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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2015 18:45 GMT
#221
On April 22 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
I love that gifs are a thing this game.

I dunno....thoughts on damdred maybe?
I'm pretty underwhelmed.


i liked one and only one of his posts

-channels my inner artie-

free towncred if you can pick out which one!

This honestly annoys me.
Even more so when you consider you're being kind of hypocritical in not just telling me what I'm asking for.
I'll earn my own towncred thank you very much.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 18:51 GMT
#222
lol it's not hypocritical in the sense that i've provided a ton of opinions to the thread where you really haven't ^^ if you want to talk about damdred, let's talk about him, but i want to see your opinion fleshed out first
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 21 2015 19:01 GMT
#223
On April 22 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 14:28 Trfel wrote:
On April 21 2015 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:55 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:46 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

so you don't find it odd at all that he managed to enter with a post implying that he's town (via the stats comment) plus over-explaining what should be a joke-sheep of a joke-vote?

by over-explaining i mean:

[quote]

why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol ><

if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that


Ehh I disagree. I don't see it as that awkward or over explainy really. I didn't/don't really see it as awkward either. Nor do i really think that awkward always equals scum.


Do you think her reading into it in that way says anything about her alignment?


No because i can see how she would see it that way

I actually think it makes her slightly likelier to be town as I find it unlikely scum would go in against a tone read of another player right off the bat.


I have no way to prove this but i actually had it written that it was slightly townie because i find her to be a lot more neutral as scum

You get a tentative townread for this post. More free towncred to the first person to correctly point out why.
Mafia wouldn't bother with suggesting something and admitting that it can't be proved in the same post, this early on, when it doesn't matter like this. Right?

Pretty much. It's something that you have absolutely no reason to post as scum because it doesn't achieve anything, yet when you're town it's something you may say because it was in the back of your mind, a very human response. Actually having thought about it, I could see scum saying it, but I do think it's a lot likelier from town.

Arsoul, why is it bad that someone else explains something I've pinged?


so i can't decide which is more boring here, the fact that if you're taking me seriously the obvious is escaping you, or the fact that if you're taking me seriously in my posts to mostly inactive trfel you're already wrong xP

you've got nothing more interesting to talk about?

I figured it was a comment that had some seriosity to it but was also meant as a joke. Also, most of your post was talking about reads which I presumed was quite serious.

As for more interesting things to talk about, not many interesting things have happened so far. As for Damdred, slight town lean on him for confidence, something I think Toad pointed out as a towntell for him in Imperial (though Toad was mafia there, I don't think he was trying to misguide me as he was giving a townread on a townie). His reads post was kinda weird but meh, early Damdred tends to be weird.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2015 19:03 GMT
#224
That's fair I suppose.
So...list post is list post, whatever.
It's the huge post after that which (to me) obviously looks kinda terrible.
He goes out of his way to make a huge deal out of what he's attempting to do, and in the end it's just a glorified rehashing of everything that's been said in thread thus far. The post on BH at the end isn't bad necessarily because it shows just a little bit of insight (even if it's solely based on meta) but then why does he call BH scum and then say it's a policy lynch?

I think overall my problem with Damdred here is he makes a big deal over an extremely mediocre reads post with rehashed explanations, and even his 'scum' read isn't one entirely. It's like going a big long way to say "HEY LOOK AT MY READS EVERYONE" and then he doesn't even have anything to go with. Very forced effort + no real reads = scummy.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 19:14 GMT
#225
On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
Well those are EXCELLENT questions you seem to be some form of medium that has stolen these very thoughts from the inside of my head!

Now bh is an interesting case as I'm sure he will come into the thread at a later time and hive some form of excuse of his absence for the first however many hours. But as always his scum meta is to do as little as possible and scrape by on fabrications and afking. And as such him being gone is scummy espe ially while he is active elsewhere.

This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town.

Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm.

Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level.

great questions


i actually thought this was his only not terrible post...he reiterated what was already being said about you (wave), but everything else except maybe the part on breshke (which was so generic i find myself getting glassy-eyed reading it) was at least a different perspective than some of the others brought to the thread

plus the sarcasm just makes me feel better about him in general xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 21 2015 19:15 GMT
#226
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 19:17 GMT
#227
i see what you're saying about going back and saying his only scumread is a plynch, though

@artie

lol if i've got a scale from 0-100 with 100 being SUPER!TOWN and 0 being claimed scum, truffle is riding at a 48 (minus 2 townie points)

it's kinda serious but not enough to lynch him for. truffle is one player i know very well and am confident i can read once he starts actually doing something, which he really hasn't yet
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2015 19:19 GMT
#228
On April 22 2015 04:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
Well those are EXCELLENT questions you seem to be some form of medium that has stolen these very thoughts from the inside of my head!

Now bh is an interesting case as I'm sure he will come into the thread at a later time and hive some form of excuse of his absence for the first however many hours. But as always his scum meta is to do as little as possible and scrape by on fabrications and afking. And as such him being gone is scummy espe ially while he is active elsewhere.

This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town.

Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm.

Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level.

great questions


i actually thought this was his only not terrible post...he reiterated what was already being said about you (wave), but everything else except maybe the part on breshke (which was so generic i find myself getting glassy-eyed reading it) was at least a different perspective than some of the others brought to the thread

plus the sarcasm just makes me feel better about him in general xP

I mean I guess I overexaggerate the rehashing EVERYTHING because the trfel thing is kinda relevant I suppose so I sort of see what you mean, but the BH things looks super weird because he talks a bunch about him and leaves off with an extremely weak conclusion. And yeah Breshke/me reads.

As far as the sarcasm thing, I really don't put any stock into meta reads anymore whatsoever so I'm afraid I don't really take it into account.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 21 2015 19:19 GMT
#229
@Arsoul

Now you make it sound like your comment was in fact serious. What is scummy about what Trfel did there?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2015 19:21 GMT
#230
On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case.

Same thing as per to rsoultin above; no stick in meta reads so that's all the same to me.

Is it weird that I've come to expect Palmar being Palmar and was curious as to you prodding him for vote reasoning?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2015 19:22 GMT
#231
EBWOP: No stock*

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 19:23 GMT
#232
On April 22 2015 04:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
@Arsoul

Now you make it sound like your comment was in fact serious. What is scummy about what Trfel did there?


lol honestly it's a meta-tone thing that i've just had such great luck explaining in the past, so i'm not going to bother unless the curiosity is just eating you up inside. i'm not even sure that it makes him scum. i just don't see town!truffle in his posting yet
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 21 2015 19:23 GMT
#233
On April 22 2015 04:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case.

Same thing as per to rsoultin above; no stick in meta reads so that's all the same to me.

Is it weird that I've come to expect Palmar being Palmar and was curious as to you prodding him for vote reasoning?

Palmar seemed to suggest he did have a reason for voting you, so getting it out seems like a good idea.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2015 19:28 GMT
#234
On April 22 2015 04:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 04:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case.

Same thing as per to rsoultin above; no stick in meta reads so that's all the same to me.

Is it weird that I've come to expect Palmar being Palmar and was curious as to you prodding him for vote reasoning?

Palmar seemed to suggest he did have a reason for voting you, so getting it out seems like a good idea.

I'm surprised you got anything tbh.
And yeah I dunno if I see anything scummy in Trfel's posting either although the question about you Artanis did look a little 'testing the waters' to me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 19:32 GMT
#235
Maybe some of it was rehashed I can't remember honestly ^^. But keep talking about me its good to have a new focal point today
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 19:39 GMT
#236
On April 21 2015 14:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##vote: waveofshadow
I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch.
##Vote WaveofShadow


why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol ><

if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that
On the contrary, that's the sentence that makes the joke. It's weak without it.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:55 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:46 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:34 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

lol seriously? xP


Yeah haha all jokes aside in my limited experiance with art ive never seen him mention stats before so him referencing town stats and relating it to this game just seems like a weird way for a scum artanis to open.

This is obviously very weak hence the tentative part.


so you don't find it odd at all that he managed to enter with a post implying that he's town (via the stats comment) plus over-explaining what should be a joke-sheep of a joke-vote?

by over-explaining i mean:

On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##vote: waveofshadow
I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch.
##Vote WaveofShadow


why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol ><

if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that


Ehh I disagree. I don't see it as that awkward or over explainy really. I didn't/don't really see it as awkward either. Nor do i really think that awkward always equals scum.


Do you think her reading into it in that way says anything about her alignment?


No because i can see how she would see it that way

I actually think it makes her slightly likelier to be town as I find it unlikely scum would go in against a tone read of another player right off the bat.


I have no way to prove this but i actually had it written that it was slightly townie because i find her to be a lot more neutral as scum

You get a tentative townread for this post. More free towncred to the first person to correctly point out why.
Mafia wouldn't bother with suggesting something and admitting that it can't be proved in the same post, this early on, when it doesn't matter like this. Right?

I find it extremely surprising how WaveofShadow reacted to Breshke's vote. As if the third vote is any scummier than the first two on a joke wagon. It just means that Breshke didn't think of it first, that's all. I'm hoping that he did this to generate discussion. However, it seems that WaveofShadow didn't realize that votes are only counted every 24 hours. I suppose his play makes sense with this in mind.

I actually think that this makes WaveofShadow likely to be town, as mafia would have realized this via the scum QT (which you bet he would be checking this early in the game, and with three votes on him). Of course he could fake it anyway, but his posts seem genuine enough (including the frustrated tone), so I kind of doubt that this is the case. And this also falls apart if his partner is inactive. Still, I see this more as a town play. He feels frustrated, not panicked. And trying to make the most of the situation, not trying to save himself.
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:
lol i thought he was mocking truffle with his post :/ that would have been so clever
Not really, mocking me is quite easy. You've proved this time and time again.

WaveofShadow's play does show some inconsistencies (minor), and some things that don't make sense. But I see them being in line with him being flustered over the opening. If this continues, though, perhaps more suspicion is warranted.

Town read on rsoultin just because making a strong townread on her early in the game is super popular
+ Show Spoiler +
Not a strong townread, but she immediately started the game by aggressively discussing and pointing things out. I don't think that rsoultin would have played like this, she would have been more content to let yamato77 and WaveofShadow fight. Plus, toneread. Hence, town lean.
.

+ Show Spoiler [to rsoultin] +
I wonder how long it will take you to learn the patterns of my entrance posts. And no, it's not a "hello world" program. We haven't learned to output two words yet, so it's just a "hello" program. To be honest, I'm stuck on step 1: turn the computer on.


alright, lol fine...i'll talk about his only post with any content to speak of xP

- he's simply wrong about the artie post zzzzz not-alignment-indicative, but that he feels the need to comment at all, don't know why. he doesn't go on to say his own read on artie, just that he doesn't agree with my comment

- WoS read is all fucking over the place, first it's surprising, then he's like disappointed or something wave simply wasn't reading, onto townlean, oh wait there were some inconsistencies so maybe not? there is no focus in this read at all, and he basically just summarized everything everyone else said about wave

- townread on me blah. already said why i don't find that alignment indicative like ever. i'm obv town, everyone (or almost everyone) has noted it, say something interesting

- that leaves his only real contribution his answer to you, art...the free towncred post

so like i said, not seeing a town!truffle in his posting. he looks like he's struggling to find something to say
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 21 2015 19:48 GMT
#237
Votecount 1.2


WaveofShadow(2)-yamato77, Palmar
Damdred(1)-rsoultin
Breshke(1)-WaveofShadow
Blazinghand(1)-Damdred



a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 21 2015 19:49 GMT
#238
Oh, forgot I was voting anyone.
##unvote
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 19:57 GMT
#239
so no one wants to talk about truffle's post, hm? xP

[b]##unvote[b]
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 19:58 GMT
#240
On April 22 2015 04:57 rsoultin wrote:
so no one wants to talk about truffle's post, hm? xP

##unvote


yay for coding fails -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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