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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 11 2015 19:45 GMT
#861
it just seems to easy to go in here and quote every other post and say "wtf"

big text wall on me saying nothing and then jumping on plotspot

same with stutters, don't like the way he's going on plotspot. says he wants to make a post, then doesn't and just half arsedly bandwagons.

but i don't really know if i can lynch plotspot. he is around and he is sort of defending himself in his own way but again it's a super bad way. it's like he's super mad at town for getting lynched (keeps saying he hopes scum wins) even when given outs (me and rso both said he should defend himself and that it's not over yet). this dumb stubborness just seems more likely to come from town than scum.

i also don't think my original points hold up about how he wanted the threads approval for changing his vote and then when i push him to change to bourneq he refuses. whatever he's thinking he's certainly not thinking "i need to change this dumb alphabetical vote". now he also just said "i just noticed in my filter that it's impossible to see what i'm talking about when i don't quote people", looks like he's going over his own filter and sees townie things but he's just resigned and doesn't want to explain them so he's just taking "i need to quote posts or nobody knows what i'm talking about" with him to next game.

like it seems like he thinks he's town, he thinks he can show he is town, but he doesn't give a fuck.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 11 2015 19:45 GMT
#862
On April 12 2015 04:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Am I making sense now prplhz (and others who might be in thread)?

dunno maybe i'm just a little dumb
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 11 2015 19:47 GMT
#863
On April 10 2015 09:43 plotspot wrote:
So If I say I like the people I like to win regardless whether they are mafia or town, what would you guys be able to read?

this post is so "pls notice me i'm edgy" and being provocative just seems more townie than scum to me.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 19:52 GMT
#864
On April 12 2015 04:45 prplhz wrote:
it just seems to easy to go in here and quote every other post and say "wtf"

big text wall on me saying nothing and then jumping on plotspot

same with stutters, don't like the way he's going on plotspot. says he wants to make a post, then doesn't and just half arsedly bandwagons.


Now I haven't read Soren's latest post, but one thing Palmar had taught me in another game was one townie quality would be knowing how to sheep a good case or when to do so, especially after townie behaviour from the person you're sheeping. I'll see if my thoughts still hold up.

On the other hand, it is D1, and most people's reads aren't great on D1. Will get through Soren's latter posting and I'll see if I have a problem with it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 19:55 GMT
#865
On April 11 2015 23:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stutters695. Checking his filter and I mostly see questions. Looks like he doesn't really have own opinion but is asking others what do they think.


One read from Dwarf, and this is pretty much it. Then again all I remember from Stutters IS questions. Hmmm.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 19:56 GMT
#866
On April 12 2015 04:55 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 23:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Stutters695. Checking his filter and I mostly see questions. Looks like he doesn't really have own opinion but is asking others what do they think.


One read from Dwarf, and this is pretty much it. Then again all I remember from Stutters IS questions. Hmmm.


EBWOP - if he hasnt posted anything new that IS scumlike behaviour.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 19:56 GMT
#867
EBWOP again - he being Stutters. If Stutters hasn't posted anything new, solely asking questions without conclusions is generally scumlike behaviour.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 19:57 GMT
#868
On April 12 2015 04:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 17:46 Tubesock wrote:
So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias.

I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems.

He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that.

Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all.

If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day.

He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks.


I don't have a problem with you saying this, I'm used to your tinfoil theories
But there's something I don't understand from a gameplay standpoint. (See bolded). Even if the cop, if we have a cop, checks him, how is he going to know who the cop is? How do you know the cop will out with a check esp this early in the game. I haven't played student game in awhile, checked the rules, and nothing is jumping out to me that indicates if he were scum, that he'd be getting any sort of added information this way. Am I misunderstanding you?

It would not get him any additional information but it would waste a cop check.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 11 2015 19:59 GMT
#869
When is deadline?
Try TL Mafia!!!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 11 2015 19:59 GMT
#870
2 hours i believe
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 11 2015 20:00 GMT
#871
scratch that, it's in 1 hour. check the OP there's a countdown at the top.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:00 GMT
#872
On April 12 2015 04:57 Bourneq wrote:
It would not get him any additional information but it would waste a cop check.


Right I get that, but I read that as if the cop would out right away or he indicated that so I wanted to make sure I wasn't going insane. I've played with Tube before and he's rolled off his tinfoil hat theories before and I'll admit I've had trouble understanding him in the past when he's explained hah.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:01 GMT
#873
On April 12 2015 05:00 prplhz wrote:
scratch that, it's in 1 hour. check the OP there's a countdown at the top.


My vote should be on plotspot, though I'm running through other filters to see if there's a better lynch than him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:02 GMT
#874
EBWOP - Thought I voted after I filter dove him. Whoops.

##vote plotspot
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:02 GMT
#875
On April 12 2015 02:29 plotspot wrote:
Ok it's not so important. ^^ means lie and no ^^ means truth. It's easy.


Uh. This is pretty late in the day. Has anyone done the decoder with Plot? What the what?

You guys should probably jump off Plot. This is I don't even know what this is. And the rest of his recent stuff.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 11 2015 20:03 GMT
#876
okay tube who do we lynch then?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:09 GMT
#877
On April 12 2015 01:46 plotspot wrote:
Lol I'm found out, why don't you all vote me? Then you don't have to discuss anymore why to vote anyone else. This might spare distrust within town.^^ Top readers here. Obviously I've made it look too easy. Too bad.^^


On April 12 2015 02:03 Stutters695 wrote:
##vote: plotspot

Generally if you're claiming scum you post a baby seal, but this works too I guess.


This post is for prplhz. You don't like Stutters for this jumping on plotspot. Do you think

1 he's naturally reacting to plot claiming scum
2 pretending to misinterpret his sarcasm

(Anyone else can answer this question too if they want.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:10 GMT
#878
On April 12 2015 04:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 17:46 Tubesock wrote:
So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias.

I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems.

He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that.

Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all.

If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day.

He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks.


I don't have a problem with you saying this, I'm used to your tinfoil theories
But there's something I don't understand from a gameplay standpoint. (See bolded). Even if the cop, if we have a cop, checks him, how is he going to know who the cop is? How do you know the cop will out with a check esp this early in the game. I haven't played student game in awhile, checked the rules, and nothing is jumping out to me that indicates if he were scum, that he'd be getting any sort of added information this way. Am I misunderstanding you?


Well, Prplhz pretty well covered this. I don't think Dwarf is doing a crazy play anymore.

I originally thought that he can basically do this.

1. be weird and softclaim vet and try getting a cop check.
2. if he gets in real danger of lynch then he can hard claim vet.

Town will jump off. While the real vet/doc weigh to CC or not. Then town wants to lynch him but maybe his team will talk town into letting the cop check him that night and mafia sort him out. Just like -Celestial- in that game you and I were in where you were Godfather. Plus, I just read Guardians and am a bit in awe of Toadessterns play.

Anyway, I was thinking that mafia could convince the cop to check him and hopefully get a CC out of it. The cop would reveal his check and then mafia would know both blues.

Prp and Breshke pointed out how that's just insane.

But I'm still thinking Dwarf is mafia and the better lynch. Especially with the weirdness of whatever Plotspots is doing.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:10 GMT
#879
On April 12 2015 05:02 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 02:29 plotspot wrote:
Ok it's not so important. ^^ means lie and no ^^ means truth. It's easy.


Uh. This is pretty late in the day. Has anyone done the decoder with Plot? What the what?

You guys should probably jump off Plot. This is I don't even know what this is. And the rest of his recent stuff.


My question to you Tube is if you don't understand what he's saying why don't you (attempt to) interpret it? Or respond to some of the things I said (and maybe others) on trying to interpret plotspot? You said you needed a "rosetta stone" device or something to understand him.

How do you know he's not playing dumb? I see too much crap from his end.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:13 GMT
#880
On April 12 2015 04:37 prplhz wrote:
okay i tentatively don't want to lynch plotspot anyway lol

can we lynch soren or stutters?


Man, I really like Soren. He seems really really town to me I can't let you lynch him. You were the first to mention how you liked him. What changed?

Stutters. Well, he has like 5 posts but they seem to have content and I read them and think he's at least thinking about the game. I think he's WAY more towny and useful than Dwarf or even Plotspot considering his weirdness.
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