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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 10 2015 08:36 GMT
#1681
On April 10 2015 15:19 Vivax wrote:
I wanna talk to Palmar but he stopped the transmission

I just woke up to check the flips. I didn't really intend to stay around at 5am and talk.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 08:40 GMT
#1682
Koshi why do you try to use night actions to argue that Palmar is town with such confidence if you were thinking he was town beforehand. I have issues with the reasoning and the reasons to use that reasoning. I just don't see them.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 08:42 GMT
#1683
I was thinking Palmar was town too (now less sure cause of his confidence into HF) but then I don't try to use night actions to argue for that, what's the point? I just don't see the motivation for writing that post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 08:44 GMT
#1684
On a sidenote I will play better now that rso is out of the way now that I don't have to deal with the nuisance of having everything I write being called shit.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 10 2015 08:48 GMT
#1685
On April 10 2015 17:40 Vivax wrote:
Koshi why do you try to use night actions to argue that Palmar is town with such confidence if you were thinking he was town beforehand. I have issues with the reasoning and the reasons to use that reasoning. I just don't see them.

I don't use the night actions to confirm Palmar his alignment. I just think the night actions with 2 vigs, a scum rb and a jailer hold a lot of information.

I believe town vig should claim his shot. Even if he shot Palmar. Only if he didn't shoot he should stay quiet. If the town vig shot HF, 1 mafia KP is missing and I am sure mafia would use the vigi immediately. This indicates that Palmar got saved or is mafia. I forgot about the mafia part for a sec. Bad from me.

So (mistakenly) I concluded purely looking from night actions point of view that Palmar was town for being shot.


Anyway Vivax, I am keeping civilized but you are boring me. I am not going to ask you questions anymore btw. On purpose.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 10 2015 08:53 GMT
#1686
Situation report:

7 vs 3
6 vs 3 ml
5 vs 3 nk -->mylo and even lylo because scum might have 2 kp, not that I believe that scum is holding vigi 2 nights in a row.


fun fact: If palmar is vig scum can rb Onegu and use 2 kp. Even if Onegu jailed Palmar. just fyi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 08:54 GMT
#1687
[QUOTE]On April 10 2015 17:48 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 10 2015 17:40 Vivax wrote:
Koshi why do you try to use night actions to argue that Palmar is town with such confidence if you were thinking he was town beforehand. I have issues with the reasoning and the reasons to use that reasoning. I just don't see them.[/QUOTE]

(1) I don't use the night actions to confirm Palmar his alignment.

(2) I just think the night actions with 2 vigs, a scum rb and a jailer hold a lot of information.


I believe town vig should claim his shot. Even if he shot Palmar. Only if he didn't shoot he should stay quiet. If the town vig shot HF, 1 mafia KP is missing and I am sure mafia would use the vigi immediately. This indicates that Palmar got saved or is mafia. I forgot about the mafia part for a sec. Bad from me.

(3) So (mistakenly) I concluded purely looking from night actions point of view that Palmar was town for being shot.


(4) Anyway Vivax, I am keeping civilized but you are boring me. I am not going to ask you questions anymore btw. On purpose.[/QUOTE]

1: Yes you tried. That's why I'm asking you all of this.

2: How? Palmar can be mafia or town. No information. Vig didn't claim. No information. HF and rso died. Wifom information.

3: It's an odd mistake to make.

4: Annoy me when you don't think I'm mafia and ignore me when you do? You don't want more information from the mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 08:55 GMT
#1688
On April 10 2015 17:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 17:48 Koshi wrote:
On April 10 2015 17:40 Vivax wrote:
Koshi why do you try to use night actions to argue that Palmar is town with such confidence if you were thinking he was town beforehand. I have issues with the reasoning and the reasons to use that reasoning. I just don't see them.


(1) I don't use the night actions to confirm Palmar his alignment.

(2) I just think the night actions with 2 vigs, a scum rb and a jailer hold a lot of information.


I believe town vig should claim his shot. Even if he shot Palmar. Only if he didn't shoot he should stay quiet. If the town vig shot HF, 1 mafia KP is missing and I am sure mafia would use the vigi immediately. This indicates that Palmar got saved or is mafia. I forgot about the mafia part for a sec. Bad from me.

(3) So (mistakenly) I concluded purely looking from night actions point of view that Palmar was town for being shot.


(4) Anyway Vivax, I am keeping civilized but you are boring me. I am not going to ask you questions anymore btw. On purpose.


1: Yes you tried. That's why I'm asking you all of this.

2: How? Palmar can be mafia or town. No information. Vig didn't claim. No information. HF and rso died. Wifom information.

3: It's an odd mistake to make.

4: Annoy me when you don't think I'm mafia and ignore me when you do? You don't want more information from the mafia?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 10 2015 08:59 GMT
#1689
1. No I didn't. It was the result from my analysis. I didn't try to clear Palmar with my analysis. It was the end product.

2. You are a ******* ******. **** you you ******* ***** ** ****. There is always information. And if there isn't. Analysis is the fucking basis of this game. That's what I did. Nothing more. Nothing less.

3. What? Your fucking bolded part doesn't even line up with the comment you make. Are you fucking shitting me here?

4. Because I don't want to talk to a complete and utter ******.



I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 09:01 GMT
#1690
Wow you should check a psychologist
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 10 2015 09:02 GMT
#1691
I am removing the subscription on this thread. I will come back in

Unlike all other games I did this I will come through this time. I enjoyed the game too much till that post from Vivax. Will the last 3 posts from Vivax. He can be lynched. And if town decided I am a better lynch than him. Grtz on him. It should be impossible. If town wants to lynch somebody not us, you do not have my support. But there are enough townies left to make it happen.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 09:02 GMT
#1692
The dice is cast, read this exchange please.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 10 2015 09:10 GMT
#1693
Vivax you're not helping yourself here.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 09:15 GMT
#1694
On April 10 2015 18:10 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax you're not helping yourself here.


All the points are true, you're a real idiot if you don't see it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 09:16 GMT
#1695
And when confronted Koshi goes full ad hominem.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 10 2015 09:19 GMT
#1696
On April 10 2015 18:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 18:10 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax you're not helping yourself here.


All the points are true, you're a real idiot if you don't see it.

No they aren't, I clearly see Koshi's POV and how he got to where he got with the night action stuff. I also see how he made the mistake he did.

I mean, what are you even accusing him of? Being mafia, and calling a player town when he shouldn't have? Makes no fucking sense.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 09:22 GMT
#1697
On April 10 2015 18:19 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 18:15 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2015 18:10 yamato77 wrote:
Vivax you're not helping yourself here.


All the points are true, you're a real idiot if you don't see it.

No they aren't, I clearly see Koshi's POV and how he got to where he got with the night action stuff. I also see how he made the mistake he did.

I mean, what are you even accusing him of? Being mafia, and calling a player town when he shouldn't have? Makes no fucking sense.


You make the common mistake of only looking at the content without evaluating the motivation. If Koshi was TRing Palmar anyway and already communicated it to the thread, what is the motivation to analyse night actions (wrongly) to reach a conclusion he already had?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22101 Posts
April 10 2015 09:29 GMT
#1698
On April 07 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
I guess I'll iterate in very short terms on each one. Almost all of these are crazy weak at the moment, but here's what I've thought:

Damdred sounds towny and aggressive. Again I liked him attacking GB at the start of the game.
Vivax just doesn't sound like mafia and he sheeped my case.
rsoultin is a pita. Mafia are rarely massive pita.
HF said something early that I liked. Also I'm wifom gambling on him doing this as town now.
yamato is just a tone read
ritoky because I am going to gamble that his trolling act is a town thing.

Eden: can't even remember a post
DR: has he posted?

Koshi voted rsoultin for being a pita to me I think. It wasn't awful but I didn't like it. Also his scumteam isn't all that great.
Onegu framed his play "I'm going to use a lot of lyrics". He's again doing that thing where he says he'll do something then delivers on it.
Obi because of the "Right" post in response to GB
GB because of all the reasons I've already posted.


These two reads make no sense.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 10 2015 09:41 GMT
#1699
On April 10 2015 18:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
I guess I'll iterate in very short terms on each one. Almost all of these are crazy weak at the moment, but here's what I've thought:

Damdred sounds towny and aggressive. Again I liked him attacking GB at the start of the game.
Vivax just doesn't sound like mafia and he sheeped my case.
rsoultin is a pita. Mafia are rarely massive pita.
HF said something early that I liked. Also I'm wifom gambling on him doing this as town now.
yamato is just a tone read
ritoky because I am going to gamble that his trolling act is a town thing.

Eden: can't even remember a post
DR: has he posted?

Koshi voted rsoultin for being a pita to me I think. It wasn't awful but I didn't like it. Also his scumteam isn't all that great.
Onegu framed his play "I'm going to use a lot of lyrics". He's again doing that thing where he says he'll do something then delivers on it.
Obi because of the "Right" post in response to GB
GB because of all the reasons I've already posted.


These two reads make no sense.

The first one is just a gamble so it's not really a good read.

The second one is valid though. It's just not a very strong one.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 10 2015 09:46 GMT
#1700
I am going to spend the first part of this cycle reevaluating.

I really really hope GB is mafia because then I can call holyflare superbad postgame. However if he's not then I guess we're both kinda bad.

At least I know HF is terrible. That warms my heart.
Computer says mafia
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