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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 24 2015 12:39 GMT
#6763
On March 24 2015 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
it just is.

you have a 12 player setup which is already a little bit mafia sided

then you put in one role which actually receives bad information more often than it receives good information. really terrible.

It's not that it gives bad information more often, it is that nobody ever in history of TL mafia found it necessary to add 3 anti cop roles in a 12 player setup. So when town would have lynched the gf and miller, there is just no way you assume there is going to be a framer. It just shouldn't even cross your mind. That's the power of a blue role.

But due to excellent play of townies it was considered, which only happened because the excellent play of both parties.


But why would you even start a 9 vs 3 with 2 powerroles working for town and 2.5 powerroles working for mafia? If there was another blue on the townside I would kinda understand a cop. Because the claimvalue of a blue makes up for the miss information somehow. But 2 vs 2.5? Not balanced.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 24 2015 12:41 GMT
#6765
On March 24 2015 21:36 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, I'm sorry for being a dick to you. But you were a dick to me, and you were a dick to me when I was trying to be right, which is the most annoying time of all to be a dick.

I agree that the next time I am a dick to you I should try to be at least right about something.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 24 2015 12:43 GMT
#6766
Also, you don't really need to apologize. It was a lenient game and I took advantage of it. You took advantage of it.

By flaming each other in game we prevent a grudge.

Good stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 24 2015 12:44 GMT
#6768
But if it is really necessary:

I apologize as well for being a dick.

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I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 24 2015 20:54 GMT
#6822
cop rb unaware miller vs framer gf
9 vs 3
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 24 2015 20:57 GMT
#6825
The problem being that it is totally unprecedented that there is a gf and a framer.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2015 19:27 GMT
#6837
On March 26 2015 03:38 iGrok wrote:
Agreed. This setup looks fine to me.

The problem is that you guys are treating cop checks like they mean something, when really they don't. If you have a framer, godfather, and unaware miller, and a town RB, cop checks don't give you better than 50% chance of being accurate - at which point you're just as well off flipping a coin.

So really, this setup is somewhere between 8vt+1tracker and 8vt+1jailkeeper vs 3 mafia, which is pretty reasonable

You do realize town didn't know the setup right?

framer + gf is unprecedented. It was only "logical" that after the gf and miller flipped town assumed that the check should be respected.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2015 23:18 GMT
#6848
On March 26 2015 08:02 kitaman27 wrote:
There have actually been 15 games on TL with the framer + godfather combo, which is almost half of the total games with framers. Hosts are cruel individuals

Must be back in 2009 when town had those 5 wins 15 loss ratings in 9 vs 3. Or it were +20 player games.


I understand that town won this game. But come on.. Framer, gf and miller... If town knew the set-up nobody would give too many fucks about the copchecks. But in this case town didn't know and I didn't see a set-up like this in the lat 2 years.

But town won.
I had a good night of sleep.
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