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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 22 2014 14:17 GMT
#1321
Oh my god Rayn I can't believe you can't see VE's posts through a mafia perspective.
Like, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV.
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2014 14:19 GMT
#1322
On November 22 2014 23:13 The_Templar wrote:
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The point of the game is not to pressure people.
It's to lynch mafia.

Didn't realize I'd be lynching mafia halfway into the day.

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gosh. I find it impossible to believe you think this is how the game of mafia is played.
Like if noone listens to you you just sit around and cry in the corner because "boohoo my posts are not being read"?!?!?
For the record you stated, IN YOUR FIRST POST, "i am terrible" which translates directly into "don't listen to me".
Literally, it does. So what do you expect? You tell people not to listen to you then you blame them for not listening to you? haha.

What planet do you live on where this is an absolute? I intended people to consider my reads before blindly agreeing/disagreeing with me, I am not going to say "ignore me" in my opening post.

Show nested quote +
If you are town you have to admit there is a possibility someone else is right and you are wrong. Because you cannot be right every time otherwise you are the best mafia player of all times. Which you claimed you aren't. So in case you have to decide who to vote on between two null-reads you have two possibilities:
1) Trust your top town read who you think is a good scumhunter and generally a good player, very experienced
2) Trust the (1)'s lynchtarget and vote with him

Why do I have to agree with either of them? I lynched based on MY OWN OPINION.

Last post then i am off for a while because htis is not going anywhere:
1) we are lynching mafia every single point of the game.
2) saying "i am terrible" does really directly translate into "i don't even trust myself so others should not aswell". it really does. if not in your head in others head it does. and it's a really scummy thing to say because as town you would like others to VALUE your opinion because you are part of the group that's trying to find and kill mafia!
3) maybe you did. well in fact certainly you did as if you are town you are not lying and if you're mafia you sure did aswell. my point is i think you are lying about your motives for your vote because i think as town you would have sheeped Holyflare instead. Just because it would make way more sense -- based on how you view yourself as a player, how you view him as a player, and what your reads were on the targets and HF -- than what you actually did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2014 14:26 GMT
#1323
On November 22 2014 23:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh my god Rayn I can't believe you can't see VE's posts through a mafia perspective.
Like, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV.

You are not going to convince me of VE being mafia here. Just because i have played a shitton with VE recently and while i have not seen his mafia play for a while i know how he plays as town and this is exactly like it.

What are your reads on Damdred, Templar, Hopeless and Slam?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 22 2014 14:32 GMT
#1324
On November 22 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 23:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh my god Rayn I can't believe you can't see VE's posts through a mafia perspective.
Like, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV.

You are not going to convince me of VE being mafia here. Just because i have played a shitton with VE recently and while i have not seen his mafia play for a while i know how he plays as town and this is exactly like it.

What are your reads on Damdred, Templar, Hopeless and Slam?


I read damdred as town, Templar as null, hopeless as leaning scum, slam as null.

I had a town read on both Templar and slam, but you're bringing insightful points on him and I'm not sure about slam after the flip.

But I still have a feeling they are more likely to be town.

Rayn, you're using your feeling over objective reads. What I said about VE IS objectively scum.

I just ask you to reconsider reading VE through another POV. We can discuss this later.
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 22 2014 14:36 GMT
#1325
Rawr shoot temp
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 22 2014 14:41 GMT
#1326
On November 22 2014 23:36 liancourt wrote:
Rawr shoot temp


You're going to die tonight
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 22 2014 14:56 GMT
#1327
Looked through 5-6 of Rayn's previous games. I feel like he acts more certain about his reads as town than as mafia, and uses information from them in his other posts in an attempt to solve the game as quickly as possible, so he could be town here, based on these posts.

On November 21 2014 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 21 2014 06:16 Damdred wrote:
On November 21 2014 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 21 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:
I'd have to look but I said aggressive style which a titanic game we played fits the bill rayn.

You always have a meh read on me on d1 hf

but i shitposted in that game and tried to "protect" marv/HF as long as i could.
i didn't post anything, i just posted a shitton and almost all of the people read me as town and then some fucking dumb vigi (who also read me as town but "didn't like me") shot me.

so no, there is nothing like this game. in Titanic IV i posted absolutely 0 analysis on anything.



Yes I would agree with you overall but you were still reasonably aggressive, which is what SL is townreading you on being aggressive. I think its null from you and not worth town reading you on content is your key I think

but i found mafia.
everyone remember this post and lynch (shoot) damdred when i lynch templar and he flips scum.


My problem with this is that he never pushes Damdred any further despite this post.

On November 22 2014 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk. Maybe hopeless and templar are both scum.
Just shoot into them tonight.

Holyflare can you look at emplar. He:
-wrote a case and voted for his townread instead
-is more interested in what other people think of him rather than scumhunting
-as you said on hopeless, templar does not follow up with his shit
-definitely not trying to figure out who is mafia despite having 10 null reads

On November 22 2014 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
..unless you're both scum.

like now, you are pointing out stuff that's really fucking scummy on Templar.
You cannot have missed it before because when HF asked you instantly pointed that out.
But still you townread him. herpderp.


I haven't seen him do this in games he was scum.

On November 22 2014 23:41 GlowingBear wrote:
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On November 22 2014 23:36 liancourt wrote:
Rawr shoot temp


You're going to die tonight

Why?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 22 2014 15:22 GMT
#1328
The vigi will probably shoot him
I'm adorable.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 22 2014 15:23 GMT
#1329
On November 23 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:
The vigi will probably shoot him

Why won't the vig shoot me?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 22 2014 15:29 GMT
#1330
On November 23 2014 00:23 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:
The vigi will probably shoot him

Why won't the vig shoot me?


I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so.
I'm adorable.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 22 2014 15:37 GMT
#1331
On November 23 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 00:23 The_Templar wrote:
On November 23 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:
The vigi will probably shoot him

Why won't the vig shoot me?


I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so.

Several people read me as scum right now. If the vig is one of them, why wouldn't he shoot me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2014 15:39 GMT
#1332
On November 22 2014 23:32 GlowingBear wrote:
I read damdred as town and hopeless as leaning scum.

why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 22 2014 15:40 GMT
#1333
On November 23 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 00:23 The_Templar wrote:
On November 23 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:
The vigi will probably shoot him

Why won't the vig shoot me?


I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so.

yeah and this makes no sense given i think templar is mafia and you seem to think that aswell, at least to some extent.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2014 15:48 GMT
#1334
yehhhhhhhhh any sensible vigi never ever shoot lian please
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2014 15:48 GMT
#1335
also save me medic ty
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 22 2014 15:50 GMT
#1336
Damdred

On November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:
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On November 22 2014 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i complained about thefact templar has\had no reads, YET HE DID NOTHING TO CHANGE IT!!
If you dunno who is scum you find that out, he didn't even try. That's the fucking point. I am amazed you can't see this and instead throw some crap on me.


Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads.

You're really going to need to do better than that. This is barely even a defense of me at all.
You weak-defend me a lot when it looks like I'm going to be lynched. Almost as if you know I'm going to flip town. While you posted this, which happened to be correct,
On November 22 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:
I really don't feel good about a templars lynch here, I know a few people have him as meh but this really reminds me of how he was acting in mission mafia.

You never actually said why this was accurate at all. You had 4 hours between these two posts and your only clarification was that "I drew attention to things". Well, what does this mean? Can you ever tell anyone how I actually played in mission mafia or is that no longer important?

On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 08:05 The_Templar wrote:
On November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote:
On November 22 2014 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i complained about thefact templar has\had no reads, YET HE DID NOTHING TO CHANGE IT!!
If you dunno who is scum you find that out, he didn't even try. That's the fucking point. I am amazed you can't see this and instead throw some crap on me.


Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads.

Can you be a bit more specific?


on phone so quotes will be limited

Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going.

You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process.

so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying

"Templar posted a lot of words and some of them made sense so he is showing that he has basic literary skills, so I think Rayn's mafia read on him is wrong."
This is not a town read. This is actually a "he is playing the game" read, used to determine whether you are going to policy lynch a lurker or not.

His soft reads of me as town combined with the fact I was likely to be lynched at that point make me read him scum up to this point.

When people start unvoting me, he immediately turns away from me to push sicklucker who he hadn't said anything specific on yet.
On November 22 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote:
For more indepth stuff give me about an hour and a half or two hours currently finishing up my shift at work.

Sicklurker IS a good lynch today and I would like to lynch him. He's been flinging stuff and town reading people based on little to nothing and makes excuses. I would vote him very quickly if I had paint right now (is there a paint ap?). Look at the post he just talked about me in, the same things he's saying about me could be said for half the game probably.

Who cares if I haven't cluttered up the thread with tons of towneeads I tried that once it backfired pretty hard, I question currently and some things aboutrayn hf and ve bother me but I don't think that they could be mafia together so I'm reading other games when I have a break and I do have townreads like I would marry GB right now

Here's what I read.
"I'm busy excuse excuse.

A IS a good lynch. By the way, I also want to lynch him. Suspicious things he's done mainly involve B (which I would like to clarify more but can't), as his reads apply to multiple people.

I haven't read many people as town because excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse completely unrelated read excuse excuse C is town."

Basically, he says SL is scummy because he's pushing a vague read onto him. At this point, it seems like OMGUS to me because it doesn't really mean much to say that someone is doing this.

He proceeds to make a fairly good case on SL, but he hasn't done anything since then despite being around. Basically, the only person he has bothered to invest time in reading is SL.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 22 2014 15:51 GMT
#1337
On November 23 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 00:23 The_Templar wrote:
On November 23 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:
The vigi will probably shoot him

Why won't the vig shoot me?


I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so.

So certain are you?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 22 2014 15:51 GMT
#1338
On November 23 2014 00:48 Holyflare wrote:
yehhhhhhhhh any sensible vigi never ever shoot lian please

agreed with this.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 22 2014 15:58 GMT
#1339
On November 22 2014 18:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And holyflare...

He one of the strongest -- if not the strongest -- player in this game. Despite being around nearly all time (especially on EOD) he didn't do shit to actully push any lynch. He's used most of his time arguing agaist me and ve, both of which he thinks are town.

That's mafiaplay.


If you don't think i was pushing hopeless then you need some help. There is nothing BUT a hopeless lynch tomorrow that I will push. Slam is actually very likely mafia for sheeping vets all game and not caring but then when I say I'm sure, like VERY VERY SURE that hopeless is mafia slam decided it wasn't good to sheep me despite calling me town all game.

GB is scummy for not sheeping me even though he agreed with my hopeless read and then sleeping with his vote on our VET despite me telling him multiple times that his vote was bad and I even explained why a hopeless lynch would be better.

I am also absolutely never lynching lian this game.

Sheeping vets?!?!?

Call me scummy for leading this lynch with hopeless, not for sheeping vets.

It's like you are not even actually reading me and forming opinions on me from a different game (because I usually DO sheep vets, just not when they all do nothing but fight each other!) because when I DONT sheep, but rather LEAD a lynch, this is what happens!

Did nobody notice I was leading this Lynch?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2014 16:00 GMT
#1340
On November 23 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 18:23 Holyflare wrote:
On November 22 2014 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And holyflare...

He one of the strongest -- if not the strongest -- player in this game. Despite being around nearly all time (especially on EOD) he didn't do shit to actully push any lynch. He's used most of his time arguing agaist me and ve, both of which he thinks are town.

That's mafiaplay.


If you don't think i was pushing hopeless then you need some help. There is nothing BUT a hopeless lynch tomorrow that I will push. Slam is actually very likely mafia for sheeping vets all game and not caring but then when I say I'm sure, like VERY VERY SURE that hopeless is mafia slam decided it wasn't good to sheep me despite calling me town all game.

GB is scummy for not sheeping me even though he agreed with my hopeless read and then sleeping with his vote on our VET despite me telling him multiple times that his vote was bad and I even explained why a hopeless lynch would be better.

I am also absolutely never lynching lian this game.

Sheeping vets?!?!?

Call me scummy for leading this lynch with hopeless, not for sheeping vets.

It's like you are not even actually reading me and forming opinions on me from a different game (because I usually DO sheep vets, just not when they all do nothing but fight each other!) because when I DONT sheep, but rather LEAD a lynch, this is what happens!

Did nobody notice I was leading this Lynch?


I never called you scummy for sheeping vets. I called you scummy for blindly sheeping them which is fine just because you town read them abd I don't care about that but the minute I pushed something on hopeless you decided to stop following the plan you usually follow and ignore my super sure read to lynch someone who was a complete lurker and hadn't even made a mark in the game yet.
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