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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:24 GMT
#5542
On January 08 2015 03:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 03:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:16 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm pretty sure mafia only got 1 KP Vivax. I think someone said it earlier. anything it would be ridiciously OP anyway, so I don't think that post is alignment indicative at all.


Where did a HOST say that mafia has 1 KP

I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere, though not 100% certain. I know Koshi and Co. talked about it alot pregame because they wanted the game to be balanced and stuff. This isn't very relevant though. Just drop it. If SL is scum (which I think he is) then its not because of this.


Wait. Wait.

I post information on why SL just claimed why he's scum. You say you think he's scum. Now you basically say "I think it has been said somewhere but I'm not sure" instead of frantically looking for the point where it has been said cause then you would have the easiest reason in the world to finally lynch Sicklucker.

You just claimed scum yourself.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:25 GMT
#5543
HOSTS WHAT IS SCUM KP WHY ISNT THE INFORMATION IN THE OP
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:28 GMT
#5549
On January 08 2015 03:26 Damdred wrote:
I can answer this, Slam has never directly stated what scums KP is. But I don't think this adds to the game in any way discussing it, i'm just logically concluding it was 2 until it was 1. But we will know for sure after this night phase.

Any way i would like to move away from this discussion.


HOW ISNT IT RELEVANT WHAT THEIR KP IS.
WE NEED TO KNOW IF THEIR VIG USED THE SHOTS, which means KP is 1. If he didn't, KP Was 2.
YOU ALL MAKE ZERO SENSE.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:31 GMT
#5556
Robik don't tell me you are town pls.

Pls.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:32 GMT
#5557
Ah crap didn't know I couldn't ask questions in thread.

Brb after asking Slam.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:41 GMT
#5562
On January 08 2015 03:33 Lazermonkey wrote:
The fact that Vivax freaked about this so much actually makes me feel kinda good about him. I guess this isn't impossible to fake as scum but I have a harder time thinking that scum would "fake" to freak out about some retarded fact, like this, than town would.


Yes I faked that I started wondering what scum KP is after that post from SL that made literally zero sense "we lose regardless if we lynch scum or not".

That post only makes sense if he knows that scum has 2 KP and didn't use the vig shots, and if he knows that among my lynch targets there isn't the scum vig.

And I obviously faked all of this /irony
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:44 GMT
#5563
If I don't get universally townread after all this shit then you all can't play mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 18:45 GMT
#5564
First guy to wonder what the scum KP even is.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 19:00 GMT
#5587
On January 08 2015 03:27 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 03:24 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:16 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm pretty sure mafia only got 1 KP Vivax. I think someone said it earlier. anything it would be ridiciously OP anyway, so I don't think that post is alignment indicative at all.


Where did a HOST say that mafia has 1 KP

I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere, though not 100% certain. I know Koshi and Co. talked about it alot pregame because they wanted the game to be balanced and stuff. This isn't very relevant though. Just drop it. If SL is scum (which I think he is) then its not because of this.


Wait. Wait.

I post information on why SL just claimed why he's scum. You say you think he's scum. Now you basically say "I think it has been said somewhere but I'm not sure" instead of frantically looking for the point where it has been said cause then you would have the easiest reason in the world to finally lynch Sicklucker.

You just claimed scum yourself.

lolno. Now you are just being stupid. I never bothered to check because 5 scum vs 15 town with 2 KP AND a 2 shot vigi is OP beyond imagination. Thats why I didn't "franctically look" for it.


Is it OP?
Is 5 scum vs 13 town and 2 KP per night OP if you assume they use the shots immediately?

13 5
12 5 Mislynch
10 5 Kills
9 5 Mislynch
7 5 Kills
6 5 Mislynch - scum wins here

7 4 Correct lynch
5 4 Kills
5 3 correct lynch - scum wins

No medic protection went through all game long, now it's out.Medic had a chance to stop Nightkills.So town loses with 3 mislynches, and 2 if the medic doesn't protect shit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 19:08 GMT
#5595
On January 08 2015 04:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 04:00 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:27 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:24 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2015 03:16 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm pretty sure mafia only got 1 KP Vivax. I think someone said it earlier. anything it would be ridiciously OP anyway, so I don't think that post is alignment indicative at all.


Where did a HOST say that mafia has 1 KP

I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere, though not 100% certain. I know Koshi and Co. talked about it alot pregame because they wanted the game to be balanced and stuff. This isn't very relevant though. Just drop it. If SL is scum (which I think he is) then its not because of this.


Wait. Wait.

I post information on why SL just claimed why he's scum. You say you think he's scum. Now you basically say "I think it has been said somewhere but I'm not sure" instead of frantically looking for the point where it has been said cause then you would have the easiest reason in the world to finally lynch Sicklucker.

You just claimed scum yourself.

lolno. Now you are just being stupid. I never bothered to check because 5 scum vs 15 town with 2 KP AND a 2 shot vigi is OP beyond imagination. Thats why I didn't "franctically look" for it.


Is it OP?
Is 5 scum vs 13 town and 2 KP per night OP if you assume they use the shots immediately?

13 5
12 5 Mislynch
10 5 Kills
9 5 Mislynch
7 5 Kills
6 5 Mislynch - scum wins here

7 4 Correct lynch
5 4 Kills
5 3 correct lynch - scum wins

No medic protection went through all game long, now it's out.Medic had a chance to stop Nightkills.So town loses with 3 mislynches, and 2 if the medic doesn't protect shit.

You are erally bad at math.

If mafia has a vig that shoots immediately,

13 5
12 5
9 5
8 5
5 5 gg

I refuse to believe you're this dumb. I just refuse


Rofl why 3 KP per night which isn't what we witnessed? I assumed vigi would shoot immediately immediately 2 of the 20 players and then started making that countdown.

You call me bad at math but then didn't realize I took two players out immediately like you did now, instead you add 1 extra KP per night when the vigi descriuption says "he can shoot whenever he pleases"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 19:20 GMT
#5596
9 vs 5 we're at. Scum only has 1 KP according to what marv posted, no idea why the op doesn't get updated in time.
8 v 5 Mislynch
7 v 5 Kill
6 v 5 Mislynch
5 v 5 We lose

So we need 2 mislynches to lose now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 19:21 GMT
#5597
Robik use the information from the last few pages to push the assumption that I'm scum now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 19:38 GMT
#5607
On January 08 2015 04:25 IAmRobik wrote:
you're still fucking scum. jesus. asdofnsdfgnosdfn;aisodfn

##vote: gb


I just told you to use the information and find my mafia motivation in bringing up all that confused stuff, as that should be in your best interest right now.

I spotted a weird comment from SL on how he says that no matter if we lynch my scumreads and one of them is mafia, we lose the game (which isn't true cause we have 2 mislynches left)

I assumed he slipped that they have a scum vigi alive and mafia KP is 2.

So, why did I do all of this.

-Being misinformed about scum KP mechanics that they know best.

- missing the post where Alakaslam decides to implement that mafia kill mechanics into the game.

Immediatelly call out Lazermonkey cause he didn't want to go take a closer look at where the KP was written when he's supposed to be after SL.

Are you telling me that this is mafia play?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#5644
Essentially, for the last few pages I should be townread for effort. For being misinformed about mafia KP mechanics they know very well from the very start of the game while townies dont unless they read the shit Alakaslam accepted when Koshi told him to.

Cause in my misinformation I lashed out at LM scumreading SL for not going after Sicklucker when I presented information for him being scum, this quote right here :

That's cause LM was aware that scum Kp was ONE and hence didn't feel like he could use it as an argument against this :
We cant lynch who vivax says because with only 1 mislynch left we lose regardless if hes right or wrong.

This is now the slip.
First: We have 2 mislynches left, not one as SL claims.
Second: I was antertaining the option that if they have 2 vigs out there and they can still shoot at anytime, how does it make sense that SL is so sure that whatever we lynch of the scumreads, we lose. Wouldn't he be supposed to think that only in the case that scum has still 2 KP in the next night?

On January 08 2015 04:42 IAmRobik wrote:

To sound townie. Because asking questions in game as opposed to privately to the mod as I may or may not have been doing is wifom and mafia can be sneaky devils


Well now you can read the above and admire how I shit townieness by pointing out thie interesting things in this complex matter.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 21:18 GMT
#5701
Why did Damred not simply pile up on my wagon and try to stir the fire D2.
He had basically a golden opportunity when the day alone started with like 7 votes on me. Did he expect me to die anyway and wanted cred for the flip?

Also have a hard time finding the tone differences between the two games Palmar. I think in mission mini or world cup I caught him simply cause before a lynch he claimed to have a scumread on somebody and then he didn't attempt to lynch or something similar. Or maybe it was a townread he didn't defend against a scumread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 21:20 GMT
#5705
On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote:
Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it.

I kount vot and stahp it


ritoky (1): Superbia
TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz
geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks
sicklucker (1): ritoky
Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear
Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik

Not Voting: folks

batsnacks is lynched.

until deadline.




I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc)
IAmRobik (1): Superbia
geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in


reposting the votes with my town reads

blue = my town reads
Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis.

I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him.

I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart.

because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read.

so my scum team right now is:
1) marv
2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL.
4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me
5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5.


OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker.

GG

##vote: ritoky

sorry for not listening marv

#teammarbic


Good shit.
##Unvote
##Vote ritoky
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 21:25 GMT
#5715
Oh well at least now I know all my efforts on SL weren't for nothing, you broke my heart with that greencheck.

SL!SL!SL!

##Unvote
##Vote Sicklucker
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 21:28 GMT
#5722
Ok RObik is town.

Fuck him though
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 21:28 GMT
#5725
On January 08 2015 06:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh jesus.

marv, come claim your green on me and get this dude lynched


Wait what
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2015 21:34 GMT
#5739
On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote:
let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote:
le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me.


ok out your checks then bro


DrH n1 was green
SL n2 was green

i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red.

fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints.



On January 08 2015 06:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote:
Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it.

I kount vot and stahp it


ritoky (1): Superbia
TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz
geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks
sicklucker (1): ritoky
Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear
Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik

Not Voting: folks

batsnacks is lynched.

until deadline.




I Count this vote sons


Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky
Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc)
IAmRobik (1): Superbia
geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP]

Geript is lynched.
Deadline is in


reposting the votes with my town reads

blue = my town reads
Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis.

I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him.

I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart.

because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read.

so my scum team right now is:
1) marv
2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL.
4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me
5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5.


OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker.

GG

##vote: ritoky

sorry for not listening marv

#teammarbic


We need that counterclaim.

Till then, he is confirmed. But yes, I sort of do expect a counterclaim.

Disclaimer: I am no role. Lynch me if I ever claim one.

What?!?!? Absoluetly not

REAL COP DO NOT FUCKING COUNTER CLAIM. THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS FAKE CLAIM OF ALL FUCKING TIME. DUDE DOESN'T EVEN COLOR IN HIS FUCKING CHECK. LOLOLOL. HE ALSO DOES 0 ANALYSIS ON WHETHER THAT PERSON IS ACTUALLY FRAMED.


Ok, Robik is scum. He didn't even read the very recent post where ritoky answeres to the same accusation I made.
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