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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 29 2015 03:25 GMT
#1241
so who actually legitimately wants warrior and isn't a shit player? I already know holyflare said he didnt want it and I need to cast my vote before I go to bed since I wont be around tomorrow much.
I come in for the scraps
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 29 2015 03:25 GMT
#1242
On March 29 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 12:20 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.

Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past.

That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.

The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon.

Ok. Let me explain again.

In green WoS says:
VA is hard to read but I can read him well. I think VA is town.

in red WoS says:
VA is easy to read and always the last mafia alive. We shouldn't touch his slot because he will show his true colours.



Why would WoS say the green and the red? You can't think both things. But then read to what he replies. Read what HTS said and then read what WoS replies.

It just doesn't add up. Mafia!WoS saw something about VA and decided to spend a post about his VA meta. It's quite obvious.



mmm

i see where you see the contradiction, but it's just not giving me that omg so scummy! feel :/

saying he thinks he's town but that he can be caught easily through night actions if he's mafia is kinda like saying hey let's not lynch [insert name of good player who is hard to catch as scum here] cause if they're town we still want them around, and if they're alive day 3 or 4 we can lynch them

That's so not VA...
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 29 2015 03:25 GMT
#1243
ExO you should vote me since you should know I am town this game
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 29 2015 03:26 GMT
#1244
On March 29 2015 12:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 12:22 Koshi wrote:
HTS: I think VA is town. here is his meta: ....
WoS: That's not how it goes. I read VA is town. But I think we shouldn't lynch his slot because we will see how mafia he is later.

So your point is that the post is useless? Idgi

Well I mean aside from the monstrous oversimplification he just did in that post, sure, take it as you will.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 29 2015 03:26 GMT
#1245
Well we have quite a lot of time left dude... I'm not bothered by it. Got anything else other than jat being crappy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 29 2015 03:27 GMT
#1246
I don't mind getting warrior if it's a vet power lol
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2015 03:27 GMT
#1247
On March 29 2015 12:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 12:20 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.

Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past.

That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.

The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon.

Ok. Let me explain again.

In green WoS says:
VA is hard to read but I can read him well. I think VA is town.

in red WoS says:
VA is easy to read and always the last mafia alive. We shouldn't touch his slot because he will show his true colours.



Why would WoS say the green and the red? You can't think both things. But then read to what he replies. Read what HTS said and then read what WoS replies.

It just doesn't add up. Mafia!WoS saw something about VA and decided to spend a post about his VA meta. It's quite obvious.

All I see here (at least in this post) is hedging. Not everyone confidently throws 100 % read after 100 % read out there.

No. That is not it.

HTS says VA is town. She correctly says VA tends to care less as mafia. She is right about the fact VA does like to keep active people alive if it doesn't hurt his win chances.
Wos his reply starts with "That's not so true anymore honestly." But it totally is. So that is already odd.

But then he goes on about how he can read VA and how VA is town. (which is already the same read as HTS, strange way how WoS formulates his post just to come to the same conclusion on VA)

But then he adds that VA is hard to catch as mafia till the endgame and that we THEREFORE shouldn't lynch him?

WHY?
HTS reads VA as town.
WoS reads VA as town.

NOBODY WANTS TO LYNCH VA.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 29 2015 03:27 GMT
#1248
I don't know rsoultin well enough to vote her atm
Decent play I'm seeing at face value so that's good. What's she capable of as scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2015 03:27 GMT
#1249
On March 29 2015 12:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
so who actually legitimately wants warrior and isn't a shit player? I already know holyflare said he didnt want it and I need to cast my vote before I go to bed since I wont be around tomorrow much.

Do you want to kill WoS. If you do. Vote me.
I had a good night of sleep.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 29 2015 03:28 GMT
#1250
On March 29 2015 12:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
so who actually legitimately wants warrior and isn't a shit player? I already know holyflare said he didnt want it and I need to cast my vote before I go to bed since I wont be around tomorrow much.


Yo I'll take some free votes.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 29 2015 03:29 GMT
#1251
I mean I probably won't win and you'll most likely be throwing your vote away, but sure. Votes are nice.

Obi for president. :D
Retired.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 29 2015 03:29 GMT
#1252
lol

i wasn't planning on running but i'll take it

holyflare or batsnacks will probably get my vote (though I want me some more bats xP first)

or possibly koshi cause i'm fairly confident he's town...though lol the thought of koshi as mayor scares me just a little, no offense my favorite crazy man <3
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 29 2015 03:29 GMT
#1253
On March 29 2015 12:01 Snarfs wrote:
I got HF, rsoultn, Koshi, kita(because of HF), wave, chez as town. Very similar to crossfire, not sold on keirathi but that seems like a good start.


Do you have any non-town reads yet?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 29 2015 03:29 GMT
#1254
On March 29 2015 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't know rsoultin well enough to vote her atm
Decent play I'm seeing at face value so that's good. What's she capable of as scum?

I am pretty sure she is capable of everything she has done so far as mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 29 2015 03:30 GMT
#1255
Never let koshi get any kind of power. He's too far gone (but his wave point does have merit and i like it)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 29 2015 03:30 GMT
#1256
Ehhhh.
Was hoping you wouldn't say that.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 29 2015 03:30 GMT
#1257
On March 29 2015 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't know rsoultin well enough to vote her atm
Decent play I'm seeing at face value so that's good. What's she capable of as scum?

Check both of these games when she was scum:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477216-horn-of-africa-mini-mafia?user=rsoultin
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=rsoultin
She can be a good scum player if you not careful about her.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2015 03:31 GMT
#1258
On March 29 2015 12:30 Holyflare wrote:
Never let koshi get any kind of power. He's too far gone (but his wave point does have merit and i like it)

Kita is town. It's fine. We kill WoS.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 29 2015 03:31 GMT
#1259
Not the Koshi point having merit thing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 29 2015 03:31 GMT
#1260
On March 29 2015 12:30 Holyflare wrote:
Never let koshi get any kind of power. He's too far gone (but his wave point does have merit and i like it)

Really? I mean I see what he is talking about now but I don't think it's incredibly convincing.
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