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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:27:30
December 31 2014 00:26 GMT
#201
The game was balanced around 21 people btw.

On December 30 2014 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Yeah you can have 2 static kp vs 3 save roles. But this game is supposed to be low on blues.

15 vs 6 with a 2 shot town vigi and a 1 shot scum vigi is balanced I think. And the prs currently in the OP.

If the town vigi hits 2 towns scum wins after 3ml when there are no saves. (town needs 6 correct lynches)
If the town vigi hits 1 scum/1town scum wins with 4 ml when there are no saves. (town needs 5 correct lynches)
If the town vigi hits 2 scums the game ends with 5 ml when there are no saves (town needs 4 correct lynches)


Now with 14 vs 6 if town hits 1 scum / 1 town, town still loses with 3 ml and they need 5 correct lynches.


So... this game got a lot harder on town.

Unless you make it 15 vs 5 but I dnu how that works. Ugh counting again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:26 GMT
#202
The guy who doesn't hit simply tries the next night. If he gets ml or nk, his shot goes off because of the nk or his play was bad.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 31 2014 00:26 GMT
#203
I don't think that is a good solution.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 31 2014 00:27 GMT
#204
On December 31 2014 09:26 Koshi wrote:
The game was balanced around 21 people btw.

Show nested quote +
On December 30 2014 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Yeah you can have 2 static kp vs 3 save roles. But this game is supposed to be low on blues.

15 vs 6 with a 2 shot town vigi and a 1 shot scum vigi is balanced I think. And the prs currently in the OP.

If the town vigi hits 2 towns scum wins after 3ml when there are no saves. (town needs 6 correct lynches)
If the town vigi hits 1 scum/1town scum wins with 4 ml when there are no saves. (town needs 5 correct lynches)
If the town vigi hits 2 scums the game ends with 5 ml when there are no saves (town needs 4 correct lynches)


Now with 15 vs 5 if town hits 1 scum / 1 town, town still loses with 3 ml and they need 5 correct lynches.


So... this game got a lot harder on town.

Also this.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:27 GMT
#205
On December 31 2014 09:26 Koshi wrote:
The game was balanced around 21 people btw.

Show nested quote +
On December 30 2014 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Yeah you can have 2 static kp vs 3 save roles. But this game is supposed to be low on blues.

15 vs 6 with a 2 shot town vigi and a 1 shot scum vigi is balanced I think. And the prs currently in the OP.

If the town vigi hits 2 towns scum wins after 3ml when there are no saves. (town needs 6 correct lynches)
If the town vigi hits 1 scum/1town scum wins with 4 ml when there are no saves. (town needs 5 correct lynches)
If the town vigi hits 2 scums the game ends with 5 ml when there are no saves (town needs 4 correct lynches)


Now with 15 vs 5 if town hits 1 scum / 1 town, town still loses with 3 ml and they need 5 correct lynches.


So... this game got a lot harder on town.

Considering this, would you recommend another cop/doctor?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:28 GMT
#206
or a Veteran?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2014 00:29 GMT
#207
Too many powerroles. Then scum needs to work around 5 of their own and 5 powerroles.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:29 GMT
#208
On December 31 2014 09:26 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think that is a good solution.

and expand on this, is this simply an opinion or do you have an explanation? if you explain it, I will understand and change the setup. that is the main reason everything is open.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:30:25
December 31 2014 00:29 GMT
#209
Add 1 more cop and a mayor maybe? I like mayor because either side has to work to win that advantage. Or just a mayor. Town could totally fuck itself by voting for a scum but thats okay and mayors are under much scrutiny as it is
RIP Aaliyah
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:29 GMT
#210
On December 31 2014 09:29 Koshi wrote:
Too many powerroles. Then scum needs to work around 5 of their own and 5 powerroles.

then for 20, what do you suggest?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 31 2014 00:29 GMT
#211
Just force someone to /in. And give us either 2 normal one shot vigs or a 2 shot. I really think this random bullshit will cause unnecessary drama.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
December 31 2014 00:30 GMT
#212
Just /in FF.
Minimal effort.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2014 00:31 GMT
#213
ohyeah 6 scum. I keep saying 5.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:32 GMT
#214
On December 31 2014 09:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Just force someone to /in. And give us either 2 normal one shot vigs or a 2 shot. I really think this random bullshit will cause unnecessary drama.

ingame or postgame?

if ingame explain why it matters

if postgame see op regarding reporting posts, I don't care about whining over something told in advance with no full explanation why not to do it.

It is actually a way to help town a bit, if they lose the vig they lose ALL their kp, if they lose one vig at least they still have some.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:34:17
December 31 2014 00:33 GMT
#215
Maybe only RNG if both shots are on town or both on scum. Else only let the shot through on scum if 1 shot on mafia and 1 shot on town. Free green check if both vigis are donkey.

Yeah, it's weird as fuck. But it's fun.
Minimal effort.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:33 GMT
#216
If one player makes that much difference believe me I can find one

Easily.

I need two cohosts believe me. My schedule irl is so erratic it is amazing I still try to host.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
December 31 2014 00:34 GMT
#217
Reason: Your mechanic adds randomness where it is not needed. Randomness in a game of mafia sucks.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:34 GMT
#218
On December 31 2014 09:33 Superbia wrote:
Maybe only RNG if both shots are on town or both on scum. Else only let the shot through on scum if 1 shot on mafia and 1 shot on town. Free green check if both vigi's are donkey.

Yeah, it's weird as fuck. But it's fun.

dude! I like this

only problem is that maybe helps town too much? Unless I don't get this other guy
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:37:45
December 31 2014 00:36 GMT
#219
On December 31 2014 09:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Reason: Your mechanic adds randomness where it is not needed. Randomness in a game of mafia sucks.

well, it is only between 50/50 odds for a specific scenario. and that scenario is like 75/25 in favor of happening once but that would be the only time.

Also, randomness comes from players just as much as from setup, if not more.

But I hear you, does Superbia's solution help?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:39:48
December 31 2014 00:38 GMT
#220
If nobody joins I suggest to remove the scum vigi.

Without the scum vigi:
14 vs 6
13 vs 6 ml
12 vs 5 (scum nk, town vigi hits 1 scum)
11 vs 5 ml
9 vs 5 (scum nk, town vigi hits 1 town)
8 vs 5 ml
7 vs 5 and mylo (town needs safe from doc to make it to 4 ml)

And when vigi hits town only:
14 vs 6
13 vs 6 ml
11 vs 6 (scum nk, town vigi hits 1 town)
10 vs 6 ml
8 vs 6 (scum nk, town vigi hits 1 town)
7 vs 6 ml
6 vs 6 and loss after 3 ml. (Town needs 2 saves to get to 4 ml)
I had a good night of sleep.
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