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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 20:06 GMT
#1012
On March 04 2015 05:02 Kurumi wrote:
Greetings friends!

I am back with great news: many of you have filled the N1N-7S form! Corporation is very thankful for the information you have provided and shall act accordingly. It's amusing how they don't know they count as Mafia for checks!!! Happy behind their vest, happy under their desk, but clueless like light in a prism! I have prepared raynpelikoneet's gun for today's Big Shot! He paid a fair price let me assure you, and he is not going to be disappointed! The employee I fired some hours ago started a kickstarter campaign for fire-safe candles! That's the spirit, too bad we own the kickstarter platform he is using... Not surprising, he was just a HR assistant...

I have now updated my list!

Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam

kitatheman27
Foolishness
your mom

ObiWanShinobi


I'll remind you again to ##Request Checkup so you don't embarrass yourself during the Big Shot!

Another thing: my secretary told me that my behaviour towards employees isn't exactly as it should be - she fears that I am becoming a shut-in with all this Talk-Only-Through-Emails-or-On-Meetings. Lucy is a bright and beautiful woman so I heed her advice. This is a fifteen minute AMA with your favourite CEO! Face to face! Don't ruin it!


What changed your mind about Slam?

Why is spirit Foolishness in your list? Or even how?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 20:20 GMT
#1028
On March 04 2015 05:14 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:06 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:02 Kurumi wrote:
Greetings friends!

I am back with great news: many of you have filled the N1N-7S form! Corporation is very thankful for the information you have provided and shall act accordingly. It's amusing how they don't know they count as Mafia for checks!!! Happy behind their vest, happy under their desk, but clueless like light in a prism! I have prepared raynpelikoneet's gun for today's Big Shot! He paid a fair price let me assure you, and he is not going to be disappointed! The employee I fired some hours ago started a kickstarter campaign for fire-safe candles! That's the spirit, too bad we own the kickstarter platform he is using... Not surprising, he was just a HR assistant...

I have now updated my list!

Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam

kitatheman27
Foolishness
your mom

ObiWanShinobi


I'll remind you again to ##Request Checkup so you don't embarrass yourself during the Big Shot!

Another thing: my secretary told me that my behaviour towards employees isn't exactly as it should be - she fears that I am becoming a shut-in with all this Talk-Only-Through-Emails-or-On-Meetings. Lucy is a bright and beautiful woman so I heed her advice. This is a fifteen minute AMA with your favourite CEO! Face to face! Don't ruin it!


What changed your mind about Slam?

Why is spirit Foolishness in your list? Or even how?


Hello Tubesock! Have you had your gun polished lately? No? How about giving me your gun for a while so I can make sure it works? We'll agree on the price in private, I am sure you'll be another happy costumer!

What change of mind? Everything is documented! I always push for good documentation! It is really important to know how much coffee is drunk every day and how many poor souls have to drink decaf thanks to our Corporate Random Decaf Generator™

It is true that many CEOs have outlandish beliefs, but I am not one of them! There are no spirits, ghosts, ghouls, religious ghouls, evil doppelgangers or little green Martians! That's a codename I tell you! We do it all the time in C.O.R.P.O.R.A.T.I.O.N.! A must nowadays with all the corporate espionage, you understand.


your last town post is the only post you mention Alakaslam. Where is the documentation? I missed it.

I am a lowly fileclerk. I do not understand the magic you use to find Foolishness, to me he is but a ghost. Casper or ...?

Upper management usually don't have my interest at heart. My gun will only go to Toadesstern or Raynepelikoneet.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 22:27 GMT
#1169
Please don't shoot Koshi, or LS. Koshi seems pretty genuine, and if he's mafia we can still get him tomorrow. LS is being typical LS. If he isn't appearing scummy then I'd be worried, but he's being normal for him. He's wonderfully frustrating that way.

It doesn't seem like anyone is actually in support of my vote count posts so I'm not going to do one. I've only seen like 2 ##vote XYZ from people (Toad, LS, and Robik) but most everyone has said it's a stupid idea. Maybe some of your guys' belief that this town won't shoot in less than an hour is possible.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 22:39 GMT
#1191
On March 04 2015 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
lol yeah don't shoot ls, robik

he just basically populated half his null list with people who have rolled scum before -amused-

WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT READ. HE LITERALLY JUST MADE A LIST POST FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING A LIST POST RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOT. WHAT SANDRO POINTED OUT IS 100% ACCURATE AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO SHOOT HIM EVEN MORE. DEFENDING HIM IS NOT A FUCKING SMART MOVE


Seriously, Robik, LS does this type of thing all the time. It looks so bad, but he's going to flip town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 22:59 GMT
#1235
If Batsnacks shoots, I'm voting him for lynch. With what's going on, this is such a bad town move.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 01:03 GMT
#1365
@FecalFeast - I'm the windman because I fly, it's something we (Slam and I) have in common we learned in Carol. He's used this in reference to me before but this is probably the first in game.

So, why isn't more people interested in what Batsnacks has to say about his shoot deadline actions? ie pushing for a shot to basically insure that someone was going to shoot. Like he really egged it on. I can't believe he did this from a towny perspective.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 07:58 GMT
#1473
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game


Why do you think I'm not playing?

I wasn't in the game, but I read one of Sickluckers scum games and the difference I thought was I was less irritated at him. He seemed more coherent and less crazy assed "plays". Imperial as town SL soft and hard claimed cop I think it was and it was such a ridiculously bad play it really turned the thread upside down. In Carol he was constantly talking presents and doing weird shit with Holyflare.

He's been so agreeable this game. It's weird. No plays, no guys do this then we are in auto...or any crazy thoughts. Like every post makes sense on the first read.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:12 GMT
#1479
On March 04 2015 17:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 16:58 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game


Why do you think I'm not playing?

I wasn't in the game, but I read one of Sickluckers scum games and the difference I thought was I was less irritated at him. He seemed more coherent and less crazy assed "plays". Imperial as town SL soft and hard claimed cop I think it was and it was such a ridiculously bad play it really turned the thread upside down. In Carol he was constantly talking presents and doing weird shit with Holyflare.

He's been so agreeable this game. It's weird. No plays, no guys do this then we are in auto...or any crazy thoughts. Like every post makes sense on the first read.


I'll reread your filter, Tube, but from what I recall most of your game presence was trying to organize a shot...something which is more towny to me than scummy, but not if you're not contributing much else lol. With the personalities in this game, a shot at deadline is kinda inevitable, but having people actively talking about it and taking stances was pro-town so I was happy to encourage it.

Yeah that's kinda the vibe I'm getting. LS asked me if SL making sense is a scum tell, and I'm not sure that it is, but he really does make me want to stab things most times when he's town cause of all the crazy. Plus, I mean, not trying to shoot anyone doesn't feel like SL to me. He picked a player I consider to be clear town (geript) pushing a mostly undisputed shot (koshi) and championed that. Super safe play. Then had no one as a back-up.


Ah, well outside of the plan I don't think I've done anything memorable either so I see where you are.

I've never had so many town reads before with no real scum reads. I'm voting Batsnacks in the daytime as I think he's scum and for good reasons too.

I think I'm too biased on Sicklucker to actually push any case on him. So, if I ever vote him it's because it's a sheep from one of my higher tiered towns. Sick is damned smart, and I remember him saying somewhere he wanted to change his D1 behavior so he can be lazy. Him not making plays sure qualifies as lazy by his standard if you want to call it that. So, he could really be town. Ugh.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:17 GMT
#1482
On March 04 2015 17:11 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I should have looked at your filter earlier.

Rsoul does not approve of killing Tube tomorrow <3 Do you have an opinion on sepu or damdred, while I've got you in-thead.


I've damdred to read next. But I can't think of anything he's done. He's not even listed under my notes he's so forgettable and I have Keirathi getting a "not a single thing" (although this was/is prior to the shooting and will change).

Sepulchre I'm pretty certain I'm going to have some Tin Foil Hat theory on. I can feel it perculate. Most his thoughts seem "off". I'm assuming he's one of the veterans who have posted and complained about the spam in TL mafia games in that spam thread.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:19 GMT
#1484
On March 04 2015 17:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 17:10 Keirathi wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:57 rsoultin wrote:
okay, double-checked on time and context

2.5 hours, not seeing rayn in the thread at the time that damdred was there. damdred may be scum, but I don't think it's for that reason, keir

Oh, for some reason when you quoted that post, it changed the time stamp back to TL time instead of local time. So that post where he said "YM looks okay" or whatever was after the time I was looking at where he came back ot thread.

Stupid TL time stamps fucking with me.

Anyways, I do still think it's weird that his only thoughts on YM were "YM looks okay" then "YM didn't look bad, what was the malfunction" even without time context. Like he gave no reasons for why LM looked "okay" or anything, then was upset when rayn shot him. Except he didn't even really seem to care very much to question rayn about the shot or whatever. Just feels kind of forced.

Maybe I'm just reading too hard into it now since I started talking about it. I'll sleep on it and see what I'm feeling tomorrow.


Hm...in context YM was super active at the time of his post. I get what you're saying about his response after the flip, though...seems a bit strong for something he didn't seem to have a strong opinion about before the flip.


This gave me -Celestial- flashbacks of that newbie game I lost for us.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:23 GMT
#1485
On March 04 2015 08:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 08:05 IAmRobik wrote:
THIS IS ABSURD ASDAF ASDIOFASDNOIFASNIDOF NI

I LITERALLY DIDN'T GET MY SHOT COUNTED BECAUSE I SAID "STORM" INSTEAD OF "STRIKE"

DASFNIOASDFNIOSADFASDFASDFASDNIOASDFIONFASIODFIOASNDFIONASIO


I am willing to bet VEs balls on this being fake. Lynch robik imo.

Someone who really wants to shoot doesn't just get the name wrong. He sits there waiting with the text prepared making sure he gets his shot off. The shot robik did was faked and so is that post.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:26 GMT
#1486
Robik shot at :59. if it were :58 then I think you could argue that he screwed up the shot on purpose but it was at deadline since deadline really is at :59.

Robik is town, but I'm irritated with him. At least Rayne convinced people that Your Mom was not towny enough to avoid shooting. Robik and what Damdred were the only ones scumming LS. The rest of us were saying LS is town. Gah.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:31 GMT
#1489
On March 04 2015 17:26 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 17:18 sicklucker wrote:
who was it that was so sure robik was faking it?



If he was faking that I'll give him a mafia award peronslly delivered.


Yeah, Robik's rage was/is real. I'm sure he's still pissed.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:37 GMT
#1490
On March 04 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
I honestly can't catch up with how the thread is speeding and interact at the same time I'm not going to try to take the shot I believe because of that. (I'm moderatly caught up)

Geript, RS are really town, kit is as well. Your mom looks ok I think right now, Hts looks better.

I'd shoot oneg or sand I think


This is his most useful post. Then he says that he likes SL which probably means he's mafia. (probably where I got the idea from). Then he starts complaining about the quick pace of the game and how he can't catch up.

Course, I think this is at least the third game I've read where he whines about that both as scum and town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:53 GMT
#1498
On March 04 2015 17:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 17:37 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
I honestly can't catch up with how the thread is speeding and interact at the same time I'm not going to try to take the shot I believe because of that. (I'm moderatly caught up)

Geript, RS are really town, kit is as well. Your mom looks ok I think right now, Hts looks better.

I'd shoot oneg or sand I think


This is his most useful post. Then he says that he likes SL which probably means he's mafia. (probably where I got the idea from). Then he starts complaining about the quick pace of the game and how he can't catch up.

Course, I think this is at least the third game I've read where he whines about that both as scum and town.


Anyone specifically you want me to look at? I've been just sending people about looking into filters like little minions without asking where anyone else is lol


I'm thinking a lot about Sandroba, and Keirathi. Maybe tell me what you think about Obiwan? Obi doesn't look like he's done anything but sadly every read he's made I agree with except he thinks Geript is top town while I think Geript is like 3rd top. So, yeah. Mafia absolutely has to have 1 or 2 in my town pile. It's just impossible to have this many towns.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 08:55 GMT
#1500
On March 04 2015 17:44 sicklucker wrote:
Dandred called me town and didnt do anything. Breske focused on one person I didnt find interesting (dont even know who it is) and did nothing


Uh, Damdred was calling you mafia dude.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 09:13 GMT
#1504
On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:
sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet

if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule

bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?


haha yeah I thought I was being really funny when I said Geript is my third towniest person.

I've reread Keirathi like 3 times. I really really like his thought processes and questions of people. But I'm also realizing I need to reread again because I can't remember his reads. maybe it's because they're not listed, I'm assuming he's scumming Sepulchre and Batsnacks? Who is he interested in?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 09:14 GMT
#1505
On March 04 2015 18:13 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:
sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet

if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule

bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?


haha yeah I thought I was being really funny when I said Geript is my third towniest person.

I've reread Keirathi like 3 times. I really really like his thought processes and questions of people. But I'm also realizing I need to reread again because I can't remember his reads. maybe it's because they're not listed, I'm assuming he's scumming Sepulchre and Batsnacks? Who is he interested in?


EBYOP: funny saying he was wrong to have Geript top town and not third
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 09:19 GMT
#1508
On March 04 2015 18:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:42 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:37 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kita how do you not know how Koshi plays as town against how he plays scum?


Don't recall a mafia koshi game that I participated in off the top of my head aside from game of thrones, which was too long ago to be memorable.


Sure I guess, but how can you not see the differences between Carol and now?

=/


To apply the meta correctly, his behavior this game would need to reflect his mafia behavior. Him playing differently than a previous town game doesn't suggest that he is mafia, which is why I asked.

Since you seem to be familiar, is there a mafia game or two I should be looking at to draw comparisons?

Also, based on your post you seem to suggest that you think koshi is mafia. You mentioned earlier that you were unhappy about his inactivity, but haven't mentioned him since. Is he your preferred shot target?


Okay, that makes sense to me.

Check out Horn of Africa. What was left of Golden Sun and Glory Seeker might also be good checks, though they're both really old.

I'd say that Koshi might be my preferred shot but meh. I can't say I'm hyper interested in today's shot specifically because one of the more passionate players (geript, rayn, robik) are probably going to shoot someone asap and I don't have the same kind of conviction they do atm.

(Though I read robik's post on shooting batsnacks and I might be inclined to agree with that. Batsnacks behaving like a ghost is more indicative of scum than town in my experiences.)


Okay so I liked the beginning of OWS' filter, and even the post that sepu pointed out just because of how it developed and he had a tone townread on HtS early. This post though is probably one of my favorites, purely on tone, cause I completely felt the way he did in the second-to-last paragraph and honesty like that usually makes me think town.

Plus he goes on to push for a bats shot a few times.


Yes! Like I feel him and I are reading this game with the same pair of eyes. Although, he's not really posting much or pushing anything.

Sadly, in my massive experience of 3 games of mafia, typically if someone had wildly different reads then I did that meant they were town...
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 09:22 GMT
#1510
On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game



No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads.

Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie.

I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point.


Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn.

Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town?



Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.


I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like?
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