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On December 03 2014 18:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
That's a horrible reason to scumread anyone.
You know how it looks? It looks like you are afraid to commit to a read so you are leaving me open to mislynch me at a later date. You don't even have any evidence at all that I'm scum.
What's so hard about calling me town? It's actually something SL said that makes me itchy. Oats vs. bats. Why? What about the LS vs. meat voting made it oats vs. bats? I remember you being one of the last people to vote for meat, perhaps the last, bringing the vote to 7. Did that not raise a red flag for you then? You've been more or less non-committal about bats, though he's been throwing you under the bus any chance he can. That argument the first day set the stage for an oats vs. bats game. You're coming back hard at me for commenting that you're not a firm town read for me, but have you bothered to defend yourself from him? I don't recall that you have. You're worth taking a second look at. Show nested quote +On December 03 2014 16:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually any decent scum player will tell his newbie scummate to find a very townie player and sheep him. It makes no sense to sheep your teammate because it's not like you need to buddy him or make him feel like you are listening to him. But it's good to buddy and sheep a strong townie to make him think you are with him and town.
So basically your evidence shows that ls is sheeping bats, therefore bats is town.
As for this...very townie? I could see, if you think that your newbie scummate is gonna give himself away, telling him to sheep a town people already don't trust. That's why I'm asking people what they think. I'm deliberately trying to think of reasons that bats might be town cause...as already said...super biased. Finding a very townie player isn't a bad strategy either to ride the coattails of for as long as possible. But what about bats makes him a strong townie player? He was in the race for scum day 1. Still being mentioned day 2 but we went for policy lynches instead. I've been questioning him ever since EoD 2, and now you're telling me LS sheeping him proves he's town because he's a very townie player. That's...weird. What about bats' play this game is so very 'townie' oats? Maybe my newb eyes are just blind.
I dont have to think hes townie, the scumteam/ LightningStrike has to think that.
And regardless, there is absolutely no way scumbats says "sheep me and say you are sheeping me in thread" to his buddy lightning strike.
No way.
Im not saying this makes bats town. Im saying that there is no argument you can make connecting Lightning Strike and Bats because Lightning strike sheeped Bats.
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Hopeless is massively scum.
You guys are giving him a free pass for lurking?
No town lurks this hard when they are almost gonna lose the game.
scum does though, because apparently nobody wants to lynch him for it.
I really cant believe that you guys dont think lurking is a legitimate scumtell. This late in the game, it is.
On December 02 2014 11:25 Hopeless1der wrote:meatpudding dies today. In the meantime I want someone (not sicklucker) to comment on the following:
Series of damdred related quotes from sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +On November 26 2014 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I think what ive seen is scum. I found it super weird how he never asked breske one question but he asked me 15 of the same question. I dont want to push him yet because I think I can soulread him as I have in a current game I cant talk about.
Bresk individuality I dont have much but he hasint been around. I just put him in that longshot scum team from their really weird day 1 interactions together. On November 26 2014 10:13 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2014 10:59 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
/in
I'm not really a newbie so put me down as either in just don't wanna force someone out of a spot they want/need. Well Ill take my town read away I thought he was a new player but I did like him calling out damdred. Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 09:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:On November 25 2014 09:26 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:On November 25 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.
And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads) Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically. Thats bullshit Everypost I made in this entire thread was about those two players. Its like your posting to make yourself look good while adding nothing. i kinda agree with this. On November 27 2014 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
Ya dont vote slam. Hes been pretty inactive in the other game too. Ill be able to read him well after mafia reading him so easy I think. same with damdred. They will also be great town assets if they are. On November 27 2014 04:45 sicklucker wrote:
if we have a cop or tracker check damdred. Dont check me ill be oozing town soon. On November 27 2014 05:40 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I just think you played a very scared cautious mafia game before but that has yet to be confirmed. Once you come out with this im very happy to join in on your horse. On November 27 2014 06:11 sicklucker wrote:
Kinda ya Im skeptical of damdred but his posts were enough for me to join in. rsoultin is not he joined after On November 27 2014 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred im not even pushing you and your so defensive? what gives? On November 28 2014 16:27 sicklucker wrote:
Damdreds been super defensive. I talked alot early about how im going to soul read him and hes put alot of effort into making me look bad. As it is now hes gotta die at some point things can change. I would rather solve the bats mystery first. On November 30 2014 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
Ah shit I missed the vote im so bad. Catching up did we rly vote out one of my top towns Once again, sicklucker was on Damdred's team in his previous game. He was not reading him, but he claims to have developed the innate ability to read damdred (and slam) since he just played with them together as scum. How does that claim not bother anyone? How does that even make sense? I do not like the way that his read on damdred develops. I do not like the way that he tries to take credit for damdred being nked. His story changes constantly and he is being townread for being insane.
Then he tries to push sicklucker by referencing his read on damdred? His points are not even legitimate.
This reads so much like hopeless trying to create a lynch outta nothing.
And for him to be actually doing stuff so he has some content. It sucks.
LYNCH HOPELESS.
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On December 03 2014 23:03 sicklucker wrote:
Bats
Hopeless
Meat
Is mine too. And I feel like this is auto. Mafia feel free to surrender dont think were ever changing are minds
come on man, thats super bm.
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On December 03 2014 23:14 rsoultin wrote:
Bm? I am really behind on the acronyms thrown out lately.
bad manner.
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On December 03 2014 23:29 Half the Sky wrote:Oats, let me ask you a few questions. I won't speak for anyone else, but I personally do not understand your position. First, we're not giving him a free pass. At least I'm not, and it doesn't appear anyone else is either. If we were, then we'd be calling him town. I don't believe anyone at this point has called him town. At least, I'm not. Show nested quote +On December 03 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hopeless is massively scum.
You guys are giving him a free pass for lurking?
No town lurks this hard when they are almost gonna lose the game. My problem with the above is that Hopeless HAS cited a RL (work) for his AFKness. RL is irrelevant to whether someone in this game is town or scum, yeah people can lie, but since EoD D2, he has posted where he will be. I have my doubts. Show nested quote +On December 03 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really cant believe that you guys dont think lurking is a legitimate scumtell. This late in the game, it is.
To me it is however it's not the only one, and it is not the strongest. I fail to see how lurking alone overrides the scummy behaviour in Bats. If you don't think Bats is scummy, you have not given a counterargument for that, and if you have, please quote it. Now Hopeless' quote. Show nested quote +On December 03 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Then he tries to push sicklucker by referencing his read on damdred? His points are not even legitimate.
This reads so much like hopeless trying to create a lynch outta nothing.
And for him to be actually doing stuff so he has some content. It sucks.
LYNCH HOPELESS. To me it doesn't make sense. I understand your point on this. And that's why some of us are putting him on the list, but he's not number one. Bats is number one for all actions cited through the game - not just one post, not just one action. The above is the only action that you can demonstrate, and Bats's problems are an aggregate from all three days. And I don't understand how someone as experienced as you are can ignore this. To me it appears you are sidestepping Bats altogether.
none of you have strung 5 posts together about how bats is scum, and you post this?
Baffles me man.
I dont need to say why bats is town, I gotta say why hopeless is scummier.
Also lurking one lynch before lylo is fucking scummy and IRL reasons are not real reasons. In fact, the fact that you even think about trying justify your absence is scummy.
IRL reasons or any other activity excuse are not valid in this game.
Do not use those as a reason to not lynch people.
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On December 03 2014 23:40 Half the Sky wrote:
TLDR version of my last post:
Oats, make a case that one post from Hopeless carries more weight than the aggregate of Bats' behaviour over three days.
Also, there is no other content from hopeless. You dont see that.
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On December 04 2014 00:55 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2014 00:51 sicklucker wrote:On December 03 2014 23:50 batsnacks wrote:On December 03 2014 23:39 rsoultin wrote:
Why? Pretty much what oats said. Lynching meat is cool too though because knowing his alignment pretty much solves the game. If meat is scum, we hit scum, which is awesome. If meat is town, it means scum voted meat yesterday. Were already pretty sure scum voted meat because the whole logic of voting ls was because you and Ls snap voted him. At the very least we know one and most of my town reads voted ls I'm not sure that scum voted meat so speak for yourself.
Scum did vote for meat.
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If meat is scum it is useless yeah.
if meat is town its still pretty useless, only town really changed.
Basically breshke.
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Well yeah, my scumreads dont include anyone on the LS lynch.
Lol but it doesnt directly tell me "xx is scum cause he tried to hammer meat but failed".
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yeahhhhhhh thats right breshke.
##vote Hopeless
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Why did you change your mind btw?
It looks like you were leading up to lynch bats.
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On December 04 2014 09:20 rsoultin wrote:I can see your point, Breshke. I'll go through the threads and see what is there. The other purpose for that post could be to take suspicion off Oats if bats and Oats are working together, though, so going to leave my vote where it is. Could buy the whole I don't think thing, but I'm still not good with policy lynches over scum reads. So I'll go digging as you suggested bats.  Give me some reads while I do so, will you? Hope is just one player.
come on, stop associating me with him. You have like 0 evidence.
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no, i defended kush cause he said stupid shit.
Hopeless has said scummy shit.
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and hopeless is lurking.
Its like completely different.
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On December 04 2014 11:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2014 10:44 meatpudding wrote:
sl was for pushing hopeless today, he said it several times. Did he give any reason for it? Perhaps it was by the process of elimination by who he thought was town? If I remember correctly it was oats who suggested first to lynch hopeless. Again, should probably just read the night posts. You'll see who SL was pushing and why. My problem with hopeless is he's basically a policy lynch, which at this point in the game I feel is insufficient unless you genuinely think all the rest of us are town.
he is completely not a policy lynch, come on.
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I said why man meat. Have you even read his filter?
It's not like there is a lot of posts, why can't you make up your own mind?
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Sl wasn't killed cause he was right, he was killed because he wasn't a mislynch opportunity
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I did already... Like earlier.
He has done nothing to advance town and looked more like posting to avoid suspicion rather than posting to find scum.
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