[M][N]Hammertime Mafia

On January 26 2015 09:12 GlowingBear wrote:


Yes, it makes it easier to lynch you.

On January 26 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright, that's a fair argument, but looking at his subsequent posts...they don't look so bad. Some thought put into them.

Do you still think he might be mafia?

On January 26 2015 09:17 Eden1892 wrote:

thats not what i said i said read not lynch

On January 26 2015 09:19 Toadesstern wrote:

directed at me?
Null. Wasn't the same "I don't give a fuck" you had in yours, as well as being made after I told the thread that I liked your innitial vote. Sure I didn't explain why I liked it despite it being a horrible vote at that time but being the 2nd one to do something like that, especially after I point it out like that, is a lot easier than being the first to do it, so no towniepoints for that.

So nothing really

On January 26 2015 09:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Why are either of you (GB/Lian) talking about policy votes not even 1h into a 72h day?

On January 26 2015 09:23 GlowingBear wrote:


Isn't it odd that he didn't Unvote yet, and how do you think mafia would react to my vote on you?

On January 26 2015 09:31 Toadesstern wrote:


I'm usually read as obviously townie by most people in the game, no matter if I'm town, mafia or 3rd party.

I took like 3 mafia hits and an SK hit when I rolled 3rd party ninja/assassin in one of Palmars (?) games during night1 + night2. (LOL bulletproof)
My most recent Mafia game was the shadow-vet game I replaced into for HF (iirc?) with Sandroba being lynched d1 and ending up one of the most townish guy for everyone except for the guy I got lynched on whatever cycle wer were on. We ended up winning that in a landslide despite Marv asking me to replace into an "already lost game"
My most recent game as Town was the one that had 15 people divided into 5 cells of 3 where especially HF made it his best effort to put my cell first because it was the easiest one with a lot of people, including him and Marv, agreeing that I'm town.

That's the reason I said I liked qtpi's answer to my first question in the thread. If she doesn't know me it makes perfect sense, it just doesn't apply to me but no way for her to know that.

On January 26 2015 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:

before a certain game started a certain host said he needs more skilled people in his game and asked if I could join. I told him to reserve a slot for me while I read the OP + who's in the game and asked about the 2 or 3 people I didn't know about and he said you're good.

On January 26 2015 09:54 Toadesstern wrote:

I'm more of a... I look cutish at people and make them want to cuddle and protect me kind of guy. But yeah... if I get read as town most of times for wrong reasons and I'd call that unreadable if that happens all the time

I was expecting something else after Artanis called him good

On January 26 2015 10:05 Eden1892 wrote:

He lied, I'm sorry.

Man, now there are expectations and I have to pretend to give a damn. Fiiine.

I actually do like HTS's play, although it should be noted that this opinion is unrelated to my policy townread of her to start the game. I'll give examples when off mobile but she seemed like she was genuinely trying.

Toad seems like a chill dude I guess.

liancourt is aggressively null. He's my kill right now, because I'm actually a bureaucrat tasked with the charge of increasing Toad Town's literacy rate at all costs, and I fear he may be illiterate.

Robik, Palmar and VisceraEyes are confirmed mafia until they do something too, so now I've already decided the first 4 days of Lynchmas. Joy!

On January 26 2015 10:27 GlowingBear wrote:


It's instant majority.

Just so you know.

On January 26 2015 10:24 Eden1892 wrote:
GB going against several truths and/or popular opinions can make him town for now

On January 26 2015 10:34 Eden1892 wrote:

Great post. Printing out from mobile to frame on the wall of this restaurant.

liancourt I have no idea what omgus is, please explain

On January 26 2015 10:36 Eden1892 wrote:

Mafia don't go against the grain early unless their team is under the crosshairs early. No one is under crosshairs so mafia GB doesn't go against grain. Ez

On January 26 2015 11:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Lian, if the thread sentiment is going directly to a mislynch, mafia has no motivation to push different reads. That's where Eden is coming from.
By the way, I don't remember playing with toad.

Robik, what have you got so far?

On January 26 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Toad, I've not played with you before, but if I had to read you off that post, I'd say a townread, albeit a weak one. You seem to be having fun with this so far, even if there is no mayor in this game.

Generally scum don't, or rather they are more apprehensive.

On January 26 2015 11:17 Eden1892 wrote:
I thought he:
Scum read toad town's opening when people seemed to like it
Scum read HTS when people townread her
Scum read me when other people were unsure (he said I was tops mafia lol)

That's rather a lot for the opening

On January 26 2015 11:46 GlowingBear wrote:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I ROFL'D WITH THIS

No because you've played imperial mafia very well and you were town.
I actually disagree that you looked that townie in that game but you got shot night1 meh.

On January 26 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Coming-down-Magic was fun but not for why you'd think it would be.

Anyway I am back and I ?hope? of sound mind and judgment.

I feel like my liancourt read was still pretty coherent. Maybe not in execu-- no, definitely not in execution, but at least in the logic. Let me try to explain it with a little more clarity of mind.

My play style was different from both games he's seen from me, and I was mafia in one and town in the other. At the very least he's obscuring the truth by citing Imperial as the inspiration for his read without making any mention of the fact that my play is different from the time he saw me play mafiasided. I feel like a townie would make mention of this and try to give the other player a fair shake instead of simply going "different from this town game therefore mafia!" while ignoring the equally-important "different from this mafia game therefore ???"

I also kinda felt like it was a cheap shot trying this kind of obscurantist read while I wasn't quite at full mental capacity, but to be fair it's not his fault that I decided to try new alcohol right before he gave his reads. Idk maybe it's unfair to hold that to him, but I felt like it was more sinister than a misunderstanding or error.

I'm gonna go reread but off the top of my head, I have the impression that Toad was town for a particular sequence of decisions: (1) intro post kickstarting discussion into (2) repeated attempts to question/probe other players for their positions while (3) demanding more scrutiny onto himself from other players. Mafia can emulate (1) just fine and regularly do (which is why I just called him a chill dude instead of something alignment-indicative), mafia have a harder time with (2) and especially with (3) - (2) because they struggle to get into a townie mindset and ask questions that make sense / are going somewhere (although it's not a huge struggle, it still requires effort, which is a harder threshold to achieve than you'd think), and (3) because they don't know whether or not they're actually being suspicious/not doing enough to be townread, and so daring people not to townread them so hard/so quickly can come off as tone-deaf with regard to how much a townie should suspect someone and backfire badly. (Imagine the sequence: "Why don't you suspect me?" "Why should I?" "...shouldn't you?" It would clearly indicate a guilty conscience on the part of the first speaker, which wouldn't automatically exist with a townie. Naturally it would never be that obvious, but you get the idea behind it.)

None of this is to say that he strictly speaking couldn't do any of what he's done as mafia, but that I think it would be far more likely for him to do it as town. So he's town.

I also feel like GlowingBear was townie but I don't remember why. Maybe I'll know when I reread.

Robik is suspicious to me because I feel like he's not really been very genuine with his posts. I'll reread to see if I'm right about this, but I remember his post about why he voted for HTS, and his post against GB, and both of them seemed illegit. The HTS thing was probably a joke so eh, but he says "get rekt mafia scum" or whatever when arguing for a kill on GB and it's just like... no one says this. Not even Robik says this. C'mon man.

I forgot Onegu even posted so we could kill him too. Palmar as well until he posts

On January 14 2015 07:51 Eden1892 wrote:

I'll do it instead since SL apparently isn't in an explaining mood.

If lalalipop is mafia then the d2 wagons were mafia/mafia. Oatsmaster only went on a late tiebreaker -- Breshke switching off of lalalipop onto a 3rd party. If Breshke and lalalipop are partners, Breshke probably isn't on lalalipop in the first place and he's definitely not switching to a 3rd party and hoping for no vote switches; he's moving onto Oatsmaster to ensure his teammate gets saved or, alternatively, he's not moving to get that bus cred.

So Breshke's vote move makes no sense if lalalipop is mafia, ergo lalalipop is town

On January 27 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:

Correct.

Now look within yourself, is there a correlation between what you have just discovered and the alignment you imply I have received?

On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:

If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me.

From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]

On October 26 2014 15:28 IAmRobik wrote:
There's my flip. Good luck town. These mods are literally the worst things in any game ever. Gb has been shit talking me all game and that fucking piece of shit didn't even get warned most likely. Like fuck that. I literally don't give a fuck. I'm not getting mod killed this game for playing the game.

On January 27 2015 02:37 IAmRobik wrote:

WTF are you doing? You literally just said you think Palmar is town and now you're grilling him. Palmar will play the game when he wants to play the game and if he doesn't want to play the game then he'll sub or we'll lynch him

On January 22 2015 05:52 Koshi wrote:

I now lynch people I know will be though to read later over people that will be readable. Because I don't lynch enough scum D1.

On January 27 2015 04:01 Half the Sky wrote:


Lian is in Korea AFAIK. I'd say give another 4h. If he doesn't do jack all, then I think a pressure vote is appropriate then.

On January 27 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
Announcement: I am considering releasing the first read I have this game tonight. Stay tuned!

On January 27 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:


Yes.

Liancourt's town play in Carol (he was the veteran in that game) was a PERFECT example of this. He was criticised for not being convincing, he pissed away 4 cycles yelling at people his reads, particularly to lynch Holyflare but people ignored him. He was right but failed to be convincing.

On January 27 2015 04:21 Half the Sky wrote:
In the Void game which we both recently played (disclaimer: that game is still in progress, but both of us have been eliminated from it...so my discussion on that is somewhat limited intentionally) Lian said the same thing about playing a certain meta and was lynched D1 for doing jack all, effectively policy lynched so I believe that's why he "switched metas" again this go.

But what has been consistent across all metas I've seen is the lockdown on a singular target. And his confidence about it.

On January 27 2015 04:22 Toadesstern wrote:


though if he's tunneling he has confirmation bias by definition. If that's what he's doing it's likely he might ignore the parts you're blaming him for simply because he's certain you're mafia and looking at it only one way: Try to point out things that don't fit with your townmeta because you're mafia anyways

Both what you said and what I said come down to the same thing I feel. It could very well be malicious just the way I think locking on to just one target could be something malicious because that way he doesn't have to make up stuff about a lot of people and can just focus on one guy. But if he does tunnel a lot that's a moot point.

On December 20 2014 10:05 liancourt wrote:
U know why ppl arent lynching hf? Because they are reading his posts and not ignoring the content.

All of hfs posts whether scum or town are all superb. They are alwsys pro town in both alignments.

The thing u have to realize is hf busses nearly everytime. And when he s town he generally gets scum most of the time.

The only scum tell he prolly has is how he reacts to certain posts. If his reaction is genuine fake calm angry etc. Town hf is more angry more frustrated. Scum hf is calm then tries to be angry on purpose and fakes reactions. Ppls pov will differ on whether hfs reactions are fake or not but imo hf has been faking a lot this game. Just like the vote deadline faking anger. He can be angry in both alignments yes but it looked so fake to me. U guys cant put a case on hf for content cos he busses teammates. His content will alwsys be good. U have to read him as how me and slam read him. Slam knows hf so well. I still believe slam is town but dont know why u didnt vote hf when u did last time....slam??? Why????

At gb i m from asia

On December 20 2014 10:13 liancourt wrote:
Gb what is wrong with u???? Are u reading his posts? Stop reading hfs posts. And think for yourself.

Why its korean standard time. Because i m in korea.

On January 27 2015 14:17 Onegu wrote:



Here you go lian my scum read on you. First was just a pressure vote, but now here is my reason

On January 27 2015 13:22 Onegu wrote:



Ok yeah I'm happy to kill this guy with fire now... Why the hell are you talking about that?!

On January 27 2015 14:23 Onegu wrote:



He just came in. Had your obnoxious post that you quoted 20 times. Had posts from hts and a vote from me. And he comes in and is like yup you scum and I'm never going to listen to you. When have you ever seen town do that.

On January 27 2015 14:26 Onegu wrote:




Lol,when did I sheep him. and once you get called out for your confirmation bias post you are now willing to listen to Eden lol...

On January 27 2015 14:30 Onegu wrote:



Sure because you come in here check random things post something that has no revalance and basicly omgus Eden with no back up, but then want a policy lynch. You then follow up this post with another post that is completely irrelevant, and no bearing on this game. Then I call you out on it and you switch your tune.

On January 27 2015 14:34 Eden1892 wrote:

my d1 was trash
my n1 was ok

why don't you actually read my posts and stop tunneling like a donkey? you are playing so antitown right now by continuing to antagonize me for no reason

On January 27 2015 14:45 Eden1892 wrote:

i gave the summary. you'd get more concrete reasons if you didn't piss me off to the point where i can't think clearly by intentionally ignoring me

and don't even pretend you weren't antagonizing me, you outright said you were ignoring my attempts to work with you

On January 27 2015 14:54 Eden1892 wrote:
this is what's so infuriating. you have an alleged scum read on me due to "meta," but it's obvious from your posts that you aren't even looking at the game YOU HOSTED where i was town. you never considered it when you gave your "meta" read on me, your reaction to my attempts to question you was exactly the wrong response that anyone should take away from my play in that town game.

just what are you doing??

On January 27 2015 15:54 Toadesstern wrote:

I'm one of the guys that figures out who's town and lynches into whoever is left, starting with the guy my stomach likes the least as I'm usually incredibly confident in my townreads. You're probably not going to see me make long cases about people being mafia. That mostly goes out to you and lian who said he expected me to be someone like Marv/HF... I even told you that I'm the kind of guy that just looks cute and everyone wants to cuddle :3

That being said, a walkthrough of my thoughts lately would be: We lynch into Eden / Lian / Onegu, preferably Lian or Onegu at the point of when I made my general list. Robik if we havn't won by then.

Right now I'm fairly confident that I don't want to touch Eden at all, he has been quite impressive the last 24~30 hours or so and like I already said I agree with that one point on GB you did, so he dropped in my list. So for right now it's between Onegu and Lian, leaning towards Onegu. GB for me is an option I'd be willing to discuss but that to me has the same value as a policy lynch because a potential mislynch on GB would be a disaster. Meaning if that guy ends up town we had the easiest votedump for mafia ever for d1. Onegu has that under-the-radar but not just completly afk feel to him I don't like. Lian I have to reread some because people apparently think he got super towny in the last couple hours?

I'd also like to add Palmar to the list because he still hasn't done shit at all but let's be honest here, he knows me good enough to know that I'd only be pressuring and asking people to give him one more day if push comes to shove. I've seen him behave exactly like this as town multiple times (I think? at least once), which doesn't make him town but I'd try to avoid that lynch d1.

On January 27 2015 23:41 Palmar wrote:

This post is complete horseshit









In fact I am much more sure on Toad being mafia than GB. But lynching both might be fine.

The point here is Toad is waffling so hard on GB that it's almost painful

On January 28 2015 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think Eden and HTS are both super town. I'm LEANING town on liancourt because of how he "responded" to Eden freaking out. I still suspect Palmar of being mafia and I'm still suspecting GB.

Palmar coming in and actually trying to lynch someone moves him out of my lynch preferences for today, so GB is my default as of right now. Unless someone can convince me that Toad is the best lynch, I'm going to look for a better lynch than GB, in case there is one.

On January 28 2015 03:26 Half the Sky wrote:


How long is this going to take me to answer?

1 You took Onegu out of context in a misleading way (pages 14 and 19 of thread)
2 You took me out of context in a misleading way, the read on Toad (pages 14)
3 You took me out of context AGAIN saying I was pushing you based on meta when the opposite was true (page 19)
4 You did not interact with me whilst we were in thread together over an action you thought was scumlike from me, instead you waited to make it as a point just so you could make a point in your notes. Furthermore I INTERACTED WITH YOU. (page 14)
5 VE scumreads you for not solving the game and you don't even give him a good response for how you are (page 17)
6 When I call you out for ignoring my posts you say you are coming up to a random page. I MEAN COME ON. I know you are not new to these games (page 36)
7 Then you go and decide you'll claim scum (page 39).

Your lack of activity isn't helping but there is more than enough to scumread you.

On January 28 2015 04:02 GlowingBear wrote:


YOU CAN'T SAY I'M FAKING CONTRIBUTION IF I'M ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO REASON THINGS WTF

VOTING FOR MYSELF IS A RISK MAFIA WOULDN'T TAKE IN AN INSTANT MAJORITY LYNCH WTF AND IT SHOWS YOU THAT I'M NOT BEING DEFENSIVE

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?????

On January 28 2015 04:06 Eden1892 wrote:
I have to admit that it's weird that GB would self-vote and retract if he's mafia. You don't self-vote as mafia unless you're planning to have your partner hammer it away to cut off discussion.

On January 28 2015 07:53 Eden1892 wrote:
OK, so back to it. I think GlowingBear is town, because:
(a) His lynch has been way too easy. We could have had him already several times if we'd wanted it, and I think if this weren't IML he would have been lynched by now.
(b) I'm inclined to believe him when he says he had a plan with his self-voting. I don't know what the plan is, and he's gonna have to explain it or get lynched, but pending a reasonable-sounding explanation, I'll believe that he's town.

From there I'm gonna go look at the other players. I'm town and I feel pretty strongly that Half the Sky is as well.

The first player I'm looking at is Onegu, because like I said before, if GlowingBear is town, then Onegu is town as well. I explained this early on p46, feel free to look back and see. Onegu is town.

I have a bad feeling about both Robik and Palmar. Robik has been very loud and animated about lynching GlowingBear, who I believe now to be town, and has done very little - nothing noteworthy enough for me to remember, anyway - outside of talking about killing GlowingBear. And from what I recall his original reasoning wasn't very good. Furthermore, I really didn't like the "playing to wincon" part of his accusation against GB. As I noted before, the only way Robik can accuse GB of not playing to win con as confidently as he did is if he knows GB is town, because mafia self-hammering can absolutely be part of the mafia win con (whereas town self-hammering never is part of town win con). Perhaps I'm getting greedy; I don't really believe in "scumslips." But I kinda think this was one.

Palmar, on the other hand, I feel more confident is mafia. I noted on p47 that Palmar seemed like a slightly more exaggerated version of himself in this game; he seemed to be more aggressively trolly/apathetic to start the day and then more aggressively active/ostensibly-helpful once that stopped. In my (limited) experience with Palmar as town, he tends to ease his way into a game; there's very little pushing to the degree he's done here, and his warmup process is slower and smoother. He doesn't go from 0 to 90 fucks given like he has here; it's more of a steady press on the give-a-fuck accelerator. It feels like he dropped a brick on the accelerator this game, like he was trying to make sure no one could question that he was being active and involved now.

Then there's his vote for GlowingBear... HTS already noted it. It's a policy vote, not a vote for mafia. The problem is that it's a policy vote based on GB martyring that's stayed on GB after GB retracted his self-vote. Policy votes are meant to be done to discourage the behavior triggering the policy vote. For them to be effective, then, there must be an incentive to revoke the behavior - a revoked vote in exchange. Palmar hasn't met GB halfway. If he really cares about the policy being effective, why is he not retracting his vote? On the other hand, if Palmar was just looking for a nice-sounding reason to put a vote down on GB (L-1 no less) and walk away, it makes perfect sense.

Toad and VE are still in my null pile; I don't see myself pursuing either of them as lynches today. liancourt, I still think is probably town because I can put myself in what I project to be his shoes and make sense of it from a townie POV.

##UNVOTE: Onegu
##VOTE: Palmar

On January 28 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Eden, I've got home.

Ok, listen.
An idea crossed my mind: if I vote myself, I would be two votes away from being hammered.
Obvious scum would get me lynched quickly if both mafia voted me. If that happened, well, town would figure it out very quickly and game over for them.

If both mafia were already voting for me, all they needed to do was to try to convince the thread to vote me.

But what I think would be the most smart play for mafia would be to be airtime wishy washy but then quickly voting me and finally waiting for a townie to vote for me. The guy who would hammer a town would be VERY suspicious. This way, mafia avoids responsibility and gets a townie mislynched.

You see, if you see someone voting for himself, SPECIALLY in an instant majority game like this, you HAVE to take a step back and consider what's going on. You can't jumping to the lynch too quickly because you risk getting a townie mislynched. You have to think about what's going on.

You understand what I'm trying to say here? I voted myself expecting a mafia behaviour, and I saw that behaviour on Palmar.

On January 28 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, everything you say enters in contradiction.
You said you could have hammered me.
Then I show you knew you wouldn't
Then you say that you didn't want the day to end
Then I say that it doesn't make sense because if you didn't want he day to end you shouldn't be voting me at the first place
Then you say that if I flipped town it would tell a lot about the person who hammered me, when I clearly stated the opposite: that scum would avoid hammering to deflect attention, and again, this goes against th idea of the day not ending.

On January 28 2015 11:56 IAmRobik wrote:

your premise for GB being town is completely misguided. Do you not understand why?

On January 28 2015 12:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Eden and Palmar:
I just read pg 50 and am utterly baffled at how you two are analyzing what GB said. He had absolutely no reason to fear being lynched in that spot as mafia and his explanation is total horseshit. "think about the vote" means nothing. LITERALLY NOTHING. You gave him 11 hours to fabricate a reason for the self-vote when it was obvious he was fucking conceding as mafia. Then he comes back with an explataion that is such utter horseshit that I'm amazed that you actually consider it. Am I wrong about you? Are you Adam Sandler from the Waterboy? "I self voted because I knew that mafia wouldn't hammer me" NO SHIT. HE VOTED TO MAKE IT 3 VOTES ON HIM. TOWN IS A BUNCH OF PUSSIES AND ABSOLUTELY NEVER EVER EVER hammer in that spot. It just doesn't hammer. And if someone votes him (like palmar did), he can just unvote mere minutes later. I'm literally blown away by the stupidity in this thread from people whose play I actually respect.

I don't know if I can even keep reading what happens from pg 51-53 because my hands are shaking that's how mad I am

On January 28 2015 12:36 Onegu wrote:



How can you keep making posts that say absolutely nothing with almost all of your posts?

Plus would you have hammered GB?

On January 28 2015 13:10 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh please make it stop

this is like watching sandpaper scratch a chalkboard drying

On January 29 2015 01:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just thought the way he arrived at it was scummy. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but he goes from having no scumreads to being hard tunneled on lian based on one post (the one he calls the scummiest post in the thread) and then goes on to exclusively justify that read. The way he's going on lian just seems contrived considering he doesn't really have thoughts on anyone else. Skimming it looks like the only other read he has that isn't stale (from like his first couple of posts) is that Toad is townish BASED on something lian said.

On January 29 2015 01:30 Toadesstern wrote:
so here's the thing. I got back from Uni and am out playing D&D with friends in 10 minutes. Won't be back until 24:00 my time. That being said, if I die before that happens:

He still hasn't really explained his read at all other than "toad waffles on GB" which I do every game no matter of alignment and he knows that. We've played mafia together for... 3 years?
Eden's questions about me are too long for me to go through when I have to leave right now but it makes somewhat sense from his PoV if he doesn't know me, even if you could answer every single question in there if you had looked at my previous games (like the fact that I HAAATE talking about townreads and explaining them with a passion to answer one of the questions) and at least he's explaining it. So don't take that as a bad thing.
HTS I still feel comfortable in being town
VE I'm not as sure about anymore. It could be he's mafia defending me to get towncred after I flip but that could just be me paranoid. If I try to forget that I'd still say more on the townish side
Robik is prolly somewhat townish
GB is back to null for me. I still feel like mafia would have hammered that if he was town but could be that noone was around.
Onegu I felt better about lately. Wouldn't be my #1 priority anymore. Probably behind a lian lynch and Palmar (spite-) lynch (Palmar could totally be Mafia though, like I said he knows me for 3 years. He's way better than what he's showing here)
liancourt seems to be the guy to go for imo

with that being said I put my vote on lian for now and most likely for today even if I come back and day isn't over yet

##vote liancourt

And wow, this is actually the first time I ever get lynched as town (in 3 years?) without ragequitting or being modkilled for making a mistake. Good job Palmar

On January 29 2015 01:40 Cephiro wrote:
Untouchable Votecount

liancourt (4): Toadesstern, Onegu, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Eden1892, Half the Sky, Toadesstern
Toadesstern (3): GlowingBear, liancourt, Palmar, Palmar, GlowingBear, Eden1892, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (1): Half the Sky, IAmRobik, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Palmar, Toadesstern, VisceraEyes
Onegu (1): Eden1892, liancourt
IAmRobik (0): GlowingBear, Palmar, GlowingBear
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Eden1892, GlowingBear
Eden1892 (0): liancourt

Not voted (0):

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.

On January 29 2015 01:50 VisceraEyes wrote:

##Unvote

Sleep soundly young prince.

On January 30 2015 13:56 Onegu wrote:
Wtf are you talking about liancourt?

On January 29 2015 02:10 Palmar wrote:
Most scummy thing GB has done this game was to drop the case on me. It was a solid case and I was convinced. Then he just allowed himself to be argued out of it

On January 30 2015 14:11 Half the Sky wrote:


Not sure who this is directed at.

My lynch targets are you and GB at this point, though trying to analyse a few of the others atm. For example, Palmar now is looking quite worse for once than he was. The problem is that GB isn't contributing a lot either in promoting a town agenda, and I know he's done much better than this in Carol.

I've voted you because all but one of your posts are not really driving discussion, a lot of evasiveness when Eden was in thread with you, a lot of your points were repeating things others said, and most of your posts were posting just for the sake of posting.

On January 30 2015 14:14 Half the Sky wrote:


Just answered.

Can you tell me why you think Onegu is scum? Just filter dived you and couldn't sort it out. You argued why Onegu couldn't be confirmed town, but that is different than saying why he's scum.

On January 30 2015 14:18 Onegu wrote:










Are you not reading?

On January 30 2015 14:22 Onegu wrote:
So scum is me and GB but you wouldn't have hammed GB?

On January 30 2015 14:24 Onegu wrote:
I'm town reading GB you obv aren't even reading the thread scum.

On January 30 2015 14:34 Half the Sky wrote:


People are questioning (aside from you) Palmar and VE. Why do you think VE is town (in your own words) and how is Palmar still null after what he did at EoD last night?

On February 01 2015 14:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Called it. Knew I was spared because I was on the wrong track.

Was right on the instinct with Onegu but didn't think others would vote him, so I went with GB. Damn me.