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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 02 2015 00:08 GMT
#4421
On April 02 2015 09:05 batsnacks wrote:
Here's a better plan:

Vote HTS until Damdred proves he's legit.


Associative reads? If you don't like Damdred, why are you voting for me and not Damdred?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 02 2015 00:08 GMT
#4422
On April 02 2015 09:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
so damdred says hes going to leave the game and then doesnt and you think hes not a lying piece of shit at that point? his role is literally changing by the hour.


And it can't in a Greymist game?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 02 2015 00:09 GMT
#4423
On April 02 2015 08:58 justanothertownie wrote:
I just realized I am an idiot for not advising some people to make different nightactions. Well, it could be worse.


Such as?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2015 00:10 GMT
#4424
On April 02 2015 06:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning Town
LightningStrike - Has a towny sounding role claim. I'm still assuming he gets shot at some point so I haven't looked at him a ton.
Onegu - Claimed role in thread and tries to work with cleric to produce gun on d1. Transparency typically a townie trait...though it would be nice to figure out why his role didn't work n1.
justanothertownie - Active in PMs and trying to solve things. Would re-evaluate closer to to lylo, but seems town.
rsoultin - Seems town. Would be another that I'd re-evaluate closer to lylo. Maybe damdred's item tells us something.

Towny/Null
WaveofShadow - Has a day vig shot and PMs others asking how it should be used. It's possible that he was looking for people to tell him to shoot hapa, but like I said earlier if I had his role I'd simply use it on whoever is the biggest threat to mafia, which wasn't an afk hapa.

Koshi - Town based on activity and giving out reads and pushing them often. If there is a mafia playing the endgame role, then he likely is the one for paranoia reasons that I'm not going to entertain right now.

Half the Sky - Provided a claim pretty easily. Mafia typically don't give out information they don't need to since it comes back to hurt them if they're caught lying. I haven't looked at her content wise in a long time. I probably should do my due diligence if I survive the night.

Keirathi - According to JAT, he was pretty willing to cooperate in solving things via PM.

Snarfs - Not going to deny its anything other than his willingness to claim his role early.

Crossfire99 - As I said earlier, he bread crumbed strongbad so if Moriarty is mafia like we assume, that would mean mafia is checking a different mafia player who is actually strongbad, which makes both xfire and that other mafia player outed if any role cop reveals the true strongbad. His actual posts have little value and he hasn't done a ton to try to help town aside from the fake death and I was scummy null on him before the death, but I'd put others higher on the chopping board.

Blazinghand - Well the whole Lestrade/Moriarty thing suggest town if Moriarty is mafia. Moriarty hasn't claimed so that seems to be the assumption to make for now. Thought he looked mafia on day one based on the quotes I posted.

Null

ObiWanShinobi - Claims a role that was mafia in a previous teamliquid game. Not sure how to interpret this. At one people he was asking several times if people were around to chat, which he also did in one of his mafia games. Really small sample size here though. When we did exchange PM's he asked me about my mason ability, which was about the least relevant thing in the game considering everyone was a d2 mason. He did give up the claim willingly, so there is that.

Exo_ - Maybe townie null. Admits to own the day ending thing so thats a plus for him.

Other
Ran out of time on these two (I blame damdred). One or both may be mafia by process of elimination.

yamato77

VisceraEyes

Leaning Mafia

batsnacks - I honestly can't remember a game where I've read him as town, but I still think he is mafia. Shows no willingness to cooperate in PM land. In the thread, he doesn't have any town tells. He is going after easy targets, that a lot of other people would consider 50/50 coinflip reasons. Seems like he is picking the side of the coin he wants to view things as.

Sepulchre - He goes out of his way to tell me that he spent his entire day on xfire post flip analysis and how it is all wasted. Seems like it may be a situation where he is trying to push the idea that he couldn't possibly have known that xfire wasn't actually mafia (if xfire is indeed not actually mafia).

VayneAuthority - Claims a plansewalker role similar to Hapa, but only reveals two roles. I questioned the claim because it didn't make sense, especially compared to Hapa's flip. He explains there was a third role, but it is a "passive that he doesn't know how it works so he can't share". That seems pretty sketchy especially because he was withholding that part upon first claiming. I didn't like how he posted how I was 100% town and "I thought kita had a brain but apparently he is brainwashed too" when I first suggested how he likely had more than two roles. He changed his tune when I provided evidence that he had more than two. A lot of this comes down to whether or not marv actually checked him. It's annoying that marv didn't take advantage of PMs to reveal his target to his number one town read.

3p/mafia:

Alakaslam - Slam has played the blatant anti-town role before. Either way he totally wrecked day two so he most certainly needs to be held accountable. In PMs, he admitted to making up the stuff about BH being lynched killing off the mayor. Look closer at that if he flips red at any point. He also claims to need to kill JAT as part of his win condition, but that's probably another lie. Don't assume 3P because he is almost certainly anti-town based on his actions.

Other 3p claims:
Holyflare - There were others that I said I would re-evaluate closer to lylo, but he is someone worth re-evaluating much sooner than that, but probably not until the first couple mafia are flipped (hopefully that actually happens -_-)

Damdred - It probably goes without saying that I don't trust him. He promised a gun on n1, but didn't deliver. As far as I know, that gun didn't end up anywhere unless mafia is holding on to it or he was lying. As I mentioned earlier though, it seems weird that a mafia damdred would claim to need to kill gordon and then need an excuse if gordon is still around. His excuse for using the item is suspect as I'm one of the two players he claims to have trusted enough to tell about the day vig, but then suddenly he doesn't trust me so he wants to check me with this item that may or may not exist.

Trfel - Really should pressure him to dual on n3, since I wasn't able to get things going tonight. How come we can't get any pro-town 3p claims? -_-


Thoughts anyone?

I'll try to get to yamato and VE's filter now.

On April 02 2015 08:17 batsnacks wrote:
N1 I sent out a soul fragment to ritoky that targets two players' PMs, if they were negative reputation they could pm if they were good reputation they couldn't pm. I didn't realize it wound up with damdred somehow, I just figured ritoky took it to the grave.


So what does this item actually do?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 02 2015 00:11 GMT
#4425
On April 02 2015 09:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
so damdred says hes going to leave the game and then doesnt and you think hes not a lying piece of shit at that point? his role is literally changing by the hour.


And it can't in a Greymist game?


not so conveniently. roles like that usually have very little player control like for example onegu's who makes the game a shitshow but he has no control or info over it.

Damdred is literally pulling strings out of his ass as the game goes along.
I come in for the scraps
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 02 2015 00:11 GMT
#4426
On April 02 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 06:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning Town
LightningStrike - Has a towny sounding role claim. I'm still assuming he gets shot at some point so I haven't looked at him a ton.
Onegu - Claimed role in thread and tries to work with cleric to produce gun on d1. Transparency typically a townie trait...though it would be nice to figure out why his role didn't work n1.
justanothertownie - Active in PMs and trying to solve things. Would re-evaluate closer to to lylo, but seems town.
rsoultin - Seems town. Would be another that I'd re-evaluate closer to lylo. Maybe damdred's item tells us something.

Towny/Null
WaveofShadow - Has a day vig shot and PMs others asking how it should be used. It's possible that he was looking for people to tell him to shoot hapa, but like I said earlier if I had his role I'd simply use it on whoever is the biggest threat to mafia, which wasn't an afk hapa.

Koshi - Town based on activity and giving out reads and pushing them often. If there is a mafia playing the endgame role, then he likely is the one for paranoia reasons that I'm not going to entertain right now.

Half the Sky - Provided a claim pretty easily. Mafia typically don't give out information they don't need to since it comes back to hurt them if they're caught lying. I haven't looked at her content wise in a long time. I probably should do my due diligence if I survive the night.

Keirathi - According to JAT, he was pretty willing to cooperate in solving things via PM.

Snarfs - Not going to deny its anything other than his willingness to claim his role early.

Crossfire99 - As I said earlier, he bread crumbed strongbad so if Moriarty is mafia like we assume, that would mean mafia is checking a different mafia player who is actually strongbad, which makes both xfire and that other mafia player outed if any role cop reveals the true strongbad. His actual posts have little value and he hasn't done a ton to try to help town aside from the fake death and I was scummy null on him before the death, but I'd put others higher on the chopping board.

Blazinghand - Well the whole Lestrade/Moriarty thing suggest town if Moriarty is mafia. Moriarty hasn't claimed so that seems to be the assumption to make for now. Thought he looked mafia on day one based on the quotes I posted.

Null

ObiWanShinobi - Claims a role that was mafia in a previous teamliquid game. Not sure how to interpret this. At one people he was asking several times if people were around to chat, which he also did in one of his mafia games. Really small sample size here though. When we did exchange PM's he asked me about my mason ability, which was about the least relevant thing in the game considering everyone was a d2 mason. He did give up the claim willingly, so there is that.

Exo_ - Maybe townie null. Admits to own the day ending thing so thats a plus for him.

Other
Ran out of time on these two (I blame damdred). One or both may be mafia by process of elimination.

yamato77

VisceraEyes

Leaning Mafia

batsnacks - I honestly can't remember a game where I've read him as town, but I still think he is mafia. Shows no willingness to cooperate in PM land. In the thread, he doesn't have any town tells. He is going after easy targets, that a lot of other people would consider 50/50 coinflip reasons. Seems like he is picking the side of the coin he wants to view things as.

Sepulchre - He goes out of his way to tell me that he spent his entire day on xfire post flip analysis and how it is all wasted. Seems like it may be a situation where he is trying to push the idea that he couldn't possibly have known that xfire wasn't actually mafia (if xfire is indeed not actually mafia).

VayneAuthority - Claims a plansewalker role similar to Hapa, but only reveals two roles. I questioned the claim because it didn't make sense, especially compared to Hapa's flip. He explains there was a third role, but it is a "passive that he doesn't know how it works so he can't share". That seems pretty sketchy especially because he was withholding that part upon first claiming. I didn't like how he posted how I was 100% town and "I thought kita had a brain but apparently he is brainwashed too" when I first suggested how he likely had more than two roles. He changed his tune when I provided evidence that he had more than two. A lot of this comes down to whether or not marv actually checked him. It's annoying that marv didn't take advantage of PMs to reveal his target to his number one town read.

3p/mafia:

Alakaslam - Slam has played the blatant anti-town role before. Either way he totally wrecked day two so he most certainly needs to be held accountable. In PMs, he admitted to making up the stuff about BH being lynched killing off the mayor. Look closer at that if he flips red at any point. He also claims to need to kill JAT as part of his win condition, but that's probably another lie. Don't assume 3P because he is almost certainly anti-town based on his actions.

Other 3p claims:
Holyflare - There were others that I said I would re-evaluate closer to lylo, but he is someone worth re-evaluating much sooner than that, but probably not until the first couple mafia are flipped (hopefully that actually happens -_-)

Damdred - It probably goes without saying that I don't trust him. He promised a gun on n1, but didn't deliver. As far as I know, that gun didn't end up anywhere unless mafia is holding on to it or he was lying. As I mentioned earlier though, it seems weird that a mafia damdred would claim to need to kill gordon and then need an excuse if gordon is still around. His excuse for using the item is suspect as I'm one of the two players he claims to have trusted enough to tell about the day vig, but then suddenly he doesn't trust me so he wants to check me with this item that may or may not exist.

Trfel - Really should pressure him to dual on n3, since I wasn't able to get things going tonight. How come we can't get any pro-town 3p claims? -_-


Thoughts anyone?

I'll try to get to yamato and VE's filter now.

Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 08:17 batsnacks wrote:
N1 I sent out a soul fragment to ritoky that targets two players' PMs, if they were negative reputation they could pm if they were good reputation they couldn't pm. I didn't realize it wound up with damdred somehow, I just figured ritoky took it to the grave.


So what does this item actually do?

Yes please. Your opinion on those would be really appreciated. There are only so many people left on your list if you know what I mean.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2015 00:12 GMT
#4427
On April 02 2015 09:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 02 2015 06:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning Town
LightningStrike - Has a towny sounding role claim. I'm still assuming he gets shot at some point so I haven't looked at him a ton.
Onegu - Claimed role in thread and tries to work with cleric to produce gun on d1. Transparency typically a townie trait...though it would be nice to figure out why his role didn't work n1.
justanothertownie - Active in PMs and trying to solve things. Would re-evaluate closer to to lylo, but seems town.
rsoultin - Seems town. Would be another that I'd re-evaluate closer to lylo. Maybe damdred's item tells us something.

Towny/Null
WaveofShadow - Has a day vig shot and PMs others asking how it should be used. It's possible that he was looking for people to tell him to shoot hapa, but like I said earlier if I had his role I'd simply use it on whoever is the biggest threat to mafia, which wasn't an afk hapa.

Koshi - Town based on activity and giving out reads and pushing them often. If there is a mafia playing the endgame role, then he likely is the one for paranoia reasons that I'm not going to entertain right now.

Half the Sky - Provided a claim pretty easily. Mafia typically don't give out information they don't need to since it comes back to hurt them if they're caught lying. I haven't looked at her content wise in a long time. I probably should do my due diligence if I survive the night.

Keirathi - According to JAT, he was pretty willing to cooperate in solving things via PM.

Snarfs - Not going to deny its anything other than his willingness to claim his role early.

Crossfire99 - As I said earlier, he bread crumbed strongbad so if Moriarty is mafia like we assume, that would mean mafia is checking a different mafia player who is actually strongbad, which makes both xfire and that other mafia player outed if any role cop reveals the true strongbad. His actual posts have little value and he hasn't done a ton to try to help town aside from the fake death and I was scummy null on him before the death, but I'd put others higher on the chopping board.

Blazinghand - Well the whole Lestrade/Moriarty thing suggest town if Moriarty is mafia. Moriarty hasn't claimed so that seems to be the assumption to make for now. Thought he looked mafia on day one based on the quotes I posted.

Null

ObiWanShinobi - Claims a role that was mafia in a previous teamliquid game. Not sure how to interpret this. At one people he was asking several times if people were around to chat, which he also did in one of his mafia games. Really small sample size here though. When we did exchange PM's he asked me about my mason ability, which was about the least relevant thing in the game considering everyone was a d2 mason. He did give up the claim willingly, so there is that.

Exo_ - Maybe townie null. Admits to own the day ending thing so thats a plus for him.

Other
Ran out of time on these two (I blame damdred). One or both may be mafia by process of elimination.

yamato77

VisceraEyes

Leaning Mafia

batsnacks - I honestly can't remember a game where I've read him as town, but I still think he is mafia. Shows no willingness to cooperate in PM land. In the thread, he doesn't have any town tells. He is going after easy targets, that a lot of other people would consider 50/50 coinflip reasons. Seems like he is picking the side of the coin he wants to view things as.

Sepulchre - He goes out of his way to tell me that he spent his entire day on xfire post flip analysis and how it is all wasted. Seems like it may be a situation where he is trying to push the idea that he couldn't possibly have known that xfire wasn't actually mafia (if xfire is indeed not actually mafia).

VayneAuthority - Claims a plansewalker role similar to Hapa, but only reveals two roles. I questioned the claim because it didn't make sense, especially compared to Hapa's flip. He explains there was a third role, but it is a "passive that he doesn't know how it works so he can't share". That seems pretty sketchy especially because he was withholding that part upon first claiming. I didn't like how he posted how I was 100% town and "I thought kita had a brain but apparently he is brainwashed too" when I first suggested how he likely had more than two roles. He changed his tune when I provided evidence that he had more than two. A lot of this comes down to whether or not marv actually checked him. It's annoying that marv didn't take advantage of PMs to reveal his target to his number one town read.

3p/mafia:

Alakaslam - Slam has played the blatant anti-town role before. Either way he totally wrecked day two so he most certainly needs to be held accountable. In PMs, he admitted to making up the stuff about BH being lynched killing off the mayor. Look closer at that if he flips red at any point. He also claims to need to kill JAT as part of his win condition, but that's probably another lie. Don't assume 3P because he is almost certainly anti-town based on his actions.

Other 3p claims:
Holyflare - There were others that I said I would re-evaluate closer to lylo, but he is someone worth re-evaluating much sooner than that, but probably not until the first couple mafia are flipped (hopefully that actually happens -_-)

Damdred - It probably goes without saying that I don't trust him. He promised a gun on n1, but didn't deliver. As far as I know, that gun didn't end up anywhere unless mafia is holding on to it or he was lying. As I mentioned earlier though, it seems weird that a mafia damdred would claim to need to kill gordon and then need an excuse if gordon is still around. His excuse for using the item is suspect as I'm one of the two players he claims to have trusted enough to tell about the day vig, but then suddenly he doesn't trust me so he wants to check me with this item that may or may not exist.

Trfel - Really should pressure him to dual on n3, since I wasn't able to get things going tonight. How come we can't get any pro-town 3p claims? -_-


Thoughts anyone?

I'll try to get to yamato and VE's filter now.

On April 02 2015 08:17 batsnacks wrote:
N1 I sent out a soul fragment to ritoky that targets two players' PMs, if they were negative reputation they could pm if they were good reputation they couldn't pm. I didn't realize it wound up with damdred somehow, I just figured ritoky took it to the grave.


So what does this item actually do?

Yes please. Your opinion on those would be really appreciated. There are only so many people left on your list if you know what I mean.


Do you intend to share scum reads at any point?

You're deadline post was pretty lame if you know what I mean.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 02 2015 00:13 GMT
#4428
On April 02 2015 09:12 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 02 2015 06:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Leaning Town
LightningStrike - Has a towny sounding role claim. I'm still assuming he gets shot at some point so I haven't looked at him a ton.
Onegu - Claimed role in thread and tries to work with cleric to produce gun on d1. Transparency typically a townie trait...though it would be nice to figure out why his role didn't work n1.
justanothertownie - Active in PMs and trying to solve things. Would re-evaluate closer to to lylo, but seems town.
rsoultin - Seems town. Would be another that I'd re-evaluate closer to lylo. Maybe damdred's item tells us something.

Towny/Null
WaveofShadow - Has a day vig shot and PMs others asking how it should be used. It's possible that he was looking for people to tell him to shoot hapa, but like I said earlier if I had his role I'd simply use it on whoever is the biggest threat to mafia, which wasn't an afk hapa.

Koshi - Town based on activity and giving out reads and pushing them often. If there is a mafia playing the endgame role, then he likely is the one for paranoia reasons that I'm not going to entertain right now.

Half the Sky - Provided a claim pretty easily. Mafia typically don't give out information they don't need to since it comes back to hurt them if they're caught lying. I haven't looked at her content wise in a long time. I probably should do my due diligence if I survive the night.

Keirathi - According to JAT, he was pretty willing to cooperate in solving things via PM.

Snarfs - Not going to deny its anything other than his willingness to claim his role early.

Crossfire99 - As I said earlier, he bread crumbed strongbad so if Moriarty is mafia like we assume, that would mean mafia is checking a different mafia player who is actually strongbad, which makes both xfire and that other mafia player outed if any role cop reveals the true strongbad. His actual posts have little value and he hasn't done a ton to try to help town aside from the fake death and I was scummy null on him before the death, but I'd put others higher on the chopping board.

Blazinghand - Well the whole Lestrade/Moriarty thing suggest town if Moriarty is mafia. Moriarty hasn't claimed so that seems to be the assumption to make for now. Thought he looked mafia on day one based on the quotes I posted.

Null

ObiWanShinobi - Claims a role that was mafia in a previous teamliquid game. Not sure how to interpret this. At one people he was asking several times if people were around to chat, which he also did in one of his mafia games. Really small sample size here though. When we did exchange PM's he asked me about my mason ability, which was about the least relevant thing in the game considering everyone was a d2 mason. He did give up the claim willingly, so there is that.

Exo_ - Maybe townie null. Admits to own the day ending thing so thats a plus for him.

Other
Ran out of time on these two (I blame damdred). One or both may be mafia by process of elimination.

yamato77

VisceraEyes

Leaning Mafia

batsnacks - I honestly can't remember a game where I've read him as town, but I still think he is mafia. Shows no willingness to cooperate in PM land. In the thread, he doesn't have any town tells. He is going after easy targets, that a lot of other people would consider 50/50 coinflip reasons. Seems like he is picking the side of the coin he wants to view things as.

Sepulchre - He goes out of his way to tell me that he spent his entire day on xfire post flip analysis and how it is all wasted. Seems like it may be a situation where he is trying to push the idea that he couldn't possibly have known that xfire wasn't actually mafia (if xfire is indeed not actually mafia).

VayneAuthority - Claims a plansewalker role similar to Hapa, but only reveals two roles. I questioned the claim because it didn't make sense, especially compared to Hapa's flip. He explains there was a third role, but it is a "passive that he doesn't know how it works so he can't share". That seems pretty sketchy especially because he was withholding that part upon first claiming. I didn't like how he posted how I was 100% town and "I thought kita had a brain but apparently he is brainwashed too" when I first suggested how he likely had more than two roles. He changed his tune when I provided evidence that he had more than two. A lot of this comes down to whether or not marv actually checked him. It's annoying that marv didn't take advantage of PMs to reveal his target to his number one town read.

3p/mafia:

Alakaslam - Slam has played the blatant anti-town role before. Either way he totally wrecked day two so he most certainly needs to be held accountable. In PMs, he admitted to making up the stuff about BH being lynched killing off the mayor. Look closer at that if he flips red at any point. He also claims to need to kill JAT as part of his win condition, but that's probably another lie. Don't assume 3P because he is almost certainly anti-town based on his actions.

Other 3p claims:
Holyflare - There were others that I said I would re-evaluate closer to lylo, but he is someone worth re-evaluating much sooner than that, but probably not until the first couple mafia are flipped (hopefully that actually happens -_-)

Damdred - It probably goes without saying that I don't trust him. He promised a gun on n1, but didn't deliver. As far as I know, that gun didn't end up anywhere unless mafia is holding on to it or he was lying. As I mentioned earlier though, it seems weird that a mafia damdred would claim to need to kill gordon and then need an excuse if gordon is still around. His excuse for using the item is suspect as I'm one of the two players he claims to have trusted enough to tell about the day vig, but then suddenly he doesn't trust me so he wants to check me with this item that may or may not exist.

Trfel - Really should pressure him to dual on n3, since I wasn't able to get things going tonight. How come we can't get any pro-town 3p claims? -_-


Thoughts anyone?

I'll try to get to yamato and VE's filter now.

On April 02 2015 08:17 batsnacks wrote:
N1 I sent out a soul fragment to ritoky that targets two players' PMs, if they were negative reputation they could pm if they were good reputation they couldn't pm. I didn't realize it wound up with damdred somehow, I just figured ritoky took it to the grave.


So what does this item actually do?

Yes please. Your opinion on those would be really appreciated. There are only so many people left on your list if you know what I mean.


Do you intend to share scum reads at any point?

You're deadline post was pretty lame if you know what I mean.

I know what you mean but I am not the supposed redcheck.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 02 2015 00:14 GMT
#4429
Anyone think they can take a stab at number of scum? I was told last night scum teams in greymist games are quite large and we already have 8 townies dead, and Crossfire (who I suspect as scum based on behaviour irregardless of the whole resurrection thing) resurrected.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 02 2015 00:14 GMT
#4430
your reads are very close to mine kita, minus myself obviously. you act like I like being a glorified vote stealer with some hidden mechanic, its way more frustrating for me.
I come in for the scraps
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2015 00:14 GMT
#4431
Also for the sake of nudging you in the right direction my cop killing friend:

Poll: Damdred should be lynched with no exceptions if he doesn't leave in 24

Agree, no exceptions (10)
 
67%

Disagree, it's fine if he stays (5)
 
33%

15 total votes

Your vote: Damdred should be lynched with no exceptions if he doesn't leave in 24

(Vote): Agree, no exceptions
(Vote): Disagree, it's fine if he stays

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 02 2015 00:15 GMT
#4432
Why is crossfire not dead btw.?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
April 02 2015 00:15 GMT
#4433
On April 02 2015 09:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:05 batsnacks wrote:
Here's a better plan:

Vote HTS until Damdred proves he's legit.


Associative reads? If you don't like Damdred, why are you voting for me and not Damdred?


I fine with lynching damdred if he's lying but I don't think voting him now is going to help anything. He either is or isn't and we'll find out soon enough.

@kitaman That's all the info I have about the soul fragment: negative reputation = can pm, good reputation = can't pm
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 02 2015 00:16 GMT
#4434
On April 02 2015 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Why is crossfire not dead btw.?


are you scared he has some other role or something? im just ignoring him for now because if his role does anything beyond ressurect himself as a mafia member then im done with this shit.
I come in for the scraps
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2015 00:16 GMT
#4435
On April 02 2015 09:15 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:05 batsnacks wrote:
Here's a better plan:

Vote HTS until Damdred proves he's legit.


Associative reads? If you don't like Damdred, why are you voting for me and not Damdred?


I fine with lynching damdred if he's lying but I don't think voting him now is going to help anything. He either is or isn't and we'll find out soon enough.

@kitaman That's all the info I have about the soul fragment: negative reputation = can pm, good reputation = can't pm


Did you ask what reputation means at any point?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 02 2015 00:17 GMT
#4436
On April 02 2015 09:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Why is crossfire not dead btw.?


are you scared he has some other role or something? im just ignoring him for now because if his role does anything beyond ressurect himself as a mafia member then im done with this shit.

I don't know what I am scared of but according to HF he should be dead.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 02 2015 00:18 GMT
#4437
On April 02 2015 09:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Why is crossfire not dead btw.?


are you scared he has some other role or something? im just ignoring him for now because if his role does anything beyond ressurect himself as a mafia member then im done with this shit.

I don't know what I am scared of but according to HF he should be dead.


holyflare is a trustworthy and upstanding fellow, thats strange.
I come in for the scraps
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
April 02 2015 00:19 GMT
#4438
On April 02 2015 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Why is crossfire not dead btw.?


are you scared he has some other role or something? im just ignoring him for now because if his role does anything beyond ressurect himself as a mafia member then im done with this shit.

I don't know what I am scared of but according to HF he should be dead.


holyflare is a trustworthy and upstanding fellow, thats strange.

I know. That's why I am asking.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
April 02 2015 00:19 GMT
#4439
On April 02 2015 09:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:15 batsnacks wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:05 batsnacks wrote:
Here's a better plan:

Vote HTS until Damdred proves he's legit.


Associative reads? If you don't like Damdred, why are you voting for me and not Damdred?


I fine with lynching damdred if he's lying but I don't think voting him now is going to help anything. He either is or isn't and we'll find out soon enough.

@kitaman That's all the info I have about the soul fragment: negative reputation = can pm, good reputation = can't pm


Did you ask what reputation means at any point?


No, I figured it wasn't related to me. The reason I sent it to ritoky, aside from townreading him, is because I figured as an item dealer he would have more knowledge about game mechanics.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
April 02 2015 00:20 GMT
#4440
On April 02 2015 09:19 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 09:16 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:15 batsnacks wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 02 2015 09:05 batsnacks wrote:
Here's a better plan:

Vote HTS until Damdred proves he's legit.


Associative reads? If you don't like Damdred, why are you voting for me and not Damdred?


I fine with lynching damdred if he's lying but I don't think voting him now is going to help anything. He either is or isn't and we'll find out soon enough.

@kitaman That's all the info I have about the soul fragment: negative reputation = can pm, good reputation = can't pm


Did you ask what reputation means at any point?


No, I figured it wasn't related to me. The reason I sent it to ritoky, aside from townreading him, is because I figured as an item dealer he would have more knowledge about game mechanics.


May I suggest asking?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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