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Jar Jar:
Too long, didn't read. It's me summarizing my post.
And correct, everything suggests that he didn't have a strong read on me. But after he came back, he acted as if I was his top scum. Yelled at people with Trfel to switch to me before landing on Prpl.
There was no build up to him scumming me. Weak policy lynch read for lack of thread presence/lurking to "he's scum, I think he's scum, vote him." When I show up in thread casing him. So I might be scum for lurking but I deff am scum for showing up, interacting, making a case?
Prpl:
Ok. Fair point. This is why I wanted to interact with you. And I'm omw home from work. I should have clarified I'd be diving when I got home. But thank you for answering me. The first mistake you're referencing is plot, right?
If you're still willing to talk, and maintain you're town, there are 3 scum split between you and BD. If you really haven't learned anything else, am I correct in assuming Bourne is still your top scum?
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not gonna talk about my reads tonight.
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Well I'm not sure how much I'll be on today due to work, but I'll try to phone post whenever possible. Just in case I get shot:
Unless something drastically changes, prpl needs to die. I've mentioned that enough.
I can't shake this feeling about Trfel. His prpl townread throughout his worthless d2 feels wrong. Nothing to worry about today in any case. Probably nothing at all, really. If he's alive real late game, I'd worry, but not before that.
Breshke I'm starting to think is mafia more and more. I had some suspicions d1, but wasn't sure. D2 I have some problems with. He voted me for the ambiguous 4 reads which is fine. Then he asked me who my strongest read was on when it was obviously Prpl. How he uses my lack of a response, claims he needs to actually analyse my play(http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480171-newbie-student-mafia-vii?page=71#1420) and then says he's giving me a pass. Voted Shining for not delivering on stuff as a "third placeholder." Then he is ok with voting me or Shining before finally sheeping my case on Prpl when he said he hadn't looked at him.
If you browse his filter, it looks like he's scum hunting, but only ever on people not really lynch options while his actual lynch options are all due to non-indicative stuff. There is no logic or clear train of thought for his actions from town that I can see.
Additionally, look at his reasoning for voting prpl post lynch.
Now he thinks Shining is scum, Rso is scum and on TBD so Prpl is more likely to be Shining's partner than TBD.
That's the most ass-backwards reasoning for lynching someone you were leaning town on d1. Especially given he spent most of his day trying to prod me, how can he not even look into my case? I don't buy it.
Complete WIFOM, but I'm starting to think that them giving up on Prpl and him trying to get cred from the bus is actually viable based on how Prpl has been since and Bresh's reasoning. Got a bit before we need to deal with that though.
AFK Work
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Wait, so am I supposed to send my night actions to LoneMeow, Fecalfeast, or both?
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On April 16 2015 01:02 Trfel wrote:
Wait, so am I supposed to send my night actions to LoneMeow, Fecalfeast, or both? Or actually, can I just post them in the scum QT?
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you can post roleblocker action in QT, i have to do that myself
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On April 16 2015 01:06 prplhz wrote:
you can post roleblocker action in QT, i have to do that myself Can I submit your action for you?
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can't*
so the answer would be "no"
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who do you think we should shoot tonight trfel?
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On April 16 2015 01:09 prplhz wrote:
who do you think we should shoot tonight trfel? I kind of think we should shoot LoneMeow. Fecalfeast tends to be lazy, so if we shoot LoneMeow, there won't be any vote counts, so it will be extremely easy to mess with town in shenanigan votes.
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nah, fecalfeast is baller when he's on the ball lol xP plus vengeance!
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On April 16 2015 01:19 rsoultin wrote:
nah, fecalfeast is baller when he's on the ball lol xP plus vengeance! Shush, I need to make my joke work!
+ Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast is actually a very good host/cohost, haha. Maybe I should shoot him instead of LoneMeow 
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So, can anyone summarize or link me to the reasons that people are suspicious of Breshke? I'm reading his filter right now, and I'd like to see why other people are suspicious of him after I finish.
Thanks!
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On April 16 2015 01:20 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 01:19 rsoultin wrote:
nah, fecalfeast is baller when he's on the ball lol xP plus vengeance! Shush, I need to make my joke work! + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast is actually a very good host/cohost, haha. Maybe I should shoot him instead of LoneMeow
+ Show Spoiler +have you tested spoilers in the QT yet? he'll never find that we're shooting him there!
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On April 16 2015 01:21 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 01:20 Trfel wrote:On April 16 2015 01:19 rsoultin wrote:
nah, fecalfeast is baller when he's on the ball lol xP plus vengeance! Shush, I need to make my joke work! + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast is actually a very good host/cohost, haha. Maybe I should shoot him instead of LoneMeow + Show Spoiler +have you tested spoilers in the QT yet? he'll never find that we're shooting him there! + Show Spoiler +But if he doesn't see it, then he won't count the shot on himself? We sort of need the host to resolve the shot...
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 14 2015 13:51 rsoultin wrote:
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outside the lurkers, still weighing half-the-sky and bresh honestly...his day 1 was pretty damn good and maybe it's just cause he kept disagreeing with me lol >< but it just seems like he hasn't brought much to day 2 at all
[...] On April 14 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:the analysis on plotspot was actually pretty good (if wrong), and this isn't the first time he mentions "bunnying" up posts lol On April 11 2015 02:25 Bourneq wrote:On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads
Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.
I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.
Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.
rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.
Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.
prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.
Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.
jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.
Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.
Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.
I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.
I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.
Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me.
"Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically."
"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them.
"He's playing like a fucktard."
I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances
But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table.
I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia. i actually 100% agree with this post? xP like, i read it as prp trying to get discussion going, but prp your attempt was so blatant i don't see how you expected anyone to get a read on you from it? unless you expected a townread or something lol and saying something "to generate discussion" when it's that obvious i not alignment indicative for me (just ask trfel) so i see no problem with others feeling the same way, obviously On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. some of these points were clearly his misreading, for instance the omgus one, but lol i get where he's coming from on the dropped reads and you being so insistent on your bloody dwarf read xP i don't think these were bad points and i can see newbie town making them and coming to that conclusion On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote:On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign
maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Half the Sky This just seemed really unmotivated. On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote:
okey plotspot
##Unvote
##Vote plotspot Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.
He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum
he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me? i guess what it comes down to for me is on the spectrum of newbies bourne was more actively in the thread and analyzing than the others? lol i'll admit i wasn't really placing my expectations that high for some of the newer players, but i didn't see how he was worse than plotspot or...yes...dwarf xP who still has practically no reads -_- So I don't really get anything out of the first two posts but the first one is fairly hard for me tor ead because of formatting. (this is important later). The last post you have a good point about like he actually does seem to be thinking critically about the game and prps alignment. Another thing that makes me think bourne probably might actually be town is the difference in formatting between his first post that rso quoted and the last. The last is actually far more easy to read and improving your formatting to make your posts easier to read seems very townie to me because town actually wants people to read their posts where as scum is fine to be glossed over kind of. I don't actually think i want to lynch bourne today <3! lol sorry but your "no bad rso bad hts read" followed by sheeping what i perceived to be thread sentiment on bourne was giving me the willies. i expect more from you lol >< this makes me feel better about you (and not just cause you're agreeing with me) i don't think you ever answered why you're so certain on hts being town, though? On April 15 2015 04:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 04:41 The Shining wrote:On April 15 2015 04:24 rsoultin wrote:
shining, talk to me about bresh?
there's not a ton to say about tbd...he's a policy lynch through and through unless y'all are seeing codes in his posts somewhere Aside from what I said about him afking his "placeholder" vote on me for sleep, even though he hasn't so much as acknowledged my presence beforehand? See, others like you and Trfel have looked into me and questioned my activity. I couldn't find myself anywhere in his filter until the vote. It just feels like an effortless vote that can be defended as policy lynch. Also, his filter is very setup-centric and role centric. I can quote examples if asked but I'm on a phone. But time and again I see him talking about roles. Picking at Stutters possible bread crumb post. It feels less like genuine game solving and more like blue fishing. Also I tried to find some original thoughts in his filter. There are a lot of questioning of others' reads, then sheeping those. His possible scum list is basically Trfels. eh i've gone back and forth on him a lot this game. his filter is the next one i'm hitting. i like that he's reconsidered some of his reads, but it's usually at my prompting, too, so there's that -_- i don't remember much from him on day 2 either? On April 15 2015 05:08 rsoultin wrote:
lol what case hts? there was no case
read the filter and try again
i see what you're talking about, shining...granted i just went through his day 2 but it was essentially
- no no bad rso hts not scum
- pressure vote stutters
- let's kill bourne...eh wait maybe not
- setup speculation
- afk?vote on shining
i'm not seeing any real push of his own here and that does concern me from breshke -_- usually if he's not pushing his own reads, he's at least being a voice of reason but in this case he liked hts on a "gut read" lol ><
^ all the reasons pre-lynch, which basically amounted to a general absence of scumreads/scumhunting and a major fall-off in quality of his posting from day 1 (i can see shining's bluehunting point but lol i'm not really sold that's what that was, tbh)
post-lynch my biggest question is how shining went from policy to super!scum enough to explain that switch to prp lol >< he still hasn't explained the change in the strength of the read, though he did say he'd be gone, so there's that
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On April 16 2015 01:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 01:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 01:20 Trfel wrote:On April 16 2015 01:19 rsoultin wrote:
nah, fecalfeast is baller when he's on the ball lol xP plus vengeance! Shush, I need to make my joke work! + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast is actually a very good host/cohost, haha. Maybe I should shoot him instead of LoneMeow + Show Spoiler +have you tested spoilers in the QT yet? he'll never find that we're shooting him there! + Show Spoiler +But if he doesn't see it, then he won't count the shot on himself? We sort of need the host to resolve the shot...
+ Show Spoiler +maybe there's a special lonemeow only spoiler? xP better get on that! you know more about formatting than i do lolol
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On April 16 2015 01:11 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 01:09 prplhz wrote:
who do you think we should shoot tonight trfel? I kind of think we should shoot LoneMeow. Fecalfeast tends to be lazy, so if we shoot LoneMeow, there won't be any vote counts, so it will be extremely easy to mess with town in shenanigan votes.
Implying it isn't easy already 
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Wait, so how much suspicion is Breshke currently under?
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