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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 21 2015 04:15 GMT
#181
THE FIRST VOTE COUNT


WaveofShadow(2)-yamato77, Artanis[Xp],
Damdred(1)-rsoultin
Breshke(1)-WaveofShadow
Blazinghand(1)-Damdred


Try TL Mafia!!!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 04:21 GMT
#182
I'll play don't worry. I do think bh is scum though.

I'll weigh in on a poe list soonish
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 21 2015 04:37 GMT
#183
I await your reads with bated breath
Writer@WriterYamato
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 21 2015 04:38 GMT
#184
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twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 05:06 GMT
#185
Wouldn't Lynch Ever
Damdred

Wouldn't lynch probably
Rsoultin
Breshke

I like you will you come over later?
Yamato

Who are you and what did you do with who I used to know
Artanis

Why are you ignoring us all: would probably lynch
Trfel

Probably Would vote for
Wave of shadow

Must be scum
Blazinghand

Must Be Palmar
palmar

This is sorta a silly list post if anyone has any questions just ask i'll answer it when i'm around and not asleep
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 21 2015 05:28 GMT
#186
On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##vote: waveofshadow
I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch.
##Vote WaveofShadow


why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol ><

if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that
On the contrary, that's the sentence that makes the joke. It's weak without it.

On April 21 2015 10:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:55 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:46 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:34 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 21 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote:
[quote]

tentative town read for this post.


lol seriously? xP


Yeah haha all jokes aside in my limited experiance with art ive never seen him mention stats before so him referencing town stats and relating it to this game just seems like a weird way for a scum artanis to open.

This is obviously very weak hence the tentative part.


so you don't find it odd at all that he managed to enter with a post implying that he's town (via the stats comment) plus over-explaining what should be a joke-sheep of a joke-vote?

by over-explaining i mean:

On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##vote: waveofshadow
I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch.
##Vote WaveofShadow


why even include the bolded sentence when it's clear in the first lol ><

if anything that deserves a light scum lean, not a light town lean fitting awkwardly into the joking phase like that


Ehh I disagree. I don't see it as that awkward or over explainy really. I didn't/don't really see it as awkward either. Nor do i really think that awkward always equals scum.


Do you think her reading into it in that way says anything about her alignment?


No because i can see how she would see it that way

I actually think it makes her slightly likelier to be town as I find it unlikely scum would go in against a tone read of another player right off the bat.


I have no way to prove this but i actually had it written that it was slightly townie because i find her to be a lot more neutral as scum

You get a tentative townread for this post. More free towncred to the first person to correctly point out why.
Mafia wouldn't bother with suggesting something and admitting that it can't be proved in the same post, this early on, when it doesn't matter like this. Right?

I find it extremely surprising how WaveofShadow reacted to Breshke's vote. As if the third vote is any scummier than the first two on a joke wagon. It just means that Breshke didn't think of it first, that's all. I'm hoping that he did this to generate discussion. However, it seems that WaveofShadow didn't realize that votes are only counted every 24 hours. I suppose his play makes sense with this in mind.

I actually think that this makes WaveofShadow likely to be town, as mafia would have realized this via the scum QT (which you bet he would be checking this early in the game, and with three votes on him). Of course he could fake it anyway, but his posts seem genuine enough (including the frustrated tone), so I kind of doubt that this is the case. And this also falls apart if his partner is inactive. Still, I see this more as a town play. He feels frustrated, not panicked. And trying to make the most of the situation, not trying to save himself.
On April 21 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:
lol i thought he was mocking truffle with his post :/ that would have been so clever
Not really, mocking me is quite easy. You've proved this time and time again.

WaveofShadow's play does show some inconsistencies (minor), and some things that don't make sense. But I see them being in line with him being flustered over the opening. If this continues, though, perhaps more suspicion is warranted.

Town read on rsoultin just because making a strong townread on her early in the game is super popular
+ Show Spoiler +
Not a strong townread, but she immediately started the game by aggressively discussing and pointing things out. I don't think that rsoultin would have played like this, she would have been more content to let yamato77 and WaveofShadow fight. Plus, toneread. Hence, town lean.
.

+ Show Spoiler [to rsoultin] +
I wonder how long it will take you to learn the patterns of my entrance posts. And no, it's not a "hello world" program. We haven't learned to output two words yet, so it's just a "hello" program. To be honest, I'm stuck on step 1: turn the computer on.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 05:36 GMT
#187
lol i agree on WoS now that he's explained in a way that i can follow >>

and yes, townreading me is super popular always xD so you get no points for that -slaps wrist-

disagree on artie. bite me xP

also:

-1 town point for trying to get free towncred from artie

that is -2 now truffle :0

meeeeeh@damdy's list post

i don't even know where to begin to ask questions about reads with no (or almost no) explanation so...just meh. the boredom is real :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 06:04 GMT
#188
Never know till you try
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 06:09 GMT
#189
For example you are just rsoultin and just being aggrivating when the obvious questions are sitting right in front of you for example.

1) why is bh scum instead of null? Shouldn't trfel be in the same sort of zone prior to the big post?
2) what about wave has him down so far? Why is breshke so high?

all are valid questions left unasked sadly
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 21 2015 06:11 GMT
#190
Hey damdred I see your list post and have some questions for you.

1) why is bh scum instead of null? Shouldn't trfel be in the same sort of zone prior to the big post?
2) what about wave has him down so far? Why is breshke so high?

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 21 2015 06:12 GMT
#191
On April 21 2015 12:46 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 12:45 Breshke wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:38 rsoultin wrote:
lol you just quoted the reason i'm questioning wave, breshke, and yet you ask?

the points you brought up in your post are the same ones that i don't care about...also in what you just quoted

kinda obvious there, bresh


Idk somethings lost on me here but i dont see how you cant care about the context of his reads with him thinking it was IML but then wanting to know why the yamato and artanis read was different.

Anyway I don't really care about this stuff because i don't think it says that much about waves alignment.

so you don't have a read on him, but you're intervening on his behalf.

mmmmmmmk.


Yeah this is part of the reason I peaced. I just didn't think the reasons that you two were calling him scum actually made him scum so i felt the need to get involved when its probs better if i just let it play out for a bit.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 21 2015 06:14 GMT
#192
On April 21 2015 15:11 Breshke wrote:
Hey damdred I see your list post and have some questions for you.

1) why is bh scum instead of null? Shouldn't trfel be in the same sort of zone prior to the big post?
2) what about wave has him down so far? Why is breshke so high?



I realize this might have of as sarcastic or something but im really interested in 1 especially since it seems you have an actual reason.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 06:20 GMT
#193
you know, at some point this lumping me in with yamato when i clearly was interested in another point entirely is going to annoy me breeeeeshke ^^

hint: that point is probably already past

damdy, if you already know the failings in your own list post (and your intent was to get people to react to it so you could help figure out alignments) pointing out the questions defeats that purpose and you should simply address the failure. i've no interest in cooperating with an uncooperative stick-in-the-mud ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 06:20 GMT
#194
Well those are EXCELLENT questions you seem to be some form of medium that has stolen these very thoughts from the inside of my head!

Now bh is an interesting case as I'm sure he will come into the thread at a later time and hive some form of excuse of his absence for the first however many hours. But as always his scum meta is to do as little as possible and scrape by on fabrications and afking. And as such him being gone is scummy espe ially while he is active elsewhere.

This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town.

Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm.

Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level.

great questions
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 06:24 GMT
#195
On April 21 2015 15:20 Damdred wrote:
Well those are EXCELLENT questions you seem to be some form of medium that has stolen these very thoughts from the inside of my head!

Now bh is an interesting case as I'm sure he will come into the thread at a later time and hive some form of excuse of his absence for the first however many hours. But as always his scum meta is to do as little as possible and scrape by on fabrications and afking. And as such him being gone is scummy espe ially while he is active elsewhere.

This part is a bit trickier, trfel as scum in my experience likes to be in the thick of the action trying to shape other peoples reads and causing subtle confusions. Very unlike bh scum game which is more behind the scenes, besides trfels last bit post who h was ok that puts him more towards the bottom of null rather than town.

Breshke is one of the greatest forces of good in the thread amen. Has some of the highest activity good thoughts questions and interacting with everyone he can. Really good town atm.

Look at the strange uneveness that wave uses between arts is and Yamato for instance it caught my eye pretty fast. He is perfectly fine with art and gives art a town lean(later on) for the way he voted for him even if it was silly. Really strange reactions and slight jnconsitincies in how he is playing and interacting push him to this level.

great questions


so you're not satisfied with his explanation at the bottom of the previous page? mind saying why not?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 21 2015 06:25 GMT
#196
On April 21 2015 15:20 rsoultin wrote:
you know, at some point this lumping me in with yamato when i clearly was interested in another point entirely is going to annoy me breeeeeshke ^^

hint: that point is probably already past

damdy, if you already know the failings in your own list post (and your intent was to get people to react to it so you could help figure out alignments) pointing out the questions defeats that purpose and you should simply address the failure. i've no interest in cooperating with an uncooperative stick-in-the-mud ^^


Nah i didn't mean same reasons I just ment i probably shouldn't have got involved with either of your bits.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 06:26 GMT
#197
How can you be satisfied with such a drastic over reaction? Arts is is a great player who sheeped onto what at that point in time a joke vote with a seemingly joke phrase and vote. And wave gives this as a response I don't buy it at all, its over explaining and not really saying anything
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 21 2015 06:29 GMT
#198
On April 21 2015 15:26 Damdred wrote:
How can you be satisfied with such a drastic over reaction? Arts is is a great player who sheeped onto what at that point in time a joke vote with a seemingly joke phrase and vote. And wave gives this as a response I don't buy it at all, its over explaining and not really saying anything


the overreaction is explained by not understanding the lynch mechanic xP and he wasn't the only one who didn't understand it daaaaamdy

as for the artie vs. yama thing...i don't agree with the analysis but i don't think wrong = scum lol >< and can see how he arrived at the conclusion now that he's explained it

do you have a specific example(s) of the bh meta you were referring to?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 06:29 GMT
#199
Literally it might be one of the worst reasons to town read someone ever. Do scum never do pressure votes or joke votes and then not do much else?

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2015 06:31 GMT
#200
Cell mafia. Apeture to name two off the top of my head.

compare activity levels especially with his town games and it gets pretty drastic honestly.

Bur it is a plymch currently at that
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