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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:21 Snarfs wrote: Probulous and Damdred... those are the first two filters you read. Fantastic. Yeah this is bad. Like real bad. Come on shining thoughts on the current vote leaders not those who are not up for a lynch. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:20 KelsierSC wrote: he said he liked snarfs post I said was it because "he called me and artanis mafia" tormented carried on like "im not calling you mafia anymore..." but the thing is snarf didn't actually call me mafia in his post and he didn't want to lynch me. so tormented didn't even read what snarf wrote. i get where your mind is, but that doesn't mean what you think it means you implicitly asserted that he thought you were mafia. his comment was to correct your implied assertion | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Shining, focus on Snarfs and Wave. I need to revisit Wave myself. Why not Tormented? Why not tell the new guy to focus on reading the guy you've been "tunneling" all day when we probably would have 3 votes on him right away and Shining would make a 4th!? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote: "Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control. And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
It's been an interesting past hour. I liked snarf initially. but since his return he has done a few scummy things. - He made his points about node, how he couldn't see a town perspective. - He then said he wanted to vote tormented. when given the choice voted me despite the fact that tormented and node had called me mafia. - then said artanis was the top lynch despite not really bringing him up. - said he wasnt sure who artanis was voting. SO then I like some of the people on the snarf vote wave,artanis, im starting to like yamato, damdred was on their but I'm so convincing he moved. we have like several possible counter wagons submitted but no one really wants to move off, this feels pretty good to me. like mafia poking for traction. then awesomely whats his torment tries to move off , but he makes up a reason. which makes me feel even better. Now we have this panic counter wagon attempt on Wave. which I dunno, feels sort of bad. I want to see this lynch go through because I can almost feel the game right now ##vote Snarfs | ||
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_Tormented_
United States157 Posts
On February 26 2015 07:15 Snarfs wrote: Eh fuck it ##Vote: artanis[xp] At least my vote's on someone I think is mafia. I don't like Wave, yamato, or Kelsier as lynches. I agree with all of these currently. They've been some of the most active people in the thread for the last 24 hours. Plus I was townreading Wave and yamato early on. Kelsier has been a lot better today than a lot of other people, which is unfortunate if he's mafia, but completely town's own fault. I don't know why sicklucker town read me but I don't think it makes him mafia. He was super nonchalant about it, like I believed he believed it. Especially since it was for... not the best reasoning. I think mafia would try to provide a reason. I would like to see more from SL before I make a judgement on this I've followed Eden's thought process just fine and she/he has no real reason to not lynch me. The Shining is playing like she/he just finished reading Ace's mafia manifesto, which looks like how she/he played her last mafia game. I.E. Do as little as possible to not get lynched. (reminds me of when I nailed Ace for doing exactly this /nostalgiatear). I'd lynch the fuck out of her. Possible as I have seen the shining post on sk in the last couple days Tornak and Tormented are 'eh', to steal yamato's phrase. Could be mafia in one of them but Tornak is so sweet and innocent and calls me Scarfs which is so cute I couldn't possibly lynch him. Tormented... eh. Still think he could be mafia, but if artanis is, then he probably isn't. I actually believe Tornak is town Damdred, probably town. Though his waiting for Tormented to make a case on me before deciding himself has points against him. Almost positive he is town, either that or I am way fooled. Probulous... not sure. He's done his giant reads posts in the past in order to make himself towny. I think he falls off a bit though if he's mafia so I'd give him a pass for now. So far doesn't seem scummy at all Eden... dunno. Seems intelligent, which means hard to read. This one I changed on and I do believe he is actively trying to find scum Node has only Wave's point going for him, which is 'why would mafia say something so dumb'. But if you've been around awhile, maybe as mafia you just post whatever you want and let people think exactly like Wave does. I'd still lynch him. Node has done very little so far to help besides target snarf, I do think snarf is probably a town now, so that will effect my thoughts on Node So ya, artanis, The Shining, maybe Tormented, maybe Node. Unfortunately in that list, only Tormented had pressure of any sorts on them. That's where I stand. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Yes, Snarfs, those are the filters I read. I saw a case on Damdred and I saw a few people mention Prob being under the radar. So yeah. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:24 Snarfs wrote: Why not Tormented? Why not tell the new guy to focus on reading the guy you've been "tunneling" all day when we probably would have 3 votes on him right away and Shining would make a 4th!? Because I was the only one voting for him for a long time and I didn't detect any will from people to vote for him. I figure you and Wave are the most likely people to get lynched, so putting the attention there with little time remaining is a good idea. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:21 yamato77 wrote: he's not going to be here wtf are you doing? I don't like a Snarfs lynch, he is active trying and willing to be wrong. Artanis is spammy as hell but so are others and he has been pushing his tormented case all game. He is at least active and trying to find scum. Wave has done absolutely nothing all game despite being asked for it. Many times. He wasn't a lynch target so he just AFKs. Classic scum. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:27 The Shining wrote: Snarfs is town. Wave I think I can vote for, actually in his filter now. Yes, Snarfs, those are the filters I read. I saw a case on Damdred and I saw a few people mention Prob being under the radar. So yeah. Why is Snarfs town? | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:27 Probulous wrote: I don't like a Snarfs lynch, he is active trying and willing to be wrong. Artanis is spammy as hell but so are others and he has been pushing his tormented case all game. He is at least active and trying to find scum. Wave has done absolutely nothing all game despite being asked for it. Many times. He wasn't a lynch target so he just AFKs. Classic scum. He didn't just AFK, he has a fucking job and a family dude wtf | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
filter On February 26 2015 02:29 KelsierSC wrote: Artanis 's point is that yamatos retraction from torment is unreasonable and possibly Yamato was soft pushing on torment to create seperation between them. Hmm that makes more sense. I'm still annoyed he didn't try to analyse me at all given the last 12 hours or so. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 17:35. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##unvote Clearly i've been gone too long Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 17:37. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 02:35 KelsierSC wrote: Its hard to analyse everyone in the game and go back over them etc. Assuming node isn't a lynch target..where would you vote. You can vote me if you want a free town read from SL But that's as much use as.a third tit Probably Tormented. I mean, if no one else reads artanis as scum then I'm probably wrong about that as well. And I did think his response to my case was forced. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 17:44. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote: Why was his response to your case forced? He went against the grain instead of sheeping or trying to pocket you. Do you think that's more likely to come from town or mafia? My phones dying but he just didn't even seem to consider my points. If I had to pick one of those three Kels it's be you. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 17:47. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter Partly because I could see HtS was being wishy washy with reads, partly because I believe it would be a good scum tactic to replace into a game and try to be so spammy that people would town read you for it because why would scum do that? You seem confident enough to try that. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 17:48. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##vote KelsierSC Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 19:36. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter Replying to this post in bold since it seems to sum up your case on me. Let me know if I miss anything. On February 26 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote: I stopped pushing it for two seconds waiting on hts to do stuff then kel replaced in theris a bit of a difference I think. I didn't write a case exactly, and after I said I would back off I still wrote why I think they are scum and pressured kel and eden. Here we have, someone go I think this person is mafia! A few hours later they give a meta post explaining why they were wrong and they are now town. However you have pro I think it was say this wasn't the snarf he remembers and he would of went for the throat. Directly after this he comes up with a hard scum read on node when everything he scum read that person for had already happened in the thread before he made the town read. Kind of embarassing to admit since it (the idea, not the read) seems terrible now, but I thought it'd be really cool if Prob said that and then I could come in and drop a sick scumread and nail someone and everyone would lynch him and I'd be crowned in glory. Prob would be all "yeaaaaaaa" and I'd be all "that's right boys, still got it". So I put my best case together which happened to be Node at the time and I posted it. Also, not everything had already happened. My third point, which I've tried to make clear I feel is the strongest point, had not happened yet when I gave him a town read. He then under light pressure and no push to get people to consier node as mafia says hes been gone to long drops it. Says artanis is scummy, drops it after nobody agrees, moves on to say he would lynch tormented. Then votes kel a few seconds later for hts being wishy washy. A lot of people came into the thread between last night and this morning and essentially either ignored the case or implied it was bad. Not a single person thought I had a single good point. Why would I try to push that? Kel demanded I vote him, sl or yamato. I think Kel is the most likely scum so fuck it, why not? And I would vote Tormented if he was up for debate, but I actually agree with Kel that we should be deciding on a lynch at this point, not adding more people into the equation. Its a totally different thing Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 19:53. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 04:47 KelsierSC wrote: Seriously does no one do cryptic crosswords. That makes me sad Wave said he did On February 26 2015 00:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Shits really hard. I've tried. You have to know all those tricks and what keywords to look for going in. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 20:19. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##unvote Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 20:35. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 04:54 Eden1892 wrote: I kinda get this Yoda Zen sense that Artanis might be mafia but I'm not even entertaining it seriously unless/until Wave flips scum. Eden, can you explain this to me please? Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 20:58. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter Eden, could you please stop arguing with yamato and explain the Wave/artanis association? Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:02. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter Let's see... Wave parked a vote on me without actually calling me scum, Kelsier hasn't given a read on me and artanis hasn't given a read on me. All that seems way more scummy than anything I've done. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:03. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 06:01 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + I'd rather not tbh, not a lot of time and it's weak. The gist of it is that Artanis was pretty clearly steering the lynch toward yamato and away from Wave right as I was starting to feel like Wave was the right lynch of the two, and it wasn't convincing. But it's BS unflipped associations until Wave flips scum so I didn't want to waste time on it. Will you lynch Wave with me today? Probably but I'd rather lynch artanis. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:06. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 06:04 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + I mean, look at this stuff. "you have my sword!!!1!1!" yet he doesn't vote, and follows it up by asking a puffball question. ugh. /shrug. I was feeling the Tormented lynch, I agreed with everything you said when you first laid out a case. Who cares if I voted or not, I made it clear I agreed with you. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:08. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 06:06 KelsierSC wrote: snarf do you have a strong scum read? artanis right now is my strongest read. Take it for what you will. I thought his attack on Tormented was an identical rehash of what both myself and yamato said at pretty much the same time. I asked people about him and he called me out for asking people about him, but then never bothered to check my filter or try to determine my alignment. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:10. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 06:07 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + ...ok, that's actually pretty sensible. I don't agree with your reading him as insincere though. Call me a sucker I guess but I really don't see what he's done that is improbably town. If we just accept that he's not the best townie by TL mafia standards then most of this pretty much disappears tbh. I really need you to tell me why you're so sure Wave is town though before I can consider going anywhere else today. @Snarfs lol no I'm probably not lynching Artanis today. I'm not all that suspicious of him and I don't think there's any traction for that. I really think it has to be Wave I got excited when both yamato and I said the same thing about Tormented at the same time. Hence the sword comment. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:12. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 06:10 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + Didn't you say you wanted to lynch tormented though when I asked you though? Probably. I still do want to lynch Tormented. And yes, I get that probably him and artanis are not scum together. But I don't know which one is. At this point, with artanis admitting to not even trying to read me, I'd rather lynch artanis. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:22. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 06:15 yamato77 wrote: Show nested quote + Really doesn't mean much tbh I have meta reasons but I don't feel like quoting all the stuff I read from his previous games. He's playing how he plays as mafia. As town he's much more direct. lol. I've changed in 2 years, I'll give you that. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 21:27. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter On February 26 2015 06:23 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + Now you sound like you're agreeing with yamato's read that your tone/etc. is different from your past town games. Without giving a big life spiel or anything, how would you say you changed such that your game is impacted this way? I'm having a lot more fun this game. I'm way more relaxed than I would have been as town OR mafia. Sure, maybe it makes me a worse town player, but at least I don't want to shoot myself every time I'm wrong about something. Snarfs Canada. February 25 2015 22:15. Posts 834 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter Eh fuck it ##Vote: artanis[xp] At least my vote's on someone I think is mafia. I don't like Wave, yamato, or Kelsier as lynches. They've been some of the most active people in the thread for the last 24 hours. Plus I was townreading Wave and yamato early on. Kelsier has been a lot better today than a lot of other people, which is unfortunate if he's mafia, but completely town's own fault. I don't know why sicklucker town read me but I don't think it makes him mafia. He was super nonchalant about it, like I believed he believed it. Especially since it was for... not the best reasoning. I think mafia would try to provide a reason. I've followed Eden's thought process just fine and she/he has no real reason to not lynch me. The Shining is playing like she/he just finished reading Ace's mafia manifesto, which looks like how she/he played her last mafia game. I.E. Do as little as possible to not get lynched. (reminds me of when I nailed Ace for doing exactly this /nostalgiatear). I'd lynch the fuck out of her. Tornak and Tormented are 'eh', to steal yamato's phrase. Could be mafia in one of them but Tornak is so sweet and innocent and calls me Scarfs which is so cute I couldn't possibly lynch him. Tormented... eh. Still think he could be mafia, but if artanis is, then he probably isn't. Damdred, probably town. Though his waiting for Tormented to make a case on me before deciding himself has points against him. Probulous... not sure. He's done his giant reads posts in the past in order to make himself towny. I think he falls off a bit though if he's mafia so I'd give him a pass for now. Eden... dunno. Seems intelligent, which means hard to read. Node has only Wave's point going for him, which is 'why would mafia say something so dumb'. But if you've been around awhile, maybe as mafia you just post whatever you want and let people think exactly like Wave does. I'd still lynch him. So ya, artanis, The Shining, maybe Tormented, maybe Node. Unfortunately in that list, only Tormented had pressure of any sorts on them. That's where I stand. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
##Vote wave Let's do this rd end masculine words have swayed my heart of stone | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:27 Probulous wrote: I don't like a Snarfs lynch, he is active trying and willing to be wrong. Artanis is spammy as hell but so are others and he has been pushing his tormented case all game. He is at least active and trying to find scum. Wave has done absolutely nothing all game despite being asked for it. Many times. He wasn't a lynch target so he just AFKs. Classic scum. thank you | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:28 yamato77 wrote: He didn't just AFK, he has a fucking job and a family dude wtf ...ok? so does everyone else here ...well, mostly i guess? point being, RL shit happens to everyone. that's not really an excuse for repeatedly saying "damn i have to reread this game it's so hard" for an entire day and then not getting anything done like if some irl issue or w/e has been keeping him from being able to do it, i would have figured he would mention it by now? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On February 26 2015 08:28 yamato77 wrote: He didn't just AFK, he has a fucking job and a family dude wtf Right, sorry man. I'm not trying to be personal. I don't know what his personal circumstances are. Fact remains though, even without answering my question he has provided nothing to this thread despite saying multiple times he would go away and think about things. | ||
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