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Lmao did you just quote Damdred, say the exact same thing and call it Simple Fact #2? Not alignment indicative at all, just funny as hell.
I'm looking at the unvote and the context for the timing at EoD for when it happened. I'm not particularly sure where the scum motive would be in putting yourself up for Lynch unless you knew ahead of time someone would come to your rescue. It is a hugely risky move but one I wouldn't put past Damdred if both of you were scum. That being said, I don't know enough about GB to be certain that scum GB would be bold enough to pull that off.
Eh. I probably won't post again until I get home from work. I need some time to really analyze the votes and a couple of other posts in the thread and I cant at work. Not convinced GB is town but I'm finally starting to let the idea marinate, I guess.
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Eh I lied, I'm still here. GB, what didn't you like about my read on Damdred? It isn't quite how I feel about him now but at the time of the post I slightly townread him. Unless I'm mistaken, you dropped your case on Damdred and towned him. Why disagree with my town read but then town him?
I was and still kind of am weary of stamping Trfel as town because of his interactions early with RSo, as well as Damdred scumming him. I believe you have, as well. I haven't gotten to look at Trfel as much as I'd like to yet but some of their thoughts regarding him echoed mine. I'll sheep Geript here in that his filter has posts that could come from town and posts that could come from scum.
And hm. I believe someone told Trfel earlier "Your opening is supposed to be controversial to start discussion, not have you scumread." It seems you were successful in both yourself. I do know that scum like to misdirect conversation into dead-ends, not promote more so I can understand the logic behind it. Honestly, your EoD/Night posts seem more thought out and scumhunting than scattershot, the way I felt the one liners were.
Damdred not being willing to save himself and lynch you is a good point. Normally, it would be enough to fully Town him but the claiming to be burnt out, lazy, meh, etc., makes me think(its a stretch, I know) that he might not want to be scum in back to back games. He does really seem burnt out. This isn't even close enough for me to want to lynch him, though, especially since the more him being lazy and burnt out gets mentioned, the more I noticed he gets into scumhunting. It is a problem that he has to be inspired to scumhunt, but it looks genuine enough.
And I'm still kinda not over either of you misrepresenting or missing my posts/thoughts but I could see how it happened. I'm not used to games this big(last Newbie was my biggest), I can see how posts can get lost or skimmed over. Without any proof of it being intentional(you answered me now), I'll just let it go.
Yeah, I get the small filter thing every time. It happened last game, too, I think I explained why before but I will again. I have D1. As time passes and posts and votes go up, it becomes a lot easier for me to analyze who is doing what, as well as whose play has changed after the first lynch and NK. Then my posts start to pick up in content and quantity. D1 I'm notorious for lynching Town so I try to ease back, follow my gut and hit it hard once I have info to go off of. It seems I almost did so with you, as well, if I'm to believe you are town.
Your last page or so in your filter, plus the size of it, really has me thinking I almost made that mistake again.
Tldr: Senpai finally noticed me.
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Damdred - Yes. I'm leaning you and GB as slight town after getting my responses from you two. I'm not sure how much weight I'll put into the D1 tracker claim from JJB but its definitely something I want to vet. Hard. If it is a true claim, it was mentioned scum might leave him be and RB him. I want to see how and why WWs wagon picked up after the claim from Jar Jar and if any voters look like scum trying to jump on a wagon to save scum JJ with his possible fake claim. I leave work in an hour so a few hours after that, I can dig into votes more in depth.
The last minute vote and timing of LM and subsequent disappearance makes it possible this was a mafia lynchtrain as well. Again, need to look more into LM once I get home. One of these 2 is scum, just not sure which. And I agree that JJ living through tonight doesnt automatically mean he is scum.
Also, LS, that seemed like a horrible play if you're really Town. Whether Damdred was bread crumbing, hinting at it or it really was just a typo, the fact of the matter is it wasn't obvious until you yelled "HEY DID YOU JUST CLAIM DOCTOR?!" so now the entire thread, including scum, saw it. I really don't like the feeling I just got from you doing that.
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Damdred - Rushing to post this before I leave work. At first glance, I want to jump all over Geript for how hard he tunneled and pushed WW. It feels too easy to scum him for this without rereading everything on him until now. For me, this WW mislynch is deja vu. Tubesuck tunneled on WW, pushed him hard, everyone jumped on it, we lynched our Vet D1. This time he was VT. I gave Tube BoD for it and he actually was VT. This makes me think Geript will end up flipping VT but like I said, it's more based off last game than his posts and actions. Intend to get to that when I get home.
DP - Yeah, I entertained the idea of Damdred and GB scumming together. It feels too unlikely. There would have to be a lot to go perfectly right for them at EoD for both of them to be on wagons and run the risk of one of them dying. Not impossible, just too statistically unlikely D1.
I'll expand on this post at home.
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On January 19 2015 12:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Both GB and Damdred look towny and productive after the lynch as does shining out of nowhere.
The problem is that I find it impossible to believe that on day one we had a town/town/town/town wagon.
Gonna have a read of rsultin overnight.
Will give you some sort of last will and testament for after I get shot tonight.
Before night ends, could you tell me what you think about my initial post on LM and JJB's claim? Its bare, as I plan on elaborating when I'm finally told and comfortable, but you said you find it impossible that all wagons were town. So which do you feel weren't, if any?
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This post is going to be a little rushed but I'll be able to expand on it once I'm done packing. It's one of my only days off today and I move at the end of the month.
LS Cop claim seems pretty honest. I don't see scum coming out with a blue claim at the very beginning of D2 with a red check. ##Vote:Trfel
Damdred's case on LM - it's not 100% convincing but more than enough to make me look into LM, which is something I've been meaning to do. I do see the seeming disinterest in the game which is not something I expect from Town, who should be actively trying to figure out this game. I also didn't like the switch from JJB to WW. I'm not going to quote what was already quoted but LM's posts are bare, don't really contribute to conversation and don't seem consistent. I know reads evolve as the game progresses but without any explanation, I'm not sure how you get away with a one-liner to lynch WW with misinformation, since WW voted GB before Trfel did. It looks bad that that is his last post in his filter. AFK a vote on Town at EoD and not be heard from since seems scummy.
I originally had Geript as a strong, even unlynchable townread. I'm going to rescind that for the last minute pull back from GB to WW. I need a little more time to see if Geript's post about RSo holds any weight but like I mentioned I'm a little swamped today. He isn't backing down from RSo(whose questioning I'm convinced can come from either scum or town since I know her) and although it isn't alignment indicative, it gives us more to analyze. I would think scum would eventually backtrack in fear of getting caught saying something that could be used against them.
Also, no one has really looked at the interactions between Geript and RSo besides DP from what I've read, which makes me think there is a small chance they are both actually Town. Scum sit back, let them pressure eachother, and once it's gone deep enough, pressure one or the other into a mislynch.
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Ok I really need to see LM in here. Still no post since the vote but no one is questioning it. I'd like to see his defense, if any. EoD actions, lack of contribution, disinterest in the game and scumhunting. I know I risk basically parroting thread sentiment here but even if he isn't reading the thread, he should be able to read and respond to these things and he hasn't even done that.
RSo, this is my 2nd TL game with you. I'm realizing it is a little different and lot more difficult than it is where we met. So I do believe I could correctly scumread you if I had to. Right now, I have to ask myself if I could see you bussing Trfel on D1 with all that early pressure, as well as maintaining a sizeable filter afterward that looks like active scumhunting and questioning. You keep trying to figure out the game while looking at things from both sides, particularly this post.(quote in spoiler)
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 06:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Don't lynch:
Geript, GB, dam dried, in counterclaimed blues.
Everyone else is on the table.
Also fuck phone posting and auto correct. -snorts- seriously? you can't narrow it down more than the obvious ones? after going through everyone's filters? this is pretty disappointing. Okay, well... Trfel, LM for the reasons I described earlier...then look into DP/Breshke unless it turns out JJB false-claimed, in which case: Trfel, JJB...then look into Geript/LM/Breshke At least, that's what I would do. Everyone else I'm more or less townreading, and geript should be townread unless one of those wagons were scum. Then he's on the table again.
This came before the EoN post. If she were scum, this would be the hardest bus since D1 ever. She can't know LS was going to come up with a red check on him.
Geript, read into you as well. I went from unlynchable to a tad suspicious for the wagon on WW but, like it was mentioned before, I'm not sure I see a scum motive for moving a town wagon onto another town. I think you might be putting more weight into your faith into DP due to past experience and his play than you should be but I feel that may actually be a Townie trait. I somewhat feel the same about Damdred right now. I know his playstyle and this is one of the stronger townreads I've gotten on him.
Also, RSo's last post said it'd look into JJB's reasoning for your wagon switch being scum driven. I looked at your EoD posts and it doesn't feel that way to me. Geript didn't pull the wagon from GB to WW half-heartedly or waiting for JJB's to take over. He posted 9 times trying very hard to get WW lynched after casing him, he didn't just afk it. Like I mentioned before, this reminds me exactly of how WW was tunneled last game. Tube did it and ended up flipping VT. I'm not sure where in this scenario Geript would've managed to get JJB lynched when he was actively trying to put all votes on WW.
Tldr: Looked into both of you like I wanted to and I think I'm right in thinking scum would be content pushing a mislynch on either of you.
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Ugh I'm really sorry guys, my life has been nuts lately. Court date, moving at the end of the month, working overtime, it sucks. =/ I had a lot to catch up on and I'm more than willing to answer questions after this post.
LM - you asked if I looked into your filter and I did. I kept looking it over a few times, was about the size of mine and bare. I'm glad you're around now, even though I probably don't have a right to judge. You said Breshke isn't open to other options when it comes to you but I'm not sure what that is. You gave a torn read on Trfel that wanted to lean towards town, which was also a part of a post that was just a bunch of town reads. You also voted WW for voting with Trfel, when WW scummed GB early and voted before Trfel. You mention avoidance of reads but you only cased Breshke.
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?
Me right now:
Town:
Me
JJB - unCC Tracker
RSo
Geript
DP
Up in the air on: Damdred, Breshke
Scum: LM
This is all on LM's flip but if Damdred were scum, I don't see what he has to lose either way. He either busses his scum buddy early for town cred or on the super slim chance LM flips town, which I think still has a 1% possibility because no one is defending him, he gets us into an easy mislynch. Maybe it's just knowing his past scum games but I wouldn't put it past him, which is why I'm rethinking my read. It's not enough to scum him but enough to shake a strong town read in him.
Breshke echoes a few points that I agree with against LM, including his lack of trying to solve the game. However, I think I might be suffering the same paranoia here. Breshke's filter isn't anything too special other than the case on LM, and he did pick it up when Trfel was caught but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative. Scum losing a member might motivate the other members to pick it up, too.
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On January 24 2015 03:00 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?
Damdred or you. I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him.
Well, at least I got the who. Low hanging fruit in me, basically inactive town. ##Vote:LoneMeow I might be willing to pull off of you if you can explain what makes us more suspicious than anyone else but I've been weary of you for a while and your appearances now make it worse. Still feels like you are just looking for an easy place to drop your vote. You have no real case aside from Breshke once he scummed you(OMGUS?) and the 3 people you've scummed or been suspicious of are Bresh, Damdred, myself, all of whom have earlier posts directly questioning you and commenting on your filter. The inconsistencies pointed out in some of your posts seem hastily thrown together, not a genuine effort to look into anyone.
Had planned on posting more including responding to Bresh asking me to explain my DP town read(which is weakest of the 3, hence why its bottom) but Friday nights at work are hectic, been working on this post on my tablet for about an hour. Going to look through DP's filter for the specific posts that made me lean town on him.
But I'm here, should be in and out for the next 2-3 hours if anyone wants to bounce anything off of me.
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On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining.
Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all.
It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me.
And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy.
3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother?
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Damdred - lol? That's why I'm posting, to talk about what's going on. My last post on Geript is something going on now. Nice to see a vote on me as soon as I post, though, DP.
DP - Simple answer? Because I'm town and only scum would want to lynch town. More than that? I'm limited in my playing and posting time and I've come in here trying my hardest to respond to what I can as well as defend myself as well as give what reads I can pick up on. Anything more you want than that, go look at my filter and decide why you shouldn't lynch me. I'm not going to read myself for you. Like I mentioned with LM, I'm the low hanging fruit for a mislynch and I refuse to be that for scum on D3.
Also, I believe the post I posted before that one you quoted explained why I believe LM is scum. As well as 1 or 2 more in my filter before it. I trust my gut feelings and when I can support them with the thread, I follow my gut. In the last Newbie, I was VT and at one point had 2/3 scum pegged in Celestial and Scott. If I have to trust someone right now, it is myself. And you're basically asking me to repeat what I've said about LM yet again. Go through my filter, it shouldn't be too hard to see why I think LM is scum. It has been there for a while. For someone who made a big fuss about Damdred reading your filter, you don't seem to have really read mine.
Hm. If LM isn't scum? Damdred and either Bresh or Geript. Damdred I made points on earlier when I voted LM. I even specifically said Damdred pushing LM was possibly scummy vs townie, since he probably felt he was just echoing thread sentiment in the LM push. I also said it might be paranoia and that Breshke could be equally culpable, since his play picked up the moment Trfel died. One scum down, maybe his teammate pressured him into putting some effort in.
Again, all paranoia because I'm pretty sure LM will flip scum but since you asked, it was pretty much already there in my filter, too. =l
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On January 24 2015 11:25 Damdred wrote:
Shining how was I echoing thread sentiment when I brought up original points at the time against him?
You had some original points against him at the time of you casing him, yes, but I guess I expressed that thought wrong. What I meant was you planted the LM case and let it sit N2 and then came out the gate pushing it after Bresh appeared with his LM case. Also, I had already questioned LMs activity at this point, too. The support for the LM lynch picked up overnight you could've seen that as an opportunity to push the mislynch.
Again, this is all on LM flipping Town, which I don't see happening. Tin foil hats. I'm actually more suspicious of Geript pushing a counterlynch on you instead. Repeating myself here but unless he really is convinced LM isn't scum, I don't see the sense in replacing him with you as the lynch. Unless this is trying to save a scum mate late in the game?
Too much tinfoil cuz LM hasn't flipped yet but still worth mentioning for once he does flip scum.
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RSo - I honestly don't think he'll flip Town. To be honest, it might be a bit conceited but one of my tinfoil theories marked Celestial in our last game, even though we lost. I kind of just don't want to lose again and therefore I'm pretty much spewing anything that comes into my head after thinking it through and seeing if there is any basis on it. Also, I wasn't killed that game the same way I'm still alive I'm this one for what I assume is the same reasons. My activity and filter constantly keep me in danger of a mislynch, apparently.
Also, I'm not really scumreading him. I mentioned that this was personally the first red flag he raised for me, and it's based purely off of LM's flip. It is enough to rescind my "he's town, let me look elsewhere" POV on him and watch him at EoD. I like going at the lurkers to pressure them because in the case of lurking, you might get them back into the thread to analyze but It does kind of seem odd to abandon a lurker in LM and go at Damdred after wanting to lynch lurkers.
DP - No. Damdred doesn't have a higher chance of being Town than Geript, due to what I've mentioned about tinfoil theory, as well as the fact that he's pretty disinterested here. He has a lot of posts but I've learned filter size isn't alignment indicative more than anything else. I also haven't ruled out him bussing LM for the inactivity to earn town credit, whereas the only thing I have on Geript is he might be saving scum. Not enough for me to lynch on.
Leaving work now, back in a few hours.
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On January 24 2015 12:34 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining. Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all. It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me. And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy. 3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother? No you're literally quite forgettable this game. That's a warning sign but I'm not sure what even makes you think I'm pushing you based on that. Yep. I'm totally busing LM by pushing Damdred. You caught me there.
I think you misunderstood. I meant are you and Damdred bussing eachother and hiding it under the support LM's push has gained. Also, 3rd option was said to imply that its only possible if the first 2 points are wrong. I like looking at everything from all sides. It gives me a solid train of thinking to follow once I receive new info. I'm sorry that I'm putting it out there in the thread for others to weigh in on.
And I just said it feels like a soft push without the push. Let someone else read it, look into me and why I'm so forgettable and push your mislynch for you if you're scum. Nothing other than the fact you've brought me being forgettable up before hints to this but if it crossed my mind, I'm putting it out there.
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On January 24 2015 13:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 13:40 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 12:34 geript wrote:On January 24 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:On January 24 2015 09:46 geript wrote:
I keep on forgetting about Shining. Also, this. This has to be the 2nd or 3rd time you've alluded to forgetting about me. I find that almost as offensive as GB ignoring me. Lol. But I had to ask about this...why keep mentioning me and how forgettable I am? If you're going to do it more than once, it feels like you're not forgetting me, since you're mentioning me after all. It almost feels like you're soft pushing me without soft pushing me and waiting for someone else to take up the gauntlet and run with it, so you don't get blamed for another mislynch(first being WW). Its the first red flag in my mind that I'm seeing coming from you but you being scum would feel like HTS in the newbie game all over to me. And you provided a counter wagon against LMs wagon in Damdred. Since I am assuming I'm right in my scumread on LM, I have to wonder why you're trying to save scum. Also how much sense does it make if you 2 were teammates? Going to have to review the Damdred case since I don't trust him either but I don't know if this is him being scum or just lazy. 3rd option that I have to also wonder because I like throwing everything out there. The LM lynch has a good amount of support. Are you 2 bussing eachother? No you're literally quite forgettable this game. That's a warning sign but I'm not sure what even makes you think I'm pushing you based on that. Yep. I'm totally busing LM by pushing Damdred. You caught me there. I think you misunderstood. I meant are you and Damdred bussing eachother and hiding it under the support LM's push has gained. Also, 3rd option was said to imply that its only possible if the first 2 points are wrong. I like looking at everything from all sides. It gives me a solid train of thinking to follow once I receive new info. I'm sorry that I'm putting it out there in the thread for others to weigh in on. And I just said it feels like a soft push without the push. Let someone else read it, look into me and why I'm so forgettable and push your mislynch for you if you're scum. Nothing other than the fact you've brought me being forgettable up before hints to this but if it crossed my mind, I'm putting it out there. Excuse me. Yes, Damdred and I are bussing each other at Lylo +1. You found us out. You sneaky townsperson you.
When there is no real threat to either of you if you're scum with LM already at 5 votes? It doesn't seem impossible to me but whatever. Condescending attitude and a sarcastic response. Would you rather I keep my thoughts to myself? Because that doesn't help town at all. And you get rather touchy when anybody so much as mentions your name in a post.
DP - Because we don't have unlimited mislynches to play with, far from it. I've done my best trying to read them both and your question was which one seems scummier than the other, not which one I think is scum. I've made clear my only solid scumread is LM, then I toss up between Breshke and Damdred. Geript wasn't even on that list. Geript's response to me brainstorming and not pushing him, just implying what I'll learn from an LM flip seems overly sarcastic and dismissive. That's why he's on that list now, too.
I'm still on the fence about Damdred so yes, from where I'm sitting and what I'm seeing, I'm concerned over Townier but not confirmed Town Geript pushing Scummier but not confirmed Scum Damdred over Scummiest LoneMeow.
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A direct one, not deflective sarcasm. And I agree it's highly unlikely but not insane. My first ever TL mafia game, my strongest townread was scum. I'm in a nothing is impossible state of mind. I mentioned that the only red flag I've seen on an otherwise Town read on you was pushing to save who I think is scum in LM. I still think you can be town but I want to make sure I'm not making that decision blindly.
I have nothing else to think of you except for the "If I'm wrong on everything, what's another possibility here?" theory and I came up with that. Maybe this is a mistake on my part but I was taught to always say what's on your mind, be transparent in your thoughts.
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FFS this is bs. OK I'm sorry if my posts look constructed and formatted, it is my style of typing. I tried my hardest to get here before EoD but I'm at work with only tablet capability. I'm sick of giving excuses for myself but this is my life right now and I'm sorry. EoD is 5 pm for me, 4-6 are my busiest hours. I was typing up a post before this one half hour before EoD responding to LM and Breshke wanting my read on DP. Here it is.
"LM, Breshke - My townread on DarthPunk is not strong. It is a lean. As someone put it earlier, his early filter was Trfel centric which was a red question mark for me but everything since then has seemed pretty Townie. He wanted to lynch LS and did his own past game diving to evolve his read into a town read, which I agreed with because LS felt to me how he felt in the newbie game. There is also a ton of direct questioning from DP, as well as what seems like genuine effort to solve the game. I do see it possible for scum to question and "solve" the game, too, but going head to head with my pretty strong townread in RSo seems like suicide IMO."
After today, I have to look into what Damdred said about DP not being the type to associate himself so closely by defending scum LM. LM flipped Town so did DP trust his town read or was it vying to buy town credit?
I got busy as hell at work as I was typing what is in the quotations and couldn't finish anything or get back on until now. Now I'm logged into what feels like a shiteshow. I was wrong on LM and I swore he was scum. I'm actually really upset about this because his EoD reminded me of me when I had to defend myself last game out of a mislynch. It would've given me enough pause to think about moving wagons, honestly. Breshke not being here is about as damning as me not being here EoD, yes, but the phone excuse he brought up seems to be really weak.
Also, current discussion on Breshke. In his filter, he blatantly started he had DP as townread D1 and had to rethink it. Null on DP for a while, asks someone for their thoughts on DP. Throws this out there.
On January 23 2015 16:03 Breshke wrote:
RSo do you disagree with DP's read on the shining? I think it is fairly similar to what we were discussing before when i said his filter is hard to read. I just don't seem to interpret as being as scummy as DP is.
Implies DP is scummy now. Afterward, he questions DP's townread on LM.
On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.
I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.
I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team.
By that logic, you're implying DP is scum and wants to align himself with LM because he knows LM will flip town and you also imply Town thinks the only way we scum DP is if LM is scum with him since he defended him so this would exonerate DP.
If you believe your own logic, why did you still case and push LM so hard?
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Geript, quoting is a pain in the ass on a tablet. I will only do it here if absolutely necessary, like in this post. Also, I was in that game when both RSo and Damdred were scum(I was a blue role) and I think JJB linked an old scum game of mine in the Newbie game. This isn't my first time saying this but I really think those are horrible examples of play. This is an entirely different atmosphere. I don't think I've tried a fraction as hard there as I have here, sadly.
Breshke, OK well your paranoid world has come to life. LM was town. And now that your paranoid world has come to fruition, you drop DP. You ask him to agree on a no lynch after posting this:
On January 25 2015 17:33 Breshke wrote:
RSo did yout ake another look at my filter do you still think im town?
Also how sure are you on your the shining read are you sure you arnt jsut giving him a pass for being a newbie?
All that shit I said about DP seemingly defending LM from nothing i still think is true but he might just have seen something i didn't. Also he seemed genuinely happy when people started changing their votes to me so i have me hesitations.
Once your mislynch went through, instead of following up your suspicion, you give soft BS reasoning for letting DP go. "Seemed genuinely happy"? He's a vet, I'm sure he can pretend to be happy in a text post. "Saw something you didn't"? Then go filter dive and look for what he saw, or ask him, or bring it up. You dropped this way too fast considering you bothered to mention it in a prior post. Looks to me like you're afraid of DP defending himself and proving you're scum and are trying to buy yourself another NK with the no lynch instead. Or worse, you're back tracking off of a scum partner that you never intended to push, anyway.
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Bresh, I agree, I saw the same in looking at LM's EoD actions. I was just curious if one part of your paranoid world is real, why not question the possibilities of other parts? Mainly because I couldn't see what DP saw in LM, either.
My reads haven't changed all that much. I'm almost as sure about you as I was about LM, which is why I'm listening to these other scum team theories. I was wrong once this game and could be wrong again, although I don't think I am. I was always going to suspect Damdred if LM flipped Town, I even mentioned that in my filter, but I don't see it possible for the two of you to be teammates. So either I'm wrong on you or wrong on him.
The only other slight question mark I have is DP, because of the LM townread and you letting him go so easily. I actually haven't looked into interactions between you two yet but now I want to. I'll have to come back for that.
RSo, there are 6 of us left. What I was getting at is if Breshke somehow does convince us all to no lynch, we still have 6. After Night 4, it'd be 5 with 2 scum. His reasoning looks good on the outside(get rid of a question mark) but it also allows another NK to get rid of our strongest Townie who could figure it all out.
Also, why so snappy with me? I did read. Anything DP-related after that is "idk still paranoid as shit about DP." And that is it. this is a very important lynch for Town. I'm paranoid of basically all of you after my last Mylo experience. I just felt like Bresh set himself up to pursue that train of thought, not chalk it up to paranoia. If anything, Mylo is the best day for theories like that.
At the risk of sounding conceited, Damdred and I would've played a much better game without towning each other and association if we both rolled scum together. He also was ready to lynch me as scum at one point over a misunderstood post alone. I doubt scum would do that to another scum without making sure it wasn't a misunderstandng beforehand. That's not to say I don't think he's scum because I've been on the fence about him basically all game. You are one of my strongest townreads but I'd like to see his case on you first, in case there really is something there I'm not seeing.
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