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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 08 2013 23:35 GMT
#7
/in <3

Setup looks exactly like my cup of tea.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 09 2013 02:19 GMT
#22
On March 09 2013 10:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok nvm /in

i didn't want to play 2 games at once... but this setup is too intriguing


<3 It's been far to long thrawn old mate.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 14 2013 11:10 GMT
#61
On March 14 2013 08:10 goodkarma wrote:
/in


YAY!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 03:02 GMT
#110
YAYAYAY
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 07:17 GMT
#146
On March 16 2013 16:14 geript wrote:
Thank you. Can someone else give me a number between 387 and 412?

Nah.

I am super excited to start this game!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 07:18 GMT
#148
On March 16 2013 16:17 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 16:01 Wade Fell wrote:
We already have.

Anyone who gets modkilled is eternally on my shit list. This game, modkills don't flip.


But if someone gets modkilled, we'd get to play with Ace.

Which would be fucking awesome. O.O



Regarding Policy:
Let's not policy lynch. It's stupid.

Regarding lurker lynches: Town lurkers seem to be semi-prevalent in these bigger games, and as such imho there will be better people to lynch day one. Leave lurkers to vigis if need be.

And as for "randomized lynching," we should be able to get some decent scumreads day one. Sure, day one can be challenging, but it's not impossible to get a solid scum lynch the first day. So again, no thanks.

Regarding Setup Speculation:
Until such a time we find this game has heavily themed aspects, I highly recommend we don't waste time on setup speculation and focus on finding scum.


You say that but in my last game with him he rage quit because everyone else was too stupid 0_o
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 07:36 GMT
#164
On March 16 2013 16:22 Wade Fell wrote:
geript is there a particular reason you haven't voted for zarepath since you already rnged him? it seems to me that if you realy wanted to rng your lynch, you'd use the lynch you've already rnged. Why the cold feet?


Yeah I really like this actually. What Gives?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 07:38 GMT
#165
On March 16 2013 16:32 Wade Fell wrote:
Answer: you're scum caught with your pants down and are now "going to bed" because someone is challenging your ideas


Don't be silly. If you call everyone scum so easily there will be no townies left in this game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 07:44 GMT
#170
What's more it is easy to see that it is quite late in his time zone and thus his explanation about going to bed is probably actually factual rather than the evasion of questioning that you seem to have implied.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 07:45 GMT
#171
On March 16 2013 16:43 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 16 2013 16:22 Wade Fell wrote:
geript is there a particular reason you haven't voted for zarepath since you already rnged him? it seems to me that if you realy wanted to rng your lynch, you'd use the lynch you've already rnged. Why the cold feet?


Yeah I really like this actually. What Gives?

I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested. How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?


I feel the whole RNG thing is fucking retarded in general. But that's just me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 16 2013 07:46 GMT
#172
##Vote:Geript

I feel like I would like him to stop everything he is currently doing. What better way to silence someone than by lynching them?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 11:36 GMT
#450
On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:

Sandro:

I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.

What does town sandro look like?

What do you think of DarthPunk?

You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?"

So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?

##Vote: DarthPunk


LoL just cacthing up now. One thing though. I doubt anyone could interpret my vote as anything more than some pressure to stop his RNG bullshit. That's clearly what it was but you claiming that I was trying to lynch him off that is complete BS.

I doubt this misinterpretation could be anything but deliberate.

##unvote

##Vote:Cosmicomics


Explain how the fuck you think I was actually doing anything more than a pressure vote on someone in order to get them to cease a terrible idea/plan?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 13:42 GMT
#451
On March 17 2013 13:52 goodkarma wrote:
Well, here it comes... The promised post. While I don't know if it can live up to everyone's expectations, I'll do my best. These are the people I've currently focused my attention on.:

Greymist
First off, go through Greymist's filter and here's your challenge: find a game he's played in that is a serious one (e.g. non-caller) he solo played. I found one hydra game, and a caller game, but those aren't exactly helpful in this context. Hence why I asked. I'm 99% sure that people just spewed out the accusation I was too lazy to search without even thinking to look themselves, because that's their level of fucking lazy... I sifted through the 10 pages and couldn't find anything...

Greymist is someone that has contributed nothing of value to date. What little he has said seems to be either completely not relevant to the game, general agreement to remarks made, or concern about being accused in the case of sandroba. He hasn't stuck his neck out at all, and is currently on my scumlist. He is my top scumread, as unlike some other lurker-type players, he's had ample opportunity to contribute and every time he's opted to provide nothing of value.

##Vote: Greymist

Darthpunk
Darthpunk is someone whose play I know can be stellar as both town and scum, yet currently I'm leaning towards scum. He has been lurking the thread rather hard, which is uncharacteristic of both his town and scum play. Yet what little he has said just doesn't make sense to me as town. He seems content to lynch the first (trolly) thing that moves (gerupt), and then to not followup in thread at all... This is definitely not pro-town, and I'm leaning scum on him, but I'd really like to see more from him. It's the biggest reason I've been trying to wait before giving scumreads, because I was really expecting more from him.

Peashooter
When it comes to thepeashooter, I was in general agreement with blazinghand's case. However, what sticks out to me is that instead of backing down, he's decided to maintain his case against coagulation. This is not the kind of move I'd expect from scum, as all it does is have him keeping his neck stuck out in general view. It would have been much easier for him (as scum) to move to a popular target and hide behind him. As such, I'm inclined to not vote for him this cycle and give him a chance. This is not a wagon I plan to get behind.

Sandroba
Finally, there's Sandroba. What worries me most about Sandroba is that lurking the shit out of thread is a scumtell for him. I'm thinking specifically of the scumgame he had in chrono trigger mafia, the only game I've personally played with him. There, past a certain point, he kind of just completely gave up trying. If he can't contribute any further by the deadline, my vote will likely switch to him.



Well. I really don't like this post from Goodkarma but maybe that is just my personal preference of not really liking posts that contain a paragraph each on several people.

The case against goodkarma was your standard day one case that doesn't really feel very strong at all and I wouldn't like to lynch goodkarma today regardless. GK is really quite an asset as town and someone who I am confident I can catch later.

When it comes to what you said about me you are right I haven;t done much yet. But you are wrong that I was genuinely trying to lynch geript. It was a standard pressure vote at the beginning of the game and that should be obvious.

Peashooter is pretty null at the moment I certainly don;t see anythign that would make me want to lynch him really badly.

I am not sure that lurkers are really the place to look straight up. Sure, stick a vote on them and pressure them but I wouldn;t want to lynch someone just on inactivity.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 13:43 GMT
#452
On March 17 2013 14:14 Wade Fell wrote:
why does everyone in this game and last game think I have like this massive ego

I just _happen_ to always be right, it doesn't mean I have a big head about it


LOL I know for a fact that you are wrong quite often. <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 13:53 GMT
#454
On March 17 2013 14:45 Wade Fell wrote:
Yeah I gotta admit the new GK post isn't super sexy :| but GK is not a sexy man. contrast his "promised post" in NMMXXIV though (link) and it's like exactly the friggen same. This is town GK. I'll even quote his post so you can see it and I like never do that

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2012 15:24 goodkarma wrote:
Okay, my long promised "case post." I'm sorry for the hype, as this is going to be short and possibly a bit disappointing for those that were anticipating it + Show Spoiler +
(like latest Batman movie disappointing )
.

But here's my case. It's going to be short and sweet.:

A big part of day one is establishing a good future town atmosphere. To that end, there are several people that are not participating as they should. The guiltiest of these are: Jhuyt and Golbat.

Jhuyt:
Jhuyt is especially suspicious to me right now. I have read the recent case presented against him by Archrun above. I tend to agree heavily with his first point: about Jhuyt's experience with Solar's post history on TL being consistent with his posting. I'm not ready to call Jhuyt a liar, but claiming Solar is troll/emotional generally on TL requires further explanation. Upon looking through some of his posts, I haven't seen this to be the case. If he is lying, this is enough reason to lynch him.

Now the other part of Jhuyt that is scummy is how wishy-washy he is in the limited amount of content he has posted. Let's look at his latest post. In bold are his current "reads" on certain people. Notice how hesitant he is to take a stance on anyone.:


Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 20:18 Jhuyt wrote:
Hmm, you're right, I should try to be more helpful.

On Solar: This is just how he is in general from what I've seen on TL, so I don't have anything there.

On Shady: Shady tries to control the game, which is an act that I don't often see in normal townies, I've most often encountered it when a scum tries to make everybody think he's the sheriff. It is, however, a game of high risk and relies heavily on the actual sheriff being useless. He might be the sheriff as well, and this is why I think the first day is kinda silly, I don't know what to think solely based on his posts, they seem consistent.

I still think that YourHarry is something scummy simply because his posting behavior is strange, on everybody else, I need more evidence before making up my mind.


Also, he is currently the winner of the "lurker prize." It is clear from what he has contributed that he has little interest in scum hunting. Therefore:

##Vote: Jyuht

Consider it both a vote based on scum behavior and on "lurker policy." In the absence of a stronger scum read my vote goes on him.


Golbat:
I expected more from you. I know that it really sucks being mislynched day 1, and I haven't ruled out your lurkiness as being from over-reacting to your poor play in XXII by playing almost the exact opposite of how you played then. But you have to step up and continue posting your reads. What got you in trouble then was vote-swapping without giving much explanation. As long as you give an explanation for your reads, don't be afraid to FoS and vote. What you're doing now makes you look just as scummy as how you looked in XXII.

##FoS: Golbat


YourHarry:
I haven't forgotten about you. However poorly I feel you'd be playing as town by playing the way you are right now, I can't say it would be inconsistent with what I'd expect based on your previous play. I'm not un-FoS-ing you but I'm not ready to vote you as my top scum read right now either.



is it shit? yes. But that was town GK, and this is town GK


I have zero faith in your meta cases BH. and I think this is a super weak reason to be so confident in a town read. What gives?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 14:12 GMT
#457
On March 17 2013 05:00 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 16 2013 16:46 DarthPunk wrote:
##Vote:Geript

I feel like I would like him to stop everything he is currently doing. What better way to silence someone than by lynching them?


+ Show Spoiler [Bias] +

On March 16 2013 16:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 16:43 geript wrote:
On March 16 2013 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 16 2013 16:22 Wade Fell wrote:
geript is there a particular reason you haven't voted for zarepath since you already rnged him? it seems to me that if you realy wanted to rng your lynch, you'd use the lynch you've already rnged. Why the cold feet?


Yeah I really like this actually. What Gives?

I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested. How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?


I feel the whole RNG thing is fucking retarded in general. But that's just me.

(British mini)
On January 04 2013 14:51 DarthPunk wrote:
He is pissed off at an obviously crafted policy post. I myself hate that shit most of the time and can empathise with his position even if I don't agree with all of it.

Not alignment indicative, really he is just stating his own policy.

Aggression, unless used in a meta case, is not alignment indicative either.



This game DarthPunk has vote for geript and wants him dead. And yet he appears to be doing this on the basis that geript was attempting an RNG lynch. He doesn't state that geript is scummy but still votes for him. DarthPunk admits that he hates that RNG/policy talk but NOT that it's scummy.

This is scummy.


It's called a stop being a moron vote. That should be obvious. Is obvious. And you are scummy as fuck for not 'understanding' that.

Now I don't know who I want to lynch more you or Cosmi for sheeping something as bad as this so blatantly. I probably go with the scummy sheep for now though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 14:15 GMT
#458
Righty-O off to bed. I had friends over today which is why I was useless. I'll be on in the morning to tear it up.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 23:18 GMT
#598
On March 18 2013 07:41 cosmicomics wrote:
Sunday is busy day. Still catching up but addressing first things first.

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:

Sandro:

I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.

What does town sandro look like?

What do you think of DarthPunk?

You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?"

So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?

##Vote: DarthPunk


LoL just cacthing up now. One thing though. I doubt anyone could interpret my vote as anything more than some pressure to stop his RNG bullshit. That's clearly what it was but you claiming that I was trying to lynch him off that is complete BS.

I doubt this misinterpretation could be anything but deliberate.

##unvote

##Vote:Cosmicomics


Explain how the fuck you think I was actually doing anything more than a pressure vote on someone in order to get them to cease a terrible idea/plan?

DarthPunk is caught lying and is trying to backpedal. My post specifically mentioned how geript had already stopped pursuing RNG material. Why would a town pressure vote to stop someone's "terrible idea" if they already stopped doing it in the very post they quoted?

There was a slight possibility that DarthPunk was also trying to shut down geript's tarot card speculation, but in this post it is clear that it was not what he was doing. He himself admits that it was pressure to stop RNG. So there is absolutely no town reason why he would do this to geript. The only reason is to misinterpret geript as doing "terrible idea/plans", and try to mislynch him off that.

##Vote: DarthPunk


Yeah he was starting to talk about something to do with tarot cards which is not much better, to be honest I just thought that the tarot card stuff was some variation of RNG in that it was going to determine a lynch candidate through arbitary means. Which it was. So it is exactly like RNG.

You are being pedantic to a fault and are trying to mislynch me off something ridiculous.

This is LITERALLY your argument. "Guise! let's lynch DP because he says he was pressuring to stop RNG arbitrary lynch selection when geript was in fact using Tarot cards to arbitrarily lynch someone! He lied he is scum!"

Honestly in no way does anything you have wrote make me scum.

VE please re-read my posts and then discover that there is actually no contradiction whatsoever.

I didn't like GK's post. I also don't want to lynch Goodkarma today because I have played many games with him and know he is an asset as town whom I could also read if he was scum.

Not a contradiction. a completely valid position on goodkarma.

I didn't question BH for having a town read on someone I didn;t want to lynch. I questioned him for making a dead set town read on someone with really weak/no reasoning aside from some bad meta case. This is a question on BH not on goodkarma. and should be obvious. IS in fact obvious to others who read it correctly.

Also I don't like lurker policy lynches. But there is a difference between policy lynching a lurker and voting for someone who happens to be a lurker for nothing to do with lurking. Which you should know.




"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#600
Oh and viscera eyes stating that townies don't pressure vote in the first hour or something of the game and trying to get me lynched based on that blows my mind completely. everyone have a good look at VE please.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
March 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#603
On March 18 2013 02:10 layabout wrote:
sandro will either get shot or be really obvious mafia by day 2-3.

cosmicomic's vote makes sense because DarthPunk claims to have made a pressure vote but at that time a pressure vote was unnecessary and DP's contribution was empty.
Speaking of which:


DarthPunk came back and looks scummy and you all just ignored him.

He calls me scum for calling him scummy and votes cosmicomics for voting for him. But I don't know if this is a real vote or just a "pressure vote" since he follows the vote by trying to engage in a discussion with cosmicomics.

He then tells us that he thinks GKis a poor lynch but criticizes BH's defense of GK. This indirectly supports a GK lynch but he does nothing to make it happen. If you read this post you will notice that DarthPunk seems to agree that GK is scummy or at least dislike's his posting. It's as if he isn't sure if a GK lynch is going to happen so he is hedging.

He acknowledges that he has contributed very little but feels an OMGUS is enough of a contribuution for day1.

This is scum behavior. DathPunk is scum

##vote: DarthPunk


Yep you are scum because you reasoning could only be this bad and warped intentionally. I always follow votes by trying to engage in discussion it seems normal to me but somehow trying to get into a discussion and push a scumread is scummy?

THe pressure on Blazing had nothing to do with goodkarma's alignment. It should be obvious that I was pressuring him on making a dead set town read based on weak meta so swiftly. Why? Because scum are likely to make town reads like that and town are not. I was asking BH incase there was something that I missed.

I am not hedging. I stated very clearly I DO NOT WANT A GOODKARMA LYNCH TO HAPPEN TODAY. am I hedging now? NO GOODKARMA LYNCH.

Yeah I was busy yesterday but stayed up late to post what I did which was more than an OMGUS. But I really don't need to convince you. You are either scum or terrible town and either way are not worth my limited time.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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