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Eden1892
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definitely not: sicklucker Vivax rsoultin Toadesstern Onegu Breshke raynpelikoneet Holyflare Damdred Eden1892 probably not: ExO_ Fecalfeast? Palmar? Trfel ehh/maybe: LightningStrike Superbia Fecalfeast? Palmar? Artanis[Xp] sure: Alakaslam VisceraEyes if vigs shoot out of my sure list i'll be happy if they shoot out of my ehh/maybe list i won't be bothered if they shoot out of my probably not list i'll be bummed if they shoot out of my definitely not list i'll be mad | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 05:56 Holyflare wrote: hmmm i'm pretty concerned about breshke and when I say pretty concerned I mean he's very likely mafia :/ his posting volume is worrying atm but when he's been here i've felt like it's town breshke why did you have ve as town btw? | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote: Can you stop posting wishlists and go into more substantial things cause christmas is long since over and I'm not santa claus. ya sure slam is very disconnected from the game which doesn't fit with the "i'm trying to be serious this game" mindset he says he's trying to bring. pretty simple case there. visceraeyes had a really weird rationale for getting on the toad wagon that didn't really look like a coherent, evolving picture of the game state. i also feel like he's been around a lot without really trying to find mafia and his posting level relative to the thread is right in the "comfortable" range where mafia want to be (active enough to avoid being accused of lurking but not super involved with the thread) | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote: eh you're one of those out of sight out of mind players for me; that's why you're one of my filter review dudes still get weird vibes from superbia but don't think he should be the shot | ||
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Eden1892
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+1 | ||
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vivax who you shootin bruh? slam yeah? toad who you shootin bruh? ve yeah? | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 06:23 Holyflare wrote: also, i hate large games fml lol 200 pgs first cycle | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 06:33 Toadesstern wrote: Okay Eden you're the only one I'm trusting right now. I'm not going to shoot VE. Period. Take that as me being serious. Do I shoot Onegu or do I listen to people? listen to people shoot slam since vivax hasn't confirmed he will and slam is a good shot | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 06:51 Toadesstern wrote: I spend like 2 hours to write this up and I'm pretty damn sure Onegu is mafia though what the shit did you even write up | ||
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Eden1892
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what the fuck are you doing | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 07:08 Toadesstern wrote: The vig is called by name. It's like someone claiming Batman in Arkham city and someone counterclaiming and people are "wait what if we have two fucking batmans" you guys are horrible i hear this, but last time i banked on logic like that, blazinghand was ACTUALLY the other jailer and i don't know the flavor well enough to try to see whether or not there can be 2 drax's | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote: I MEAN HES PROBABLY NOT RLY THE MEDIC I DOUBT DANDREDS THAT DUMB ITS JUST SOME FUN WIFMO calm down bro ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/today_I_saw_weird_shit_billy_madison.gif) | ||
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THE DISRESPECT | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 22 2015 13:03 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't even understand. Did you not read the post and assume? Sounds more like a half-assed fake dumbtell No of course I read it, that was a brick joke to let people know I'm coming and I'm hype as fuck | ||
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Eden1892
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The Mason Claims So first of all, Onegu. Just based off of the fact that Holyflare ran with the masons thing instead of trying to get Onegu lynched, I'm gonna assume HF thought Onegu was town. I'm not very good at meta reading Onegu and he hasn't done much of anything this game to make me think anything of him. I'm cool with sheeping Holyflare here tho. If we have the luxury of an alignment check on Onegu then we can figure it out that way, but tbh if he's legit the mafia will have to NK him as long as we don't collectively go full retard and make him lynchable. That said we shouldn't 100% believe Onegu's partner claim right now. Onegu already fakeclaimed a partner and he could very well be doing it again for kicks or for strategy or for whatever. Instead we should wait until ray comes back to the thread and confirms or denies that Onegu is his partner. I am reasonably confident he will and this issue will be resolved, but we maximize the value Onegu's able to get out of his play by simply letting this claim resolve itself, as it's soon to do. The Jailer Claim When the fuck are y'all just gonna take my word for it? I'm the fucking Prophet of Rsoultin by now. Seriously. Yes she's the jailer. Yes saving Onegu over Holyflare was silly, and yes doing it because medic dodge is even sillier. But hey, player who's relatively new to the blues side of the game rolls blue and plays suboptimally. Shocking. Film at 11. rsoultin is the real medic. The Orb Trfel, I appreciate your enthusiasm and good job catching mafia. But for future reference, in a situation like this, don't disclose that you got and used the orb right away. I understand the impulse and it's definitely from the right place, you think you have something good to share (and in this case you totally did!) and you wanna get it out right away. But you can maximize the value you get from your information, and extend your play to potentially catch mafia, with some reservation. LS is a relatively new player to mafiaside and he's known to have issues with busing his teammates. Imagine what you could have gotten out of pushing him on his reads list all day and then claiming your orb check with ~6 hrs in the day. There's probably a gold mine in that list, but now we gotta mine it ourselves instead of having him mine it for us. You obviously still did a great job, don't get me wrong, this is just free advice for the next time you end up with an investigative role. Investigative roles are powerful because they represent information the mafia don't have; they reduce the information gap between town and mafia. You don't want to put all your cards on the table until you're reasonably sure you got everything you needed from it. I would have had more to say on this, but I got the impression LS confessed (I didn't read the actual page(s) where it happened, but I read the leadup and I see people quoting what sounds like a confession). And honestly, there's no excuse for tracking a claimed mason at all, and marginal excuse for checking one. So this was pretty much in the bag. Good job Trfel. The Vigs Toad shot VE, Vivax claimed to shoot Slam but was roleblocked. I'm gonna second Artanis's filter/etc. argument on Vivax being town, because it's pretty convincing. Plus Vivax being roleblocked as it's known he was shooting Slam makes perfect sense given my suspicion of Slam. And knowing Vivax is town, mafia Toad is literally never going to counterclaim vig d1 and try to get him lynched. At this point I have no problem believing we have two vigilantes. continued... | ||
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Eden1892
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Player List: 1 sicklucker 2 Vivax 3 rsoultin 4 Toadesstern 5 LightningStrike 6 Alakaslam 7 ExO_ 9 Onegu 10 Breshke 11 Superbia 12 Fecalfeast 13 Palmar 14 Trfel 15 raynpelikoneet 18 Artanis[Xp] 19 Damdred 20 Eden1892 The first thing I have is that Alakaslam is mafia. This is a pretty easy case I made during the night. Here's the highlights:
The second thing I have is that Artanis is town. Artanis's activity level and involvement, especially since around the last 8 or so hours of d1, has really skyrocketed, and I believe it's well outside his normal mafia range. He's a really talented player and certainly capable of playing a good scum game; hell the guy's nominated for Best Mafia Performance for just that in a similarly big game. But he was a lot more background in that game than this one, easily. He's been driving home a lot of good points and coming to a lot of good conclusions. This guy is town. The third thing I have is that Damdred is town. He's been busting his ass this game with strong analysis in n1, he's been involved and despite not being the loudest voice in the room, generally making sure his reads aren't forgotten and his opinion is heard. This is big because mafia!Damdred is a lot more okay with being a background player. The other thing is his frustration over VE dying. This is a pretty noticeable tendency in Damdred's town game, he gets frustrated when people don't listen to him about his reads and do the opposite of what they would imply. He could fake this frustration as mafia, but you look at how he came back soon afterward and got right back to the grind and that's how you know it's genuine. The boy just won't quit. he's town. continued... | ||
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