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On December 15 2014 13:16 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 12:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Rsoultin, what do you think of Xatalos?
Ritoky, why were you reading ff as mafia on day1? Eh, Xatalos. For awhile I thought he'd be a good person to listen to/sheep. What I mean by that is people have town reads, yes, but not all your town reads are going to be players you actually agree with. Xatalos is logical and appeals to my need for things to make sense, and I was townreading him. I'm less certain of him now. Not so much because of the voting at the end of the day, but because I went back through his filter when Vivax was riding him. He's very...noncommittal through most of it? Yes I know this is something to do with tone. But his reads and statements came off very cautious to me, like he's reluctant to make scum reads or something. Cautious about bunnies, reading KSC as town because his move was "too bold" for mafia, lynching bunnies cause no reason not to, noncommittal about HF and Vivax still being alive after night 1 (like he's hinting that they might be scum but not willing to pursue it), focusing on Tubes "scumslip", FF then becomes "too scum to be scum"...but then goes back to scumreading him for something called "Occam's razor"? I'm assuming that means if it smells like a rat it's a rat in layman's terms, but I haven't looked it up. Don't see any point where he's reading someone as strongly scummy, just this side of null. And he does seem to dismiss KSC as a potential lynch entirely, too, but that could just be a town being wrong. I also don't see (though I might have missed it) where his ritoky read changed from town to a possible lynch. Xatalos said he had reads but wouldn't give them Night 2. He may have had his reasons, but I'd like to see them now. I'm not scum-reading him, per se, but there are doubts in my head now. I think I just didn't notice him as much because he's not as vocal/confrontational as a lot of the other players, and I don't know that caution in and of itself is a exclusive to scum, but given how often he's commented that scum wouldn't do anything to draw attention to themselves, and then seeing how cautiously he's been playing...it does bring up doubts.
Heh. Paranoia is natural.
Didn't really get that ritoky point though?
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Occam's razor - use the simplest solution. If someone looks really scummy, he might just simply be scum.
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Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town.
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On December 16 2014 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town.
Mafia KP formula is: 2KP
Each mafia player can only deliver one bullet, so in practice it drops to one when 1 mafia remains.
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On December 16 2014 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town.
You are misinterpreting KP.
Default is 2KP - 2 scum faction kills.
MM/Marley/BM/etc is additional KP.
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On December 16 2014 03:52 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town. You are misinterpreting KP. Default is 2KP - 2 scum faction kills. MM/Marley/BM/etc is additional KP.
Oh my bad on misinterpreting the KP stuff man this is going to be hard as hell T_T
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On December 16 2014 03:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think the Mass Murderer is out of bullets because he will be given only 2 bullets to try to kill people and since there is no refund in bullets if I recalled reading the role description it's only going to be 1 death per night now so we got some time to figure out who is scum but we still under pressure though to get out some scum members to make connections on the remaining scum members thus we win the game as town. Mafia KP formula is: 2KP Each mafia player can only deliver one bullet, so in practice it drops to one when 1 mafia remains. ?
The formula wrecked me hard T_T Also Xatlos and HTS since you guys are here what roles you think Mafia got and why?
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Hm. HTS / LS, what do you think of GB?
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I got GB null leaning scum but I would rather lynch Tubesock right now read my thing on him earlier on why.
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On December 16 2014 04:02 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. HTS / LS, what do you think of GB?
TLDR: GB is on my scum list, so is Oats, not feeling good about Bats and Templar either.
(Explanations to come shortly.)
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None of you has good reasons against me.
Jesus.
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On December 16 2014 04:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I got GB null leaning scum but I would rather lynch Tubesock right now read my thing on him earlier on why.
Yeah I agree that he doesn't seem to pay much attention and the slips are disturbing. What's holding me back is his crazy posting streak before deadline... It'd be hard for a beginner scum to post like that.
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On December 16 2014 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:
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None of you has good reasons against me.
Jesus.
You've tunneled HF for the longest time for much worse reasons.
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To answer your first question, on GB, I didn't like how he pushed the HF case. The case itself had its holes in it and I had acknowledged that some of Part 1 made sense, but I felt like he was kicking and screaming to get it through. I agree with you on the role claiming, when he first asked that, I couldn't work it favourably given the scum KP. The fact that he's doing that again doesn't lend him credibility, at all.
Oats, for reasons largely already explained. I will admit part of my reasoning is somewhat based on meta, but content-wise, I didn't like his voting when there were so many other cases to explore. It seems like priority 1 for him are the lurkers when there are other issues being pushed and that's been consistent all game. It's possible there might be a lurking scum somewhere, but I feel that's all he's gone after for the most part, save for Vivax. Froggy was his target two days in a row at one point.
Bats is another read, but I sense a pattern. Trfel cited some of the things he did D1. He was asked for a case on HF D2, when he voted HF and he didn't appear to have a defence. If you look through page 4 of his filter, it appears he's throwing votes everywhere and looking for something that sticks. Random vote on myself for requesting a meta lookup on Oats.
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On December 16 2014 04:02 LightningStrike wrote:
The formula wrecked me hard T_T Also Xatlos and HTS since you guys are here what roles you think Mafia got and why?
I'd say RB (patronising prick) for sure given the N2 results, likely a Marley (with Kush's death), the BM is known as he's flipped.
MM is 50/50 given D1, we don't know exactly how Damdred died. And surely a 5th, but not sure.
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On December 16 2014 04:19 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah I agree that he doesn't seem to pay much attention and the slips are disturbing. What's holding me back is his crazy posting streak before deadline... It'd be hard for a beginner scum to post like that.
The slip was there, but my general nutshell impression from his posts is that he's trying too hard.
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On December 16 2014 04:19 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 04:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I got GB null leaning scum but I would rather lynch Tubesock right now read my thing on him earlier on why. Yeah I agree that he doesn't seem to pay much attention and the slips are disturbing. What's holding me back is his crazy posting streak before deadline... It'd be hard for a beginner scum to post like that.
If I was scum and was teamed with him I would of helped him make his posts before the deadline to make him not so scummy but that just my thoughts on it.
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I was never sold on tubesack being town but there was one post that made me wonder
On December 14 2014 07:24 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
heading to work really soon, any objections to me staying on HF? I do. Me or Kel. Take your pick.
Who gives an ultimatum between himself and his scum buddy?
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On December 16 2014 04:44 Fecalfeast wrote:I was never sold on tubesack being town but there was one post that made me wonder Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:24 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
heading to work really soon, any objections to me staying on HF? I do. Me or Kel. Take your pick. Who gives an ultimatum between himself and his scum buddy?
Heh yeah that seems pretty weird.
Overall I don't think he's the best lynch. All of GB/Oats/Templar look worse IMO. Oats and Templar more for apathy/uselessness while GB for pushing scum agenda (fishing roles, tunneling HF all the time but advicing not to shoot him etc.).
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Btw I kind of doubt Templar and Tube are scum together.
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