Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal

On March 25 2015 07:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Your gossip flows like water. I am the mighty salmon that swims against the stream. I defy you.

On March 28 2015 08:27 Sepulchre wrote:
Finding mafia would be a plus, but seems secondary.

On March 28 2015 11:30 Sepulchre wrote:

Well that's the best campaign platform I've seen so far, at least.


LightningStrike, in addition to comparing the meta of completely different people being a rather poor idea, I'm farily certain you're also confusing rsoultin for rikoty.

On March 28 2015 10:09 batsnacks wrote:


This is backwards. People should vote me so I can lynch this person.

On March 29 2015 01:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
I remember not liking exo btw

Think it was him just saying general shit that has no bearing on anything

On March 28 2015 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
I think we're getting a bit distracted. The little squabble HF/Rsoultin is having isn't being productive right now. And while it's important to find scum I think it's more important to focus on who we're electing today. It's a bit rough right now since this game seems to really be off to a slow star and we've yet to here from a lot of people.

On March 28 2015 21:13 ExO_ wrote:


You could argue it's the same thing, but you need to find town more than mafia (for this particular day 1 setup). 3 really townie people specifically. I'd say its easier and more important to focus on finding and electing the 3 most townie people.

In my opinion getting really solid reads on scum is damn near impossible on day 1. It's a crapshoot of people spewing meta reads and bullshit. However I think certain people almost always stick out as super townie. Right now I'm not seeing the super town people. So until I think we're in the right direction as far getting townies elected that's what I'm going to focus on.

On March 29 2015 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
HF play SG with me later. Otherwise I'll end up playing Hots or some shit.

Also somebody talk with me a little about something

On March 29 2015 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't do more than just exist while at work really. I just feel like socializing.

Let's see
Wouldn't lynch Hapa cause he just hasn't done enough to call him out I mean maybe that's on purpose because he knows he's easy to read when he does post?
Kita I can never read.

Bats what did you say?

And yeah if you're on later I'll play Hots SG or voice whatever. Last night when I got back everyone was playing resistance which I don't like much

On March 29 2015 02:57 Keirathi wrote:
Just woke up and reading through the thread....

What the fuck, how can people actually think ExO_ is scum? That's the most baffling thing in the thread so far.

On March 29 2015 03:10 Keirathi wrote:

It's not even about townreading/joint-running with me.

It's posts like this:



1) He calls VE out on the bullshit
2) He's in the thread intentionally focusing attention on himself. He's never played scum before. What first time newbie scum does that in a large themed game?

There's like 0.01% chance that guy is scum.

On March 29 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote:
VE: There's basically no way a scum ExO made that post I was talking about. Scum marv/rayn/hf/jat? Absolutely. But look at all of his other posts. That's the only post where he's being snarky, everything else is him posting cautiously/carefully.

Hmm...how to say what I'm trying to say...

Basically, in general if people are posting cautiously/carefully as scum, they don't suddenly break out into snark-mode just to poke at one of the vets. I find it very, very unlikely that ExO_ did that "just to find something to call out" as you put it.

On March 29 2015 07:04 Keirathi wrote:







Basically he's just hiding around the sidelines saying soft/safe/obvious things. It's all very different from that one post where he called VE out.

On March 29 2015 07:25 ExO_ wrote:


I had a lot of fun posting the fallout propaganda. And yeah I'd love it if somebody said "that was cool, I'll elect ExO over it". But I wasn't honestly expecting it. That being said:

Are you kidding me? ofc I want mayor (or warrior/rogue/cleric in this case). No offense, but I trust myself more than anybody else here. I'm not in the "TL mafia cool kids club" so me getting elected is practically impossible, but that's not gonna stop me from at least trying to get mayor. I agree with doing a community vote, and getting people elected who are going to do what the entire town wants. I know I'll follow it. But half the people here in TL mafia think they are the smartest people in the world and won't do what the majority wants because "they know better".

On March 29 2015 07:45 ExO_ wrote:


Which part of my gameplan? I think the only thing I've said is I believe it's more important to find 3 town right now because that's who we are voting for. And I stand by that. Like I know there's a lot of egos in here that need to prove they can find scum on day 1, but a lot of day 1 reads are based on crap. There hasn't been a single case I've read yet that makes me go "yep that's super scummy".

However I think by the end of day 1 I'll have a pretty good idea of 3 people out of 27 that are really oozing town. So that's what I'm more interested in. Does that mean I think we shouldn't scum hunt? No, the scum discussion help reveal who is town who isn't. As I said earlier, scum hunting and figuring out who is town is kinda the same thing to a certain extent. But as town we need to be more focused on making sure the right people get elected today. Because that's what the votes are for today.

On March 30 2015 00:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I hard claimed Commissioner Gordon earlier idk how did you not see it -.-

On March 30 2015 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Why not?

I figured I was going to vote him at the end of the day anyways, so.

On March 30 2015 01:02 Holyflare wrote:


what..............?

if you think i'm mafia I shouldn't have any powers, it should be pretty easy to tell if i'm mafia based on my reads, don't post this cop out crap

On March 30 2015 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
nah i do want to be warrior I made that clear now, if i'm not being scum read you should want me as the person deciding your lynch, it's not like i'm going to do anything other than poe and discuss it down anyway

On March 30 2015 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
hapa/bh most probably

Not Voting (21): justanothertownie, Keirathi, Damdred, LightningStrike, Alakaslam, Crossfire99, HalftheSky, Chezitwo, Hapahauli, Blazinghand, yamato77, ritoky, kitaman27, ObiWanShinobi

On March 30 2015 02:40 VisceraEyes wrote:

So basically vote for VE's best case in the thread, VE lynches Snarfs the mafia, and everyone goes home happy, yeah?

On March 30 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote:


who do you want to lynch, bats?

On March 30 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote:
do we want sicklucker? cause i can vote for HF assuming he's already submitted that

On March 30 2015 23:45 Half the Sky wrote:


My mistake, I'd forgotten about the BH claim when I was going through the filter. HF's filter seemed jumpy just reading it though, even leaving BH out of the argument I was trying to connect his thought process from going from hapa to sl.

On March 30 2015 23:56 rsoultin wrote:


i'm amazingly awesome and female xP will this be the fun sorta questioning? you sent me <3s bats >> i think you run a secret underground business of ill repute with unwilling women

ze eeeevilness

that or i may still be slightly tipsy from last night after celebrating my VICTORY lolol

On March 31 2015 00:17 Koshi wrote:

Which 3? HF picked sl. He was town. So? I don't know what you are saying.
Do you townread Snarfs? Why?

On March 31 2015 06:22 Keirathi wrote:

Isn't that exactly what I just said I was going to do?? :o

On March 31 2015 19:56 Koshi wrote:
It's ok. You are mafia.

On March 31 2015 21:30 Half the Sky wrote:


Do you think it has something to do with the fact he doesn't have much experience with some of the playerbase on TL, including you? When he's town, he doesn't post much but at the same time, he hasn't given much insight at all this game.

On March 31 2015 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Well ExO didn't like JAT D1, but I don't recall him really pushing JAT too hard. I definitely agree that he's fallen off since the initial campaign.

Sepulchre seems to be trying to figure out the mechanics which counts for a slight town lean in this type of game, and ExO isn't even doing that. Which is the difference to me, and the answer to your question Bats.

On April 01 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
Bats talk to me. You told us exo lost his passion after day 1 and has no scum reads bla bla. So what exactly are you talking about in pm's that he responds so quickly to that you still want to lynch him for?

On April 01 2015 05:51 rsoultin wrote:


bats love is scary o.0

why have i received no bats pms? >> i feel safe unloved

On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?

On April 01 2015 08:51 justanothertownie wrote:

Yes, learn to read please.

On April 01 2015 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
going to steal slam's vote tomorrow just incase of any more glados bullshit.

On April 01 2015 10:56 ExO_ wrote:


My role has a lot of shit going on with it. I thought I could hand it out to anybody on the list, it only goes to slot 1. My role does specify this, but in keeping up with everything else going on with it I overlooked it.

If I'm scum I have no incentive to come in here and inform all of you about this. I'm trying to help, especially considering I was gone for like 24 hours

On April 02 2015 08:36 Damdred wrote:
I have 24 hours to make my decision, just wanted to play for a bit more and try to find scum and help town before I leave

On April 02 2015 09:08 Half the Sky wrote:


Associative reads? If you don't like Damdred, why are you voting for me and not Damdred?

On April 02 2015 09:16 kitaman27 wrote:


Did you ask what reputation means at any point?

On April 02 2015 09:20 kitaman27 wrote:


May I suggest asking?

On April 02 2015 09:20 kitaman27 wrote:


May I suggest asking?

On April 02 2015 09:28 Half the Sky wrote:


Bats, you didn't answer the question. So let's try again.

On April 02 2015 09:37 Keirathi wrote:

Maybe you should try explaining why she's scum if you want people to vote her. Just sayin'.

You haven't mentioned her all game but day starts and suddenly shes your 100% lynch target instead of people like ExO and Sepulchre who you've wanted to lynch all game?

On April 02 2015 09:50 Keirathi wrote:
At the VERY LEAST, you should know that that means kita has a "bad reputation", whatever that means.

Why aren't you trying to figure it out and just ignoring it?

On April 02 2015 09:56 kitaman27 wrote:


If you have an item whose only purpose you can understand is to block players from using PMs and whose investigative results mean nothing, why are you even using it?

On April 02 2015 10:01 Keirathi wrote:

My point is that even if I didn't have any clue what "bad reputation" meant exactly in this game, but I had that item and got those results, I would still immediately be super suspicious of kita and be trying to figure out whether that meant he was scum. Not just ignoring the "bad reputation" check.

But fine, we'll come at this from a different angle.

What do you think of kita? And I dont just mean "he's town" or "he's scum". Some reasoning, please.

On April 02 2015 10:19 Keirathi wrote:

Playing devil's advocate:

If we assume that kita is scum, then that post looks a lot like "discredit HF so I can get voted into the party instead", yes?

On April 02 2015 12:26 kitaman27 wrote:

What do you think about VA, xfire and snarfs in general?

On April 02 2015 09:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
I stole Slam's vote as my night action which i will confirm now.

##vote alakaslam

On April 03 2015 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't know if I think this question is extremely scummy or somewhat towny.

On April 03 2015 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:

Do you think attacking the most obvious townie in the game for not being all gung ho today is doing anything? I don't give the slightest fuck if you aren't content with my gameplay.

On April 03 2015 03:45 Alakaslam wrote:
neuromancer

On April 03 2015 09:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Any questions though BH (or anyone), just shoot in the meantime.

On April 04 2015 04:23 justanothertownie wrote:

I seriously hope this doesn't do anything.

On April 04 2015 05:08 justanothertownie wrote:

Which is a pretty dumb move btw. but hey.

On April 04 2015 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:

Why do you assume this?

On April 04 2015 05:32 justanothertownie wrote:

So?

On April 04 2015 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:

Even if I trusted you in the slightest I would not be able to use your item today since I already used the lurker spikes.

On April 04 2015 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah?

On April 04 2015 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
what if damdred is 3p with a partial victory and him getting lynch enables mafia win :O :O

On April 04 2015 06:43 Holyflare wrote:


can abort? lol

On April 04 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
There has been plenty resistance before he claimed scum.

On April 04 2015 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Look, whoever is town in this game will vote damdred. This majority lynch. Even if you don't agree with the target because you are stupid or for whatever other reason you will never get a majority on someone else until deadline so FUCKING VOTE DAMDRED AND KEEP IT THERE.

On April 04 2015 08:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, not only did he annoy me with these fake ass lurker spikes - how come HE IS THE ONE HANDING OUT SOULFRAGMENTS? What's up with that batsnacks?

On April 05 2015 08:53 Holyflare wrote:
btw batsnacks did claim mafia to me

On April 05 2015 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
batsnacks: wut is win condition
hf: win with any alignment
bat: you legit surv?
hf: yeh with check so i know who to ally with, i know u mafia
bats: wut role?
hf: <claims role/pwer>
bat: boring, u got vest too?
hf: yeh, y u care? not gonna do anything but afk anyway dont bother nking me

---

bats: know who got healing powers/protection?
hf: no they shunned me
bats: tell me if you find out

On April 05 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
i must be playing the mafia game of the century to just afk as mafia and not be involved in any pm's whatsoever yet still roll over all of town this hard

On April 05 2015 09:20 justanothertownie wrote:

- Not similar but exactly the same.
- Your other supposed item also conveniently ended up at damdred.
- You did not die tonight.
- Holyflare says you claimed mafia to him. He is either telling the truth or bussing you.

On April 05 2015 09:25 justanothertownie wrote:

I never said I think MAFIA would have shot you.

On April 05 2015 09:36 justanothertownie wrote:

No, you have been mafia by poe even before and this just seals the deal.

On April 05 2015 09:39 justanothertownie wrote:

Sure, if you catch some mafia before you are dead.

On April 05 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, then you have a good motivation to do really well!

On April 05 2015 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:

If you are town you fucked up hardcore last night. What's with all those idiots not sharing their information with me in this game... we might lose just because of shit like this.

On April 06 2015 09:10 Holyflare wrote:
if you're town you absolutely HAVE to vote for confirmed mafia batsnacks otherwise we lose

On April 06 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
well i don't really care batsnacks you gotta vote bh with me regardless

On April 06 2015 12:45 Crossfire99 wrote:

Cause we can all trust a vote count by pms...

On April 06 2015 12:46 Holyflare wrote:
i have a red check dude i don't see the problem, if you think i'm mafia then you need to explain how i have double the filter size of any mafia game i've ever played while not even playing in this game really at all

On April 06 2015 13:04 Crossfire99 wrote:

I know LOL. But that's how confident I am in HtS being mafia though LOL. Like how is she not mafia. Someone explain haha.

On April 06 2015 13:07 Crossfire99 wrote:

The red check means nothing because it's coming from you who said JAT and I were mafia. You also said you poisoned me. None of those things are true.

On April 06 2015 13:10 Crossfire99 wrote:

I know with 100% certainty that no one in this game is a VT. I've hosted and created games with GreY before. All his games give all players roles because he wants all players to share in the fun of having crazy roles. He learned this after Aperture 1.

On April 06 2015 13:13 Crossfire99 wrote:

It's true though. Dat host meta knowledge.

On April 07 2015 05:42 Half the Sky wrote:


I also think it's pointless but at least three people are trying to lynch me for it. It's astonishing really.

Crossfire probably doesn't know how to read me, first encounter with him, I'll give him town points for trying to understand my rationale on Trfel. The rest of them who have played with me and know how scummy my town play can be have no excuse.

On April 07 2015 05:47 kitaman27 wrote:


Actually, know that I think about it, I haven't even really done that.

On April 07 2015 08:17 Onegu wrote:
I have a vigi shot and VA can shoot bats so we maybe able to trade 2 town for 2 scum

On April 07 2015 10:24 Onegu wrote:
Also bats told me to shoot him lol

On April 07 2015 10:37 Onegu wrote:


Onegu: why shouldn't I shoot you

Batsnacks: I'm mod confirmed scum you should if you want to win...