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On April 10 2015 18:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 18:29 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
I guess I'll iterate in very short terms on each one. Almost all of these are crazy weak at the moment, but here's what I've thought:
Damdred sounds towny and aggressive. Again I liked him attacking GB at the start of the game.
Vivax just doesn't sound like mafia and he sheeped my case.
rsoultin is a pita. Mafia are rarely massive pita.
HF said something early that I liked. Also I'm wifom gambling on him doing this as town now.
yamato is just a tone read
ritoky because I am going to gamble that his trolling act is a town thing.
Eden: can't even remember a post
DR: has he posted?
Koshi voted rsoultin for being a pita to me I think. It wasn't awful but I didn't like it. Also his scumteam isn't all that great.
Onegu framed his play "I'm going to use a lot of lyrics". He's again doing that thing where he says he'll do something then delivers on it.
Obi because of the "Right" post in response to GB
GB because of all the reasons I've already posted. These two reads make no sense. The first one is just a gamble so it's not really a good read. The second one is valid though. It's just not a very strong one.
In my book they're both trolling and if one is mafia just cause he announced he would troll it sounds like bs
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On April 10 2015 18:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 18:41 Palmar wrote:On April 10 2015 18:29 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
I guess I'll iterate in very short terms on each one. Almost all of these are crazy weak at the moment, but here's what I've thought:
Damdred sounds towny and aggressive. Again I liked him attacking GB at the start of the game.
Vivax just doesn't sound like mafia and he sheeped my case.
rsoultin is a pita. Mafia are rarely massive pita.
HF said something early that I liked. Also I'm wifom gambling on him doing this as town now.
yamato is just a tone read
ritoky because I am going to gamble that his trolling act is a town thing.
Eden: can't even remember a post
DR: has he posted?
Koshi voted rsoultin for being a pita to me I think. It wasn't awful but I didn't like it. Also his scumteam isn't all that great.
Onegu framed his play "I'm going to use a lot of lyrics". He's again doing that thing where he says he'll do something then delivers on it.
Obi because of the "Right" post in response to GB
GB because of all the reasons I've already posted. These two reads make no sense. The first one is just a gamble so it's not really a good read. The second one is valid though. It's just not a very strong one. In my book they're both trolling and if one is mafia just cause he announced he would troll it sounds like bs
Eh.
I've talked about this before in other games, I'll see if I can find a link.
In essence. I believe that if you frame the way you're going to play in some particular way, you're giving yourself a constructed way to post so people won't expect you to break it. This makes posting as mafia much easier because you've already decided how you're going to post so you don't have to worry as much about the style or format of your posts.
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Like I'm going to sort of read what HF had to say on the assumption he's not 100% awful and see if I agree with anything in it.
Without having actually started any evaluation process I actually feel the best shot today would be to lynch Eden or Vivax because those are the people HF and I agreed on.
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On April 10 2015 19:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 18:58 Vivax wrote:On April 10 2015 18:41 Palmar wrote:On April 10 2015 18:29 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
I guess I'll iterate in very short terms on each one. Almost all of these are crazy weak at the moment, but here's what I've thought:
Damdred sounds towny and aggressive. Again I liked him attacking GB at the start of the game.
Vivax just doesn't sound like mafia and he sheeped my case.
rsoultin is a pita. Mafia are rarely massive pita.
HF said something early that I liked. Also I'm wifom gambling on him doing this as town now.
yamato is just a tone read
ritoky because I am going to gamble that his trolling act is a town thing.
Eden: can't even remember a post
DR: has he posted?
Koshi voted rsoultin for being a pita to me I think. It wasn't awful but I didn't like it. Also his scumteam isn't all that great.
Onegu framed his play "I'm going to use a lot of lyrics". He's again doing that thing where he says he'll do something then delivers on it.
Obi because of the "Right" post in response to GB
GB because of all the reasons I've already posted. These two reads make no sense. The first one is just a gamble so it's not really a good read. The second one is valid though. It's just not a very strong one. In my book they're both trolling and if one is mafia just cause he announced he would troll it sounds like bs Eh. I've talked about this before in other games, I'll see if I can find a link. In essence. I believe that if you frame the way you're going to play in some particular way, you're giving yourself a constructed way to post so people won't expect you to break it. This makes posting as mafia much easier because you've already decided how you're going to post so you don't have to worry as much about the style or format of your posts.
I don't believe you to really believe this.
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On April 10 2015 19:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 19:01 Palmar wrote:On April 10 2015 18:58 Vivax wrote:On April 10 2015 18:41 Palmar wrote:On April 10 2015 18:29 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
I guess I'll iterate in very short terms on each one. Almost all of these are crazy weak at the moment, but here's what I've thought:
Damdred sounds towny and aggressive. Again I liked him attacking GB at the start of the game.
Vivax just doesn't sound like mafia and he sheeped my case.
rsoultin is a pita. Mafia are rarely massive pita.
HF said something early that I liked. Also I'm wifom gambling on him doing this as town now.
yamato is just a tone read
ritoky because I am going to gamble that his trolling act is a town thing.
Eden: can't even remember a post
DR: has he posted?
Koshi voted rsoultin for being a pita to me I think. It wasn't awful but I didn't like it. Also his scumteam isn't all that great.
Onegu framed his play "I'm going to use a lot of lyrics". He's again doing that thing where he says he'll do something then delivers on it.
Obi because of the "Right" post in response to GB
GB because of all the reasons I've already posted. These two reads make no sense. The first one is just a gamble so it's not really a good read. The second one is valid though. It's just not a very strong one. In my book they're both trolling and if one is mafia just cause he announced he would troll it sounds like bs Eh. I've talked about this before in other games, I'll see if I can find a link. In essence. I believe that if you frame the way you're going to play in some particular way, you're giving yourself a constructed way to post so people won't expect you to break it. This makes posting as mafia much easier because you've already decided how you're going to post so you don't have to worry as much about the style or format of your posts. I don't believe you to really believe this.
On March 19 2015 20:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Palmar is this in your opinion: On November 27 2014 19:49 Palmar wrote:4 7 5 1 2 11 4 8 3 1 10 4 21 4 5 4 1 (18) 71 3 3 This is a list of the index of the first post by scum in the last 20 minis. I skipped games with less than 2 mafia, and the one with the brackets is holyflare's game where people just posted popcorn after the game started until he further reminded people that the game had actually started (mafia was first popcorn poster, but didn't post again until 18th). So this guy: On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.
Is super smart. Another interesting tidbit is that this first post by mafia is almost always some kind of a fluffy comment. I didn't write down the posts (I should have) but it was pretty obvious that during the first... 20? posts of the game, mafia posts just to post. So I'm literally only going to do that today. just read the first 20 posts or so and find the mafia in there. not trolling? No of course it isn't I've been thinking about revisiting this method as town at some point actually. It's of course kinda scummy to frame my entire play like that, but I was mafia. But it wasn't trolling at all because I was actually trying to make it look like I wanted to solve the game.
On January 27 2015 19:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 19:33 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Do you think my concern regarding GB is irrelevant Toad? I've never done that as mafia ever. I'm not even sure if "against GB" means "against GB lynch" or "against GB (being town)" with the topic being what it is recently. So what? I feel like it's a mafia thing to do. Unlike all the baddies who cling to meta, I don't care if it's been done before or if he has done it before. I think it's a scummy way to frame your posting this current game.
On March 17 2015 07:10 Palmar wrote:
I don't really know Onegu that well. Generally he seems sort of too trolly to be mafia.
On the other hand, the fact that he:
1. promised read on rayn
2. delivered read on rayn
is actually really scummy, because he framed his play and then played exactly to fit that frame. Like it's not an organic read at all, it's manufactured.
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Quote games I need to check your alignments
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I'm mafia in the first one and town in the other two. I don't think that really matters. The end point is that even if I'm mafia this isn't the sort of thing I'd lie about. I truly and honestly believe that limiting your options in terms of posting and basing it on a constructed recipe is always sort of mafia favored. I've done it myself as mafia.
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Besides it doesn't change my reads. My current guess is probably Palmar/Koshi and one of ritoky or Eden. Leaning heavier on ritoky cause Koshi seemed to try to convince Eden on GB at some point.
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Like I'm not gonna argue about this any more.
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Canada11355 Posts
Onegu has been replaced by sicklucker effective immediately.
Please wait until postgame to discuss.
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On April 10 2015 19:43 Palmar wrote:
Why am I mafia Vivax?
Cause looking at your GB push from a fresh perspective it now looks like my initial impression was before you typed it out: Bloated out of proportion.
Then I don't believe that you would townread ritoky over Onegu when they do similar things, and you didn't re-evaluate ritoky over the course of the game. Onegu has been way more productive and opinionated on the long term. To me it just looks comfy for you and Koshi to leave ritoky in the town corner, and it looks comfy for him cause he seems to have no pressure to scumhunt at all.
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Oh god. I read a small bit what did dandred claim
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And I trust you are smart and experienced enough to be able to flip the switch on your playstyle as scum. I've witnessed you both trolly and tryhard as mafia.
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Oh and I don't only need your alignments. I need to know if in your town games the guy who was posting in a constructed way was actually mafia.
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Can I get some cliffs? Why did people expect there to be 3 deaths in a 13 player mini at night.... Wont be caught up for awile
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On April 10 2015 19:58 sicklucker wrote:
Can I get some cliffs? Why did people expect there to be 3 deaths in a 13 player mini at night.... Wont be caught up for awile
The game has two vigis (one on each side).
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Ok but I would asume thats unlikely altho possible in an open setup (less likely it rngs both roles) altho my counterpart would disagree
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On April 10 2015 19:50 Vivax wrote:
Oh and I don't only need your alignments. I need to know if in your town games the guy who was posting in a constructed way was actually mafia.
1st I'm mafia just talking about the idea in general. So I'm not talking about anyone in paricular.
the other are about Onegu and GB. GB was town and Onegu was mafia.
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