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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
December 31 2014 00:38 GMT
#221
A bright person once said "Keep it simple, stupid."
This is a normal game. Let's not add in more variables like vig RNGs and stuff like that, please.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:38 GMT
#222
On December 31 2014 09:33 Superbia wrote:
Maybe only RNG if both shots are on town or both on scum. Else only let the shot through on scum if 1 shot on mafia and 1 shot on town. Free green check if both vigis are donkey.

Yeah, it's weird as fuck. But it's fun.

I dislike this even more. Just give us a normal 2 shot vig or 2 normal one shot vigs. Jesus.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:38 GMT
#223
On December 31 2014 09:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
A bright person once said "Keep it simple, stupid."
This is a normal game. Let's not add in more variables like vig RNGs and stuff like that, please.

^
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:39 GMT
#224
Good point.

And what do you think of superbia's scenario? Should I simply make a two shot vig, do my own rng shot return, or superbia suggestion?

Jat your thoughts also appreciated
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:41:10
December 31 2014 00:40 GMT
#225
Is that too powerful for town though? Two immediate kp?

Also could be devastating for town, two immediate donkey?

Or conversely, too weak? Immediate ml, loss of kp

immediate nk, loss of kp

donkey and donkey, worst case and lost for town basically
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:41 GMT
#226
I would rather flame our vigis for playing/shooting badly than you for refunding the wrong shot.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:41 GMT
#227
Because one of those possibilities revolves around playing mafia and one doesn't.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:42 GMT
#228
And if you are worried about it just do what Koshi said and make one 2 shot vig?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:49:10
December 31 2014 00:45 GMT
#229
For 20 you could remove the vigi for town, and give scum a 2 shot vigi and play 15 vs 5.

15 vs 5
14 vs 5 ml
12 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
11 vs 5 ml
9 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
8 vs 5 ml
7 vs 5
6 vs 5 ml
5 vs 5 at the end of N4 without saves.

This means doc needs to save twice to give town a 5th ml.
This means scum got 2 kills for the first 2 nights to disrupt towncircles.
1 docsave means that town can try on D5 to lynch a scum. so they go in a lylo situation. With no saves they don't get that try.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:52 GMT
#230
On December 31 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
For 20 you could remove the vigi for town, and give scum a 2 shot vigi and play 15 vs 5.

15 vs 5
14 vs 5 ml
12 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
11 vs 5 ml
9 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
8 vs 5 ml
7 vs 5
6 vs 5 ml
5 vs 5 at the end of N4 without saves.

This means doc needs to save twice to give town a 5th ml.
This means scum got 2 kills for the first 2 nights to disrupt towncircles.
1 docsave means that town can try on D5 to lynch a scum. so they go in a lylo situation. With no saves they don't get that try.

So, 15 town with doc and cop against 5 scum with rb, framer and 2 shot scum vigi?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2014 00:52 GMT
#231
Also, rb + framer + 2 unaware millers seem a bit high against a doc/cop.

I would remove the rb then? or the 2 millers? I dnu.

Your setup :-)
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 31 2014 00:52 GMT
#232
On December 31 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
For 20 you could remove the vigi for town, and give scum a 2 shot vigi and play 15 vs 5.

15 vs 5
14 vs 5 ml
12 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
11 vs 5 ml
9 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
8 vs 5 ml
7 vs 5
6 vs 5 ml
5 vs 5 at the end of N4 without saves.

This means doc needs to save twice to give town a 5th ml.
This means scum got 2 kills for the first 2 nights to disrupt towncircles.
1 docsave means that town can try on D5 to lynch a scum. so they go in a lylo situation. With no saves they don't get that try.

this seems more likely. I don't want to wait for another guy, and this simplifies things.

It means scum has to really protect that 2 shot vig or play well,

I like encouraging decisions like this.

Kudos koshi you go in the OP

And also, thanks Artanis and jat you will also get mention.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:53 GMT
#233
Shouldn't we at least cut the framer there?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2014 00:53 GMT
#234
On December 31 2014 09:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote:
For 20 you could remove the vigi for town, and give scum a 2 shot vigi and play 15 vs 5.

15 vs 5
14 vs 5 ml
12 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
11 vs 5 ml
9 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi)
8 vs 5 ml
7 vs 5
6 vs 5 ml
5 vs 5 at the end of N4 without saves.

This means doc needs to save twice to give town a 5th ml.
This means scum got 2 kills for the first 2 nights to disrupt towncircles.
1 docsave means that town can try on D5 to lynch a scum. so they go in a lylo situation. With no saves they don't get that try.

So, 15 town with doc and cop against 5 scum with rb, framer and 2 shot scum vigi?

As vanilla as it gets . Maybe remove 1 pr for scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 00:55:50
December 31 2014 00:53 GMT
#235
On December 31 2014 09:52 Koshi wrote:
Also, rb + framer + 2 unaware millers seem a bit high against a doc/cop.

I would remove the rb then? or the 2 millers? I dnu.

Your setup :-)

well yeah, now that scum has a bunch of kp removing the rb makes sense.

Framer is awesome, I agree with you. I like wifom hey

sorry about that jat
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:53 GMT
#236
On December 31 2014 09:52 Koshi wrote:
Also, rb + framer + 2 unaware millers seem a bit high against a doc/cop.

I would remove the rb then? or the 2 millers? I dnu.

Your setup :-)

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
December 31 2014 00:56 GMT
#237
On December 31 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 09:52 Koshi wrote:
Also, rb + framer + 2 unaware millers seem a bit high against a doc/cop.

I would remove the rb then? or the 2 millers? I dnu.

Your setup :-)

well yeah, now that scum has a bunch of kp removing the rb makes sense.

Framer is awesome, I agree with you. I like wifom hey

sorry about that jat

No problem. Cutting rb works too. I just think rb and framer is too much.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2014 00:58 GMT
#238
Sleep time now. Got to work tomorrow Oo. Evil.
I had a good night of sleep.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 31 2014 01:15 GMT
#239
Whatever the setup so long as scum wins with 4 mls is a balanced setup

3 mls is prolly too easy
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 01:45:22
December 31 2014 01:17 GMT
#240
Roles are going out early. There will be a lot of flavor with your roles.

After this post, if you post you are allowed to edit it to one thing or risk modkill/ban. I will make an example edit for the next post.

Then the game will start at 05:00 GMT (+00:00).

Sorry if you had something to say about balance. it is over.

Still accepting replacements, send me a PM please.

Still giving out observer passes, send me a PM please.

Still taking questions, send me a PM please.

Still willing to chat, send me a PM if you want to do that.
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