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On March 12 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
You know what the problem is with rayns post? He is giving way more thought and reasoning for his townreads than for his scumreads. Now generally that is not a scummy thing but for him it is. Especially if he claims to read someone town for POE since his scumreads are so strong.
On March 12 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn is literally calling me scum for giving reads 1) and not giving reads 3).
On March 12 2015 05:01 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 04:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
You know what the problem is with rayns post? He is giving way more thought and reasoning for his townreads than for his scumreads. Now generally that is not a scummy thing but for him it is. Especially if he claims to read someone town for POE since his scumreads are so strong. What's the problem then? The problem is that you claim to POE off of your scumreads because they are so strong. It makes no sense if you don't have good reasons for them. Well i do have good reasons for my scumreads. No, you don't. I am not scum and even if I was then that would not be why. I gave early townreads as town before. Boom. Whole argument demolished.
that's just 3 posts. there are more after.
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On March 12 2015 05:09 justanothertownie wrote:
I am having the sickest flashbacks to when rayn went after me for bullshit reasons in russia today mafia.
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On March 14 2015 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Yeah, to some extent. And then i made more points on him because his arguments were shit...
and he continued to argue with you. And said you were mafia.
And didn't vote for you.
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I'm not even trying to call you mafia for this right now rayn.
My point is, you cannot say
"ritoky is town because jat pushed him"
when jat had a much larger counterwagon with better chances of saving himself, with me on it even, in you.
The logic falls apart. It's not a good reason to call ritoky town. If it makes ritoky town, it makes you mafia.
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On March 14 2015 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:42 marvellosity wrote:On March 12 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
You know what the problem is with rayns post? He is giving way more thought and reasoning for his townreads than for his scumreads. Now generally that is not a scummy thing but for him it is. Especially if he claims to read someone town for POE since his scumreads are so strong. On March 12 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn is literally calling me scum for giving reads 1) and not giving reads 3). On March 12 2015 05:01 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 04:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
You know what the problem is with rayns post? He is giving way more thought and reasoning for his townreads than for his scumreads. Now generally that is not a scummy thing but for him it is. Especially if he claims to read someone town for POE since his scumreads are so strong. What's the problem then? The problem is that you claim to POE off of your scumreads because they are so strong. It makes no sense if you don't have good reasons for them. Well i do have good reasons for my scumreads. No, you don't. I am not scum and even if I was then that would not be why. I gave early townreads as town before. Boom. Whole argument demolished. that's just 3 posts. there are more after. Like the first two arguments are terrible. They have nothing to do with what i said he is mafia for. The third argument is just wrong because it doesn't even counter my argument in the first place.
of course the fucking arguments are bad, he is mafia. that does not change that he argued it and it does not change the fact that he called you mafia.
yuo cannot POSSIBLY argue that he can't vote for you when he is arguing with you and calling you mafia
that's ridiculous rayn
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On March 14 2015 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:45 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not even trying to call you mafia for this right now rayn.
My point is, you cannot say
"ritoky is town because jat pushed him"
when jat had a much larger counterwagon with better chances of saving himself, with me on it even, in you.
The logic falls apart. It's not a good reason to call ritoky town. If it makes ritoky town, it makes you mafia. I do not see it that way. Like do you, as Koshi, argue JAT has given up and just votes for his scumbuddy?
my argument is that he doesn't matter who he votes for. he can vote for town and he can vote for mafia.
if he wants to survive, jat should vote rayn, with marvellosity
jat should vote rayn.
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On March 14 2015 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you show me a post where he actually calls me mafia marv?
On March 12 2015 06:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 06:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 12 2015 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
kinda like how rsoultin was obvious town right You also praised how town she was btw. Now get off your ass and push a lynch. one post what lynch are you pushing? Ritoky. But I can also lynch Palmar/Onegu or Rayn. Or damdred. Where the fuck are damdred and Palmar anyways? I guess scum just does not need to do anything right now.
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On March 12 2015 06:38 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 06:36 marvellosity wrote:On March 12 2015 06:35 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 06:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 12 2015 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
kinda like how rsoultin was obvious town right You also praised how town she was btw. Now get off your ass and push a lynch. one post what lynch are you pushing? Ritoky. But I can also lynch Palmar/Onegu or Rayn. Or damdred. Where the fuck are damdred and Palmar anyways? I guess scum just does not need to do anything right now. just for the stuff he has posted this evening (rayn)?? Mainly. He was not impressing me earlier but nothing I would lynch him for. I wanted to see what he would come up with today and he only came up with bullshit.
Like he is literally saying he would vote rayn for not being impressive and coming up with bullshit
----> doesn't vote rayn to try save himself
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On March 14 2015 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:yes he does. Main wagons: JAT, rayn. JAT says "i guess mafia just doesn't need to do anything". #confirmedtown
stop being ridiculous.
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Scum does not need to do anything because JAT (townie) is leading the votes.
Stop
being
ridiculous
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On March 14 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 01:01 Koshi wrote:On March 14 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 14 2015 00:55 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2015 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 14 2015 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
no he doesn't yes he does. Main wagons: JAT, rayn. JAT says "i guess mafia just doesn't need to do anything". #confirmedtown stop being ridiculous. no, you. for reals marv. how is that not calling me town? He is mafia. His point is: I am town and I am being lynched. mafia must be afk and laughning their ass off. Look at these names being afk: x y z And you are voting me because you think ritoky is mafia and i make sense with ritoky as mafia. Good logic Koshi.
Did you see the selection of quotes I made earlier from ritoky?
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Anyway rayn, while/if you look at what I posted about ritoky. Let me talk to you about Eden, and you can tell me where I am wrong, if you think he is mafia.
1) He is significantly more active than his mafia games
2) he pushed jat early, from fairly near the start, in a mostly natural way, and again at a good time near the end
3) His attention is shifting constantly, seeing mafia in people, accusing them (contrast 1 total vote in his last mafia game day 1)
4) His frustration seems real and genuine - compare to his last mafia game where he folded immediately when under pressure
5) he looked like a headless sheep at the start of d2.
I don't think some slip that doesn't look like a slip makes up for these things. But I am willing for you to tell me differently.
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On March 14 2015 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I base my ritoky townread on the these facts:
- I know i am town, i was the opposing wagon to JAT
- I don't think JAT would bus, i don't think JAT would give up because there was a lot of time left
- Everyone was at least sorta scumreading (or null-reading) ritoky at that point
- therefore he is the easiest wagon to push (besides Onegu, which is one of the reasons i think Onegu is mafia)
- JAT pushes ritoky
- JAT did not give up in my opinion, he was coasting by with me being on the chopping block. When i made my case on him, he got SHIT ACTIVE when suddenly HE is the one being (at least possibly) lynched.
The only reason i would think ritoky is mafia is if JAT just gave up. Which is clearly not the case here. Even more ridiculous is to say i am mafia with him. There are many things (besides the JAT lynch) that point towards me being town so fucking heavily. So Koshi, go read again. Or rather:
- Do you think i gave up? I don't give up as scum, or if i do i just antagonize marv.
- Do you think there is a fucking world (after Noir) where i do not kill marv on N1?
Two things:
The entire first half is invalid. I explained why already. jat would vote town-rayn with marvellosity.
To the bold: do I need to go find a post you made somewhere not so long ago where you said you would not even shoot me n1? Because I know you made it. I just don't want to go have to find it.
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On March 14 2015 01:15 Damdred wrote:
Void mafia, JAT busses SL and almost gets him lynched. Day two JAT busses HTS and hts gets lynched.
I think your point 2 is pretty meh, jats stated I think in void post game if he thinks he can get the town cred h will bus with abandon. I think that sorta invalidates the rest of that read
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I think we should just all agree that I have been megatown the last few hours and call it a day.
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On March 14 2015 01:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
I think we should just all agree that I have been megatown the last few hours and call it a day. Why is your vote on town ritoky?
Because I am not playing this sort of the game at the moment.
I think there is an excellent chance ritoky is mafia based on what I posted, and I also see and understand what Palmar was saying about over-trolliness.
Yes rayn is making not very good arguments right now. And he is the person I keep voting. And maybe I will again. But i let this flesh out
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On March 14 2015 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway rayn, while/if you look at what I posted about ritoky. Let me talk to you about Eden, and you can tell me where I am wrong, if you think he is mafia.
1) He is significantly more active than his mafia games
2) he pushed jat early, from fairly near the start, in a mostly natural way, and again at a good time near the end
3) His attention is shifting constantly, seeing mafia in people, accusing them (contrast 1 total vote in his last mafia game day 1)
4) His frustration seems real and genuine - compare to his last mafia game where he folded immediately when under pressure
5) he looked like a headless sheep at the start of d2.
I don't think some slip that doesn't look like a slip makes up for these things. But I am willing for you to tell me differently. Sorry i'll go look at your ritoky post after answering this. Just tell Koshi to stop. I don't know anything about Eden's meta. There is not a game (until recently) where i have closely read his posts because from my experience he tends to be like Palmar but worse (trolly as either alignment -- but when he posts i don't get much out of it). What i CAN say about your points is: 1) see above
2) Eden busses, he bussed SL in the PM game from the start.3) Based on that game (where i actually read her posts after Koshi told me to) i agree 4) yes this is something i noticed aswell -- it is a good point 5) everyone was a headless sheep at the D2 start from what i read. Nobody had any fucking clue what was going on. That's why Eden's first post stood out, it looked like he knew what was going on.
If you know 2
You also know that he was much, much less active in that game. So you kinda know 1 also.
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ok ok
all i mean is you know how active he is there
and you see how active he is here.
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On March 14 2015 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys do you think a Doctor Roleblocker setup be a little to strong for a 9-3 setup?
nope
Cop/doctor/rb is fine for 9-3
mafia have 3:1 winrate in 9-3 games.
RBer is a pretty weak role.
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