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On March 29 2015 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 12:13 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2015 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 12:08 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2015 12:07 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 12:05 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2015 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2015 11:58 LightningStrike wrote:
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Because you should know I not Mafia esp on my push on rsoultin because I never push that hard as Mafia that early. answer my question please ^^ the simple fact that you know that you don't do that as scum, and that your "why hasn't rsoul posted yet" post gives the feel of you lying in wait for me like a nasty little predator negates this whole point entirely, you know progression of your read I thinking your town now based on your later posting but I thought it was weird you weren't posting while playing Voice Mafia like I was (esp when I was dead for a few games) why do you think i'm town? what about my later posting gave you that HALLELUJAH, EUREKA chorus, mm? Your reactions to my push on you and your interactions with Damdred and others. Your stance on me is Mafia or Town? null the fact that you were pushing anyone at all seemed townie, how you went about it was uber sketchy to me scumreads? Possibly Koshi his play so far seems so lackluster compared to his last couple town games and he was absolutely useless as Mafia in Horns which I seeing a little bit of his lackluster from there in this game. So far he's my only real scumread if any at all. Also you know I never pushed people that hard that early as scum (JOAT and Student IV) so it should be a sign I am town -.- wat How is Koshi being useless right now? You could argue that he is being unreasonable at times but the difference between his play here and Horn is night and day. He being extremely whiny which I have never seen him be that whiny about non sense stuff that aint setup balance and he just throwing random scumreads everywhere and not explaining his scumreads. You must be new here.
I been playing TL Mafia since October I think (First game was Campus Mafia when I got lynched as a fucking Cop who got counterclaimed by a VT and asked if Detective = Cop in the thread and the people still lynched me like idiots -.-)
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meh
if you're town LS, read XXX
^ very good example of town koshi
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On March 29 2015 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 12:13 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2015 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 12:08 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2015 12:07 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 12:05 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2015 12:01 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2015 11:58 LightningStrike wrote:On March 29 2015 11:56 Holyflare wrote:
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I fail to see how anything I've said is incoherent or incomprehensible. Because you should know I not Mafia esp on my push on rsoultin because I never push that hard as Mafia that early. answer my question please ^^ the simple fact that you know that you don't do that as scum, and that your "why hasn't rsoul posted yet" post gives the feel of you lying in wait for me like a nasty little predator negates this whole point entirely, you know progression of your read I thinking your town now based on your later posting but I thought it was weird you weren't posting while playing Voice Mafia like I was (esp when I was dead for a few games) why do you think i'm town? what about my later posting gave you that HALLELUJAH, EUREKA chorus, mm? Your reactions to my push on you and your interactions with Damdred and others. Your stance on me is Mafia or Town? null the fact that you were pushing anyone at all seemed townie, how you went about it was uber sketchy to me scumreads? Possibly Koshi his play so far seems so lackluster compared to his last couple town games and he was absolutely useless as Mafia in Horns which I seeing a little bit of his lackluster from there in this game. So far he's my only real scumread if any at all. Also you know I never pushed people that hard that early as scum (JOAT and Student IV) so it should be a sign I am town -.- wat How is Koshi being useless right now? You could argue that he is being unreasonable at times but the difference between his play here and Horn is night and day. He being extremely whiny which I have never seen him be that whiny about non sense stuff that aint setup balance and he just throwing random scumreads everywhere and not explaining his scumreads.
not to defend the dude but that's just normal Koshi
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On March 29 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw HF, why did you hate that LS post you were talking about?
I wasn't a fan either but I wanted to see if you were thinking the same thing I thought. Dude i posted why like 3 times....? Repeated rsoul read that he did not long ago again. Loads of reads that are basically null or give a reason to town and scum read ending in null and then no scum reads, culminating in questions to random people. Felt very much like a recent post he did as mafia. +his reaction to me seems bit off
Oic, I thought you were talking about other posts. Meh.
I agree with the random questioning, definitely.
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[QUOTE]On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.
Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past. [/QUOTE]
That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.
The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon.[/QUOTE
Ok. Let me explain again.
In green WoS says:
VA is hard to read but I can read him well. I think VA is town.
in red WoS says:
VA is easy to read and always the last mafia alive. We shouldn't touch his slot because he will show his true colours.
Why would WoS say the green and the red? You can't think both things. But then read to what he replies. Read what HTS said and then read what WoS replies.
It just doesn't add up. Mafia!WoS saw something about VA and decided to spend a post about his VA meta. It's quite obvious.
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On March 29 2015 12:18 rsoultin wrote:
meh
if you're town LS, read XXX
^ very good example of town koshi
He was still much more effective with his shit but yes he be crazy but not this horrible though from what I remember from XXX.
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On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.
Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past. That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon.
Ok. Let me explain again.
In green WoS says:
VA is hard to read but I can read him well. I think VA is town.
in red WoS says:
VA is easy to read and always the last mafia alive. We shouldn't touch his slot because he will show his true colours.
Why would WoS say the green and the red? You can't think both things. But then read to what he replies. Read what HTS said and then read what WoS replies.
It just doesn't add up. Mafia!WoS saw something about VA and decided to spend a post about his VA meta. It's quite obvious.
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another point on that post everyone hates so much lol
why are you asking hf and damdred for reads when damdy isn't in the thread
and asking koshi to be serious?
why those three specific players, only two of which are actually here right now?
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[QUOTE]On March 29 2015 12:19 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.
Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past. [/QUOTE]
That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.
The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon.[/QUOTE
Ok. Let me explain again.
In green WoS says:
VA is hard to read but I can read him well. I think VA is town.
in red WoS says:
VA is easy to read and always the last mafia alive. We shouldn't touch his slot because he will show his true colours.
Why would WoS say the green and the red? You can't think both things. But then read to what he replies. Read what HTS said and then read what WoS replies.
It just doesn't add up. Mafia!WoS saw something about VA and decided to spend a post about his VA meta. It's quite obvious.[/QUOTE]
There is no reason at all I can't say both things.
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On March 29 2015 12:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Crossfire check the entire database for all my games played plus XXX Mafia and Jack of all Trades Mafia and tell me how I am scum.
I don't feel like doing that much work nor do I think it will be particularly helpful. I haven't played with a decent number of the players here and I doubt I'd be able to really understand each person's meta. I'm not the greatest at reading meta for people I haven't played with a lot and trying to determine meta from just reading filters is pretty difficult and can lead to erroneous conclusions because I don't understand the context.
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On March 29 2015 12:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.
Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past. That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon. Ok. Let me explain again. In green WoS says: VA is hard to read but I can read him well. I think VA is town. in red WoS says: VA is easy to read and always the last mafia alive. We shouldn't touch his slot because he will show his true colours.
Why would WoS say the green and the red? You can't think both things. But then read to what he replies. Read what HTS said and then read what WoS replies. It just doesn't add up. Mafia!WoS saw something about VA and decided to spend a post about his VA meta. It's quite obvious.
All I see here (at least in this post) is hedging. Not everyone confidently throws 100 % read after 100 % read out there.
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On March 29 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
another point on that post everyone hates so much lol
why are you asking hf and damdred for reads when damdy isn't in the thread
and asking koshi to be serious?
why those three specific players, only two of which are actually here right now?
Damdred because I was wanting to talk to him whenever he comes back. HF because we were interacting with each other and saw he was here wanted to interact with him. Koshi's behavior from just looking at the first few pages on XXX is so not like that game at all where he asked a shit ton of questions and stuff not really much fluff there.
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alright so im scheduled to get rogue, everything is going according to plan.
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HTS: I think VA is town. here is his meta: ....
WoS: That's not how it goes. I read VA is town. But I think we shouldn't lynch his slot because we will see how mafia he is later.
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On March 29 2015 12:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.
Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past. That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon. Ok. Let me explain again. In green WoS says: VA is hard to read but I can read him well. I think VA is town. in red WoS says: VA is easy to read and always the last mafia alive. We shouldn't touch his slot because he will show his true colours.
Why would WoS say the green and the red? You can't think both things. But then read to what he replies. Read what HTS said and then read what WoS replies. It just doesn't add up. Mafia!WoS saw something about VA and decided to spend a post about his VA meta. It's quite obvious.
mmm
i see where you see the contradiction, but it's just not giving me that omg so scummy! feel :/
saying he thinks he's town but that he can be caught easily through night actions if he's mafia is kinda like saying hey let's not lynch [insert name of good player who is hard to catch as scum here] cause if they're town we still want them around, and if they're alive day 3 or 4 we can lynch them
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On March 29 2015 12:22 Koshi wrote:
HTS: I think VA is town. here is his meta: ....
WoS: That's not how it goes. I read VA is town. But I think we shouldn't lynch his slot because we will see how mafia he is later.
So your point is that the post is useless? Idgi
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There's not enough talk about who we're going to elect right now. But at the moment I think I'm fairly convinced rsoultin is town. So
We need to have some discussion of who is going to be in the group tomorrow. This mechanic does matter and shouldn't just be entirely blown off.
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