reads on HtS, yet you avoid giving effort based reads on say...me or ff. if you think x is town for doing y thing, and z and a are also doing y thing, why aren't z and a town for same reason? that's what i mean by inconsistent. Well FF's easy. I nailed scum FF in some game I can't talk about and I'm seeing a completely different FF here. That one was full of excuses and laziness D1, where FF here is relaxed, having fun but still pushing and engaging when here. I suppose I should've thrown that into the thread. And as for you, I don't know you or your meta. As far as this game goes, you have a lot of one liners and posts questioning and engaging the thread, while opining on active things in the thread. The interaction with me and Stutters. The Cel - Scott stuff. HtS reads. I can find just about everyone in your filter, which feels like a strong town. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:47 Stutters695 wrote: I know it's not too helpful but I'll be more around tonight as well. So after eod? =/ | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:54 The Shining wrote: I'll look into this, I thought it was strange that after that initial response from Tic regarding me, I don't see anything else regarding a read on me. I would like my no real read to become a real read, pls, I think I've done and said enough to get people to lean one way or another. But I also quoted this for another reason. HtS, why is it important that both you and Disfo are head scratching at that? It seems really strange that you'd try to buddy with anyone that way D1, unless you're trying to pocket him. HtS, when you get a chance, pls <3 | ||
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On May 01 2015 14:56 The Shining wrote: Oh we're doing pregame excuses? I play at work. I don't work Mondays-Tuesdays. Assuming I survive that long, if my activity drops drastically from Sunday night to Tuesday night, it's NAI. Skimmed from EoD up to now. Scott townflip really hurts but I'm not sure how we could have avoided that. Haven't had time to sit at my laptop for anything and trying to actively read 100+ posts on mobile is impossible. Looks like I'm prime d2 lynchbait so I'm going to actually take my time, reread and answer the questions and reads I was asked for. Not like I need to rush. No way scum kills me tonight when people are still scumming me. Yay me. | ||
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My thoughts are super scrambled and I'm not quoting anything because I'm on mobile and can't get on my tablet but I'm here and will be here the rest of the day. So pretty much everyone wants to see more from me or pressure me or vote me. D1, it annoyed me. Today, I can understand it. Prpl needs to show up. I've felt he could be scum(like everyone else who took my entrance srsly) and he hasn't done anything since. I couldn't have summarized Prpl better than Cel did if I tried. HtS is very slightly town. The analysis and pushes from her continue to get better as time goes on. Not shying away from her points, putting all thoughts in the thread. I think you asked me what the significance was when I asked you about Dis and you including him. As scum(& you've beat me before as scum, which), I know you're more than capable of convincing town you're one of us, which is why you're not strong town here. And it looked to me like you were trying to pocket a townDis by showing him you were mindmelding. Reading up to now, I don't see that being the case. I'm at work so I'll just be throwing reads into the thread as I keep reading, I'm filter diving today. If I missed your question or concern, it's probably better to quote it since I just read 200+ posts or wait until I get to your filter. | ||
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His defense seems a bit emotional but it isn't irrational and it's pretty understandable. He's directly firing back and responding to pressure. I don't think I can lynch him today. | ||
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On May 07 2015 05:39 y0su wrote: TS doesn't have any reads this game. I've posted that he's leaning scum but I'm still waiting for him to show up d2. since my was a while ago I guess I'll should update that he's slipped into prpl territory. I just called Super scum d1 for lols right? And sl was bad town instead of non-existent player. But that isn't a read either. I didn't mention anything about HtS returning to the thread and engaging with people, either, or my read on FF, which was before he died. I have no reads this game. You're not reading. So prpl and I are in the same territory. You have no comment on prpls first d1 being a negative comment on my entrance? We scum together or one of us is? | ||
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On May 07 2015 05:44 Half the Sky wrote: Yeh I prefer the case-based approach over conversational, but meh I can do either approach. You're lucky Trfel isn't in this game then. Looking forward to the rest of your reads. My cases are weak. I like conversational because upon filter diving, slips or lies said in passing and inconsistencies are good scumtells. You, Trfel, HtS together? Now that I see posting styles? /out lol | ||
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Ritoky still town btw. Me lynching prpl would be policy. I need to really read yosu, TT, Stutters. Because by poe, I have Cel, HtS, Ritoky, Super town. I think there's an active scum in there. The other 2 are deff between Yosu, TT, Stutters, Dis. And the fact I almost forgot Dis makes him prime suspect. | ||
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On May 07 2015 05:57 y0su wrote: So, what's your read on SL now? Honestly? Still bad town. Whether a mechanical argument is good or not, a townie is more likely to find this argument(especially since Superz meta supported it) and push it and run with it because that's what town does when they truly believe they caught scum. Outside of my take on that argument, I haven't read his filter recently, just remember that interaction when I was catching up so that's subject to change. | ||
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On May 07 2015 06:05 y0su wrote: Which interaction? SLs case about Super being scum over claiming RB, 75% chance, etc. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:53 ritoky wrote: no i meant you're giving effort based reads on HtS, yet you avoid giving effort based reads on say...me or ff. if you think x is town for doing y thing, and z and a are also doing y thing, why aren't z and a town for same reason? that's what i mean by inconsistent. You mean the same guy who mentioned looking fir inconsistencies early? Interesting that he wouldn't notice the inconsistency in attacking tone reads while having them himself. I'm moving him up on my filter list, bleh | ||
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