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On January 27 2015 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:If you are mafia and I lose to you when you are posting shit like that at Mylo i will cry. Nah. I'd be making sure to finish a lynch if I were mafia. But seriously look at shining if he doesn't get modkilled. I'm not sure it's as obvious as you think it is.
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On January 27 2015 18:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 18:28 geript wrote:On January 27 2015 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:On January 27 2015 18:24 rsoultin wrote:On January 27 2015 18:22 DarthPunk wrote:On January 27 2015 18:21 rsoultin wrote: I don't see how his behavior at EoD was enough to completely townread him, is the point, and it troubles me that someone who has managed to do so throughout his filter just went oh okay, he's town now. Full speed ahead. I trust my reads. ...So, rather than considering the possibility that you could be wrong, which you just yelled at me for, you're going to ignore the simple logic that it's to the benefit of a player to shenanigan onto a player not them regardless of alignment and say he's definitely town. Despite the entire rest of he game? Lol, and people call me stubborn. Dude I play with confidence cockiness. Look at any of my town games on here ever. Seriously. Everything you have a problem with is a stylistic thing. Yes I understand that you disagree with the way I play. That is fine. Damdred looks hella townie ever since LM lynch. If you ask geript he will asy the same thing. We have played ALOT of games. WE know what to look for. Fixed that for you I mean it's true though. It's part of the reason you hated me for all that time I imagine. No I hated you because you were an asshat that didn't give me any respect. You've fixed the not giving me any respect part and I really don't give a major fuck about you being an asshat. I mean it's not like I fakeclaimed vigi and pushed you saying I was going to shoot you regardless of what anyone else said or thought on the matter for idk practically 24hrs straight just so I could get a read on you. Then once I got the read I kept that shit up just to piss you off. I'm pretty sure we're even. Like even if you're mafia here I don't really care. It's my bad read.
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Plus there's absolutely nothing funnier than the number of games you've fucked up as host and when you were in the Game and DrH assumed we'd NK you and killed you for us when we wanted to kill someone else. Then he posted in thread that he fucked up.
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On January 27 2015 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 18:34 rsoultin wrote:Well, all I know is, the ones who don't seem to care right now are Shining and Damdred. And you, DP, if you're town...you're right, stylistically I am not a fan of your play. I'm also not a fan of being yelled at constantly by you xP Bastard. This is a student game, after all. My brother was happy to be killed cause y'all aren't very newbie friendly. Just sayin. Ask geript. I am massively toned down compared to usual. Yah, like The Game. Like DP used to be way worse than this. I think getting laid has mellowed him out; maybe it's just the hookers. IDK, but he was town that game and his mafia was way worse than that. Like the best way to read him used to be just push him and someone else into a shitfight with each other. As town, DP would get his head around it at some point. As mafia, he'd just go balls to the wall.
I miss a lot of the old school guys. Keirathi--That guy was just pure swag. Kitaman doesn't really play anymore and he's both good and fun as hell to play with. Old PLammer. Like new Plammer just isn't the same. I only got to play with Ace on his return after his greatness. That made me sad. Greymist is a bunch of fun to play with. Foolishness too. Like I didn't even get to play with many of them but they were hella fun to play with and they were good. Promethelax--Like this guy had to tell people how they could actually read me; it's not really applicable anymore but people used to always get me totally wrong and fear lynch me because I approach the game so oddly. Like, the newbie coaches really don't do justice anymore imo in comparison to some of these guys who used to be able to help train people. Like it's really hard for me to coach town because I have so many specific reads that are really really hard to explain without pointing to a load of games and examples.
Like I just got out of a video mafia game where I had a swag town read on Banks. Banks literally is the Ace of video mafia; he's balla as mafia and insanely good as town. He forgets nothing. I was able to read him as town because of how he approached a read on another player based on their bad read. Then we lynched that person because she loved my swag read but wouldn't reconsider Banks as town because of it (she was mafia).
Plus you've asked about my slam read. Like I've never read Slam wrong. He just approaches the game so differently from other people and you have to engage into his subgame to understand why he's playing.
The big thing that fails to get taught in the newbies, in my experience, and something that I'm awful at explaining is mafia motivation. Like take the WW post I talked about a bit ago. It's totally town. There's no mafia motivation there whatsoever. Those posts are really hard to fake as mafia because of how invested you have to be as playing mafia while still creating natural progressions. It's one of the major reasons why I don't really scumhunt. It's so much easier to find people who you find to be town and just lynch all the other fuckers. Plus, you can get reads on pressured people like LM/GB when they get to that point and you can make big switches. My D1 switch was bad obviously, but switching there was the right play.
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On January 27 2015 18:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 18:36 DarthPunk wrote:On January 27 2015 18:34 rsoultin wrote:On January 27 2015 18:32 DarthPunk wrote: After we lynch breshke I will take a hard look at shining and Rso.
Shining getting modkilled would actually be really really good for us. Unless he's town? Then that would be...like...bad? xP No because then we can't mislynch him and then I would insta lynch you. -_- You do realize if he gets modkilled as town the game is over, right? Or if you lynch me at all. -beats with a wet noodle- Don't you realize that if Breshke is town it doesn't matter if Shining is town. If Shining's mafia, then it's a different story. But if Breshke is town and Shining is town, Shining being modkilled literally has no effect on the game.
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Like one thing I don't really get is why you're voting no lynch. Like if you're town and you think Shining is town (and about to be modkilled), voting no lynch only loses a winnable game. Like it's lylo. You're talking. DP's talking. Damdred's talking... kinda. Breshke's said a bit of stuff. Shining very little. Like IF Damdy/DP is a team, yah I had bad reads on them, but the approach taken at MYLO is super odd for both you and Breshke. No lynch means a town modkill is gg. No lynch gives you less room to win the game. No lynch literally only removes my ability to talk. Like I've talked today to death.
Also DP if you are mafia, one thing I would say is chill on the "stay the course" talk you gave me at the start of the day. It really caught me off guard. But idk how you would approach me there as town.
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On January 27 2015 18:54 rsoultin wrote: I actually don't know when people get modkilled lol. They've always been replaced in the games except for Cool. Most hosts and the hosts I respect generally don't replace after the start of N2 and definitely not after the start of D3. Like it's too unfair to the state of the game and too unfair to the player coming in. There's a bit of an exception for newbie games because they're supposed to be more of a learning tool than anything else. Winning/Losing is far less of an issue. I really doubt BH would replace someone in now.
As a general rule what I use when I host is: 1. No replacements for souring a game. 99% of time it mod confirms town by someone being a complete jackass to other people. 2. No replacements after the start of N2. Very rarely can people catch up reasonably. 3. No replacements after 100+ pages. This is usually more applicable to large games. Often it's too unfair for the person replacing in to be able to catch up and it's quite hard for them to stave off the lynch.
My hardest experience in replacing in was in Greymist's Catastrophe game. I literally replaced in like 200 pages in. I actually ended up getting fully caught up, but both catching up and avoiding getting lynched there was practically impossible. It's really funny because the first thing I did while catching up was just read filters. I started at/around Keirathi's only to find out like he died N1. It was a terrible travesty. I was devastated.
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On January 27 2015 19:08 DarthPunk wrote: im not scum jesus stop hedging geript. I have to be able to say "I knew it all along though!!!" Believably.
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On January 28 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote: Possibility exists where scum geript pulls votes off town lm to partner scum breshke for town cred not thinking people will be active. Hell I started the votes on bresh. Maybe this is for cred and bussing bresh now hrm The possibility of unicorns existing and spiriting me away to a land where everyone is ridiculously hot, never wear clothes and all want my D is about as high.
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On January 28 2015 03:31 rsoultin wrote: why would he need cred if bresh isnt lynched?
like i agree that you coming off bresh makes it harder to believe youre scum. its my one reservation right now. but woth three on bresh and if youre scum with either dp or shining and can get a wagon started on a town geript you can secure a mislynch while moving off bresh. there are 4 town to frame after all and you and dp arent providing cases in particular
consider lynching dp or shining and i might believe youre town. make a real case For swag clearly
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On January 28 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote: I'm not making cases on my town reads sadly. You aren't thinking about it though rso if your town keep being blind Yah. Guess you wouldn't want to be put to shame by the best case of 2015.
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What else is there to talk through that I haven't already said today?
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On January 28 2015 04:26 Breshke wrote: Lol damdred suspecting geript again and not wanting to nl is retarded. Dandred isnt reconsidering his town reads so is left with a world of me and rso which he admits doesnt make sense. what you then start pretending you are considering geript yet you dont want to nl to see if he dies in the night. pfft Literally no one has said you're mafia for not being around at EoD. Like that's one of the dumbest reasons to call someone mafia ever when you factor in time zones.
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Actually Damdred, there is a situation where Breshke is the town between SHining and Rsoultin that I hadn't thought of. It's where rsoultin doesn't unvote LM because she thinks they can't mislynch him after that point.
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On January 28 2015 05:10 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 05:05 geript wrote:On January 28 2015 04:26 Breshke wrote: Lol damdred suspecting geript again and not wanting to nl is retarded. Dandred isnt reconsidering his town reads so is left with a world of me and rso which he admits doesnt make sense. what you then start pretending you are considering geript yet you dont want to nl to see if he dies in the night. pfft Literally no one has said you're mafia for not being around at EoD. Like that's one of the dumbest reasons to call someone mafia ever when you factor in time zones. DP has What are the other arguments against me then DP and Damdred are town and it's hard to see you not in a scum team.
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Like My point where they can't afford to not mislynch LM is the one of the few in your favor of you not being in a scumteam.
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On January 28 2015 05:26 Damdred wrote: I could live with lynching RS first possibly Yah idk. I'd rather lynch Shining. Like Rso makes enough sense too because of literally the 80 times this game she's asked 4-5 times on things that have totally been explained.
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On January 28 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote: You don't see the issue with hard alligning like this in mylo? I think shining is town but I at least let people talk about otherwise without blocking all fiscussion Yes. The fizzcussion is very important. Those fish need to be allowed room to breathe and grow before they can really snowball hard.
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I think only 1 of rso/breshke is mafia, but of the two I think rso is the more towny but no clue honestly. And that's despite the meta read on breshke
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