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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 11 2015 20:46 GMT
#901
So we have a scum claim and you dummies don't want to lynch the shit out of him!?

Please tell me what I am missing? Or is it just that you guys are being bad.
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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 20:52 GMT
#902
Plot still seems like the obvious lynch to me. Stutters is certinatly a suspect but I see no reason in keeping plot around.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:52 GMT
#903
On April 11 2015 23:24 plotspot wrote:
Oh yeah why not. First of all people who are town and want to lynch me are overanalyzing my style of writing too much, since they have little experience with it. UNLESS you're mafia then you're of course playing the confused town, you're PLAYING the GAME. Congrats.

2nd I don't have any reads, as I think anyone is potentially suspicious and not at the same time. It's not certain enough for me to make any calls at the moment. Oh yeah is this suspicious? 50% of the people would think yes, 50% no. Yeah I'm calling the percentages.^^

Instead ask what other people think about you. From this thread I know that Half the Sky and Soren think I'm town. Many other people are unsure as to my aligment and a few people lean towards me as scum, but none are 100% sure I am scum.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 07:58 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:43 plotspot wrote:
Ok, now that the roles are out for everyone. How are we going to drag the opponents out of the shadows? Haven't read any suspicious things or anything that gives away anything. Poking with words in the shadows will really help?


Town read as this newbie is trying to learn how to scum hunt.


He will probably tell you now that he changed his opinion, due to progressed "interaction". Half the Sky provided some reasoning as to why she doesn't necessarily know that I'm town. But I'm not convinced. Based on the following post she thinks I think Onegu might be scum, although the reason I make this spontaneous post is because he was a disruptive element to the game by not paying attention, it doesn't matter what alignment he was.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.


Well we have 11 other users here. Would you all agree that this post is 100% indicative of me implying Onegu is scum? If not than it's a conclusion only reached by Half the Sky, no matter how well-phrased her explanations are that it comes from the post and not from some hidden knowledge. Anyway, if Half the Sky is town, you have to protect her to the very end, otherwise eliminate her now.


I agree with Rasputin that this post is awful. I'll point out what bothers me:

1 First paragraph - again sounds like dissausion, and funny that it comes after some of us forming reads based on his wording.

2 HATE that first sentence in second paragraph.

2nd I don't have any reads, as I think anyone is potentially suspicious and not at the same time.

Like that's an excuse to not make reads. Of course there's more than one way of scumhunting so I move to his next paragraph to see if what he says DOES make sense....

Instead ask what other people think about you. From this thread I know that Half the Sky and Soren think I'm town. Many other people are unsure as to my aligment and a few people lean towards me as scum, but none are 100% sure I am scum.

Using the word "instead" makes me think he's using this as a way to scumhunt, but where are the conclusions?

3 His followup on Soren.

He will probably tell you now that he changed his opinion, due to progressed "interaction". Half the Sky provided some reasoning as to why she doesn't necessarily know that I'm town. But I'm not convinced. Based on the following post she thinks I think Onegu might be scum, although the reason I make this spontaneous post is because he was a disruptive element to the game by not paying attention, it doesn't matter what alignment he was.

I disagree with this on many fronts. Reads SHOULD change if there's new evidence. Don't like it? Dispute it.
And Onegu was disruptive only to you - to me, I knew better, and others probably just ignored it. I know Rasputin said she was uncomforable with him but IIRC that was on different evidence.

I'm just smelling mafia agenda from this. And I don't know how it isn't.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 11 2015 20:53 GMT
#904
I just woke up why are people swapping to stutters???
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:54 GMT
#905
On April 12 2015 05:46 Onegu wrote:
So we have a scum claim and you dummies don't want to lynch the shit out of him!?

Please tell me what I am missing? Or is it just that you guys are being bad.


Where is your vote again?
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#906
##VOTE Stutters695
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#907
On April 12 2015 05:53 Breshke wrote:
I just woke up why are people swapping to stutters???


Basically, Plots been doing some weird weird scumclaimy play. Just in the last 3 pages. Makes me queasy and Prplhz also.

I'm basically sheeping Prp.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#908
On April 12 2015 05:46 Onegu wrote:
So we have a scum claim and you dummies don't want to lynch the shit out of him!?

Please tell me what I am missing? Or is it just that you guys are being bad.


prplhz for whatever reason isn't convinced. He had concerns on Stutters (which I sorta agree with, also along with Dwarf who said all he was doing was asking questions) and Soren (whom I still have to look into).

Stutters seemed like a reasonable lynch, one page filter which hasn't done much or driven things forward.

Ace/Shining is a policy lynch.

There are two votes on Stutters. There are 5 minutes left. Who else is around?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#909
Jesus Christ.

Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:56 GMT
#910
Breshke - look at Stutters filter. I haven't switched yet. One page. Mostly asking questions. He's stopping short of conclusions.

He also voted plotspot and prplhz thinks that plotspot is martyring.

I don't like either of plotspot or Stutters to be honest. But I can only vote one.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 11 2015 20:57 GMT
#911
Idk like i remember stutters making a read in me then trying to get ppl who townread me to talk about it. Seemed townie i probs wont swap.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 11 2015 20:57 GMT
#912
Huh, almost forgot. Was quite tense 2 heroes matches :D
Catching up now :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 11 2015 20:58 GMT
#913
On April 12 2015 05:54 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 05:46 Onegu wrote:
So we have a scum claim and you dummies don't want to lynch the shit out of him!?

Please tell me what I am missing? Or is it just that you guys are being bad.


Where is your vote again?



##UNVOTE
##VotelotSpot




Was trying to see if I missed something
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 20:58 GMT
#914
Stutters voted plotspot. Would someone bus someone this early in a newbie game?

He's a veteran, but probably not.

##unvote
##vote stutters695

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 11 2015 21:00 GMT
#915
On April 12 2015 05:57 Breshke wrote:
Idk like i remember stutters making a read in me then trying to get ppl who townread me to talk about it. Seemed townie i probs wont swap.


I realise there's practically no time to evaluate him now, but once prplhz and Dwarf drew attention to it, once I looked at the filter and the questions and the rest of what he had I'm just scratching my head. And that vote on plotspot, 15h afterwards, so he couldn't have been analysing him.

If I'm wrong I'm going to slap myself.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#916
Also rsoultin scum will tell you why in a case later, but basicly it has to do with her just looking like a busy body with 4/5 of her posts being questions. And a lot of her reads are based off of meta as the main part when she knows it's a terrible way to play.
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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
April 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#917
[image loading]

Night 1




plotspot the Vanilla Townie is lynched!

Final vote count:

TheBloodyDwarf (1): Soren333, Breshke, Tubesock, The Shining, Tubesock
Breshke (0): Onegu
The Shining (1): plotspot
Bourneq (0): prplhz
plotspot (7): Onegu, Breshke, rsoultin, prplhz, Bourneq, Soren333, Stutters695, jarjarbinks, Half the Sky, Onegu
prplhz (0): TheBloodyDwarf
Stutters695 (4): prplhz, Tubesock, TheBloodyDwarf, Half the Sky



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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#918
On April 12 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 09:10 plotspot wrote:
On April 11 2015 08:57 Half the Sky wrote:
I also don't like how plot said that TBD was a victim. When two posts prior, he says this.

On April 10 2015 09:34 plotspot wrote:
Why joke vote? It will stand as long as nothing else happens. It's not like Ace1312 feels totally threatened. At this time Bourneq will burn. Or even BloodyDwarf who a few people have on their list for certain acceptable reasons.


It's a bit contradictory in logic.


I think the word "acceptable" is the bad boy here right? I should have written "acceptable for them, in their kind of logic, to which I can agree to a certain degree, but not nailingly sure for me". I think Dwarf is a victim because, he has to justify himself and looks helpless, but that's also because he hasn't post alot right?


1 I point him out on the word "acceptable"
2 His quoted part of the sentence (which I've bolded) he is saying others are finding it acceptable but he's not so sure (not nailingly sure for me)
3 In his prior post, he said that Dwarf was a victim, but then by saying "he has to justify himself.....that's also because he hasn't posted a lot, right" he's already answered his own concern in #2 "not nailingly sure for me."


Just to get it right here. "he looks helpless, because he didn't post a lot to defend himself yet". It's not "he has to justify himself, because he hasn't posted a lot yet". It's also "anyone who needs to justify himself is a victim, regardless whether he is a rightful victim or not". Normally victim is usually in a negative sense for unjust things. I don't ALWAYS use it in that sense.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 11 2015 21:02 GMT
#919
On April 12 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters voted plotspot. Would someone bus someone this early in a newbie game?

He's a veteran, but probably not.

##unvote
##vote stutters695




I think rsoul is. My second newbie I bussed the shit out of my partners day one
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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 21:02 GMT
#920
Shit.
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