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Damdred
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
I was actually doing the Scrooge shit I forgot Ah Hi | ||
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Alakaslam
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Vivax
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So he's pretty much scummy for apparently inventing reasons to townread him. | ||
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LightningStrike
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LightningStrike
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On December 10 2014 12:22 LightningStrike wrote: Wait a tic you claiming Scrooge and yet Kush claimed Scrooge too if I recalled from reading the thread earlier. One of you is lieing unless kush stopped the claim which I don't think he didn't. This is at Slam. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote: So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager. this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all Whether you believe KSC or not, Xata did not pull the "reaction test" thing out of his ass. I personally don't approve of this move and might even call it scummy, given a dumb scrooge might have fallen for it, but whatevs. Says nothing about Xata. If you want a read on someone, ask. @Damdred...seems more lazy than scummy to me, the Templar post. Unless you're telling me he isn't usually fluffy (which considering his silly Santa stories, you'd think that would have raised a red flag by now with those of you who have played with him before). He asked a few good questions in the text wall. | ||
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LightningStrike
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Vivax
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Xata is DEFINITELY scum. | ||
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Vivax
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On December 10 2014 12:31 rsoultin wrote: @Viva Whether you believe KSC or not, Xata did not pull the "reaction test" thing out of his ass. I personally don't approve of this move and might even call it scummy, given a dumb scrooge might have fallen for it, but whatevs. Says nothing about Xata. If you want a read on someone, ask. @Damdred...seems more lazy than scummy to me, the Templar post. Unless you're telling me he isn't usually fluffy (which considering his silly Santa stories, you'd think that would have raised a red flag by now with those of you who have played with him before). He asked a few good questions in the text wall. Yea gimme a read on Xata. He did pull it out of his ass cause it wasn't a reaction test. A reaction test is something you purposefully do to fish a reaction. What Kelsier did was an attempt at taking advantage of the setup, then he realized it failed, then he looked at FF and called him scum for not looking more thoroughly at what he did there, meta-based. | ||
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Vivax
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Vivax looks infinitely better since I came back. He can be town. I like the fact that he took much more definitive stances since earlier on, which were part of my issue with him. Don't like how the post restriction is apparently holding him back from playing his regular game, but I know that's the case for more than a few people. Just a couple of other names I'm going to throw down for the moment: Holyflare: Town lean. I'm rescinding my earlier read since a bunch of people are taking issue with me not doing anything, which means it's less "Hf is being scummy" and more "Obi is a lazy dickbutt." I don't like how he's super upset with me, especially since he seemed okay at the end of Russia Today and somehow went into full on policy lynch mode. I know he can do that with his scumteam if they piss him off, so...That's normal...I guess... Kitaman: Adorable. Also, townie. I remember him bringing up a rather good point about FF, which is good because I feel like a lot of the points brought up by other players are kind of meh right now. I misread him once before, and I'd rather give him some space to see how he plays this game out since I know he's capable of being incredibly useful as town. Rsoultin: Town. I really liked a bunch of his earlier posts. The end. I'll give reads on other players as I go. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On December 10 2014 11:49 kitaman27 wrote: ^ Found one Disgruntled Christmas Worker + Show Spoiler + Spoiler alert ![[image loading]](http://www.whatsupmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Dwight-Schrute-meme-11.jpg) | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Also kind of weirded out by the fact that Koshi apparently knows my meta now. His read on me is generally inaccurate/based on me posting big meaty posts, so having him come out and say "OWS is useless and could be scum" when he loves to give me tons of leeway is strange. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On December 10 2014 12:01 rsoultin wrote: Yesterday you read fine, though roundabout. More words =/= better. 27NB read/recap lolworthy. "Let me compare her to me." Though other people were comparing the two of you, unnecessary. Given your initial reason for pursuing 27NB, it's a good sign you reevaluated, however. (That was the main purpose behind my post, seeing where you stood now.) BS on tube. You've written more than him on anyone for him asking other people he think may be town why they think differently than him. Kelsier read is a bunch of repeating yourself about his issue with Alakaslam being townread and a cameo of FF. Not well-developed for such a long post. And as for how I post...it's only odd if you haven't read my other posts. You're not special, vivo. hehehe. I love this guy, just for that. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 10 2014 12:38 Vivax wrote: As in, he didn't do that to get a reaction out of volition, he just spontaneously did so afterwards. But Xata somehow says it was out of volition, so it would fit more into his reasoning for him getting a townread cause typically a reaction test is something townies are more likely to do. I see your point, since KSC claims to have misread rather than fished. Xatalos didn't stand out to me, apart from bringing the discussion back to points that had been beaten to death already. I.e. froggy, hts, 27nb. I wouldn't vote him for being wishy-washy and imprecise, though. He seems to be willing to reassess his reads...though I didn't look at the filter in context, so if the reassessments are actually sheeping, that would be a different story. Null for now. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
This also seems like it would fit under the category of stuff mafia say: "I sure hope that Mafia didn't somehow find the Scrooge because of this though" On December 09 2014 22:55 Xatalos wrote: I really hope you're trolling. Scrooge is a town power role. This one too. Of course he is trolling, does he really need to show concern here? The vote on bunnies seems like it is overexplained so there might be merit here for a scum xatalos. At any rate we really shouldn't have a one sided day one lynch so this might be a good option as any. | ||
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Vivax
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December 09 2014 12:42.: Regarding 27ninjabunnies, there are two reasons that make me think she might be town: 1) She easily gathered a ton of votes and the rest of the votes have been scattered around everywhere. This makes me think that the Mafia team is supporting her lynch or at the very least content with it. If that wasn't the case, I think her wagon would have been a bit weaker or at least there would be a competing wagon. Right now it just looks like 27ninjabunnies is heading to be lynched and the Mafia team is happy / doesn't care about it. 2) If Half the Sky is Mafia, I feel it's quite unlikely that 27ninjabunnies is Mafia as well. Pre-flip association, I know, but I don't think scum Half the Sky would easily pile on a scum 27ninjabunnies wagon or that she would first start casually discussing with 27ninjabunnies and refer to her as town. So I don't really think 27ninjabunnies is a good lynch for these reasons. December 09 2014 14:02: I agree that 27ninjabunnies doesn't look good. She also does have more fluff than you. Fluff in itself isn't so bad though, in my opinion. What I was more concerned about is that your posts seem to maintain some appearance of relevance without really having much (if any), whereas 27ninjabunnies has more fluff that's clearly just useless. Generally I've noticed that Mafia tend to make posts more along the lines of your posting style. December 09 2014 19:54. I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon. December 09 2014 22:02: Maybe I was wrong about HTS. She seems to be actively doing stuff for now so it could be too hasty to lynch her. 27ninjabunnies on the other hand, doesn't look any better than earlier. Mainly for the fact that she defended froggy and then put him on her scumlist anyway when pressured. And townread the people who had stances against her own. Basically just meaningless listing contradicting her other posts. It could be that the scumteam merely doesn't have that much thread presence or is bussing her. ##Unvote ##Vote 27ninjabunnies Like, this doesn't make ANY sense. The reasons for her being scum were there from the start, yet all dismissed just cause so many people found them good and cause of the associative thingy. And when 27nb comes back at December 09 2014 18:07, to explain that iffy for her means null, Xata skips over it in his next posts to progressively get closer to lynching her as his traction on HTS loses strength. It is a BIG deal whether iffy means scummy or means null in someone's opinion. Obviously you can't verify it for sure if it's just an excuse or the truth, but at least it takes some wind out of the former arguments. And at the time when the arguments against bunnies were the strongest, Xata found some very questionable reasons for townreading her. When the time comes where the arguments against bunnies should be put into question given her explanation, he ignores the new information and joins the wagon based on the old information, using it as the main argument. Also notice the use of the word "fluff". "Fluff" in this game has been literally dropping down from the sky from a multitude of players, and I don't see how Xata applies it so selectively to only these two players. I don't want to count the amount of the word "fluff", between being used as bulk of his case against HTS, to being differentiated into useless fluff and fluff with usefuleness (or something like that), to be called "not so bad in itself". The use of the word fluff in here is mostly just an excuse to scumread people or not on a whim and completely arbitrary. You can't measure the amount of fluff, and it has to be seen in context. When HTS posted fluff in her first post, it was scummy. Ninjabunnies had more fluff initially, but it wasn't so bad in itself.Why? Cause more people voted her! Clearly Xata has a blatant double standard here, and the read on NB should progress in the opposite way, if he had rolled town. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
May be normal for him, but the big steaming pile of null he's contributed to the thread so far almost makes me want to switch my vote. Not buying the Joyless Child claim either. SL is a hyperactive goober. Glowingbear should know better than thinking he could both confirm his towniness by sending a present, that said present would be received at a different time than SLs, and that the presents have any bearing whatsoever on a player's alignment. | ||
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Vivax
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1) She easily gathered a ton of votes and the rest of the votes have been scattered around everywhere. This makes me think that the Mafia team is supporting her lynch or at the very least content with it. If that wasn't the case, I think her wagon would have been a bit weaker or at least there would be a competing wagon. Right now it just looks like 27ninjabunnies is heading to be lynched and the Mafia team is happy / doesn't care about it. It could be that the scumteam merely doesn't have that much thread presence or is bussing her. There is NOTHING in the thread to change one version to the other for Xata. The only thing that changed is that he ran out of breath in his push on HTS, and arbitrarily made something no townie has a way of knowing about into the opposite. First: "The scumteam is bandwagoning on bunnies" Last: "The scumteam is bussing bunnies or not doing anything" How is he supposed to know? Well, he isn't supposed to, but he just writes it one way or another when it's convenient and fits into his version of the game. This is no townie reasoning. | ||
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