EPTLike, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV.
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GlowingBear
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Like, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 22 2014 23:13 The_Templar wrote: Didn't realize I'd be lynching mafia halfway into the day. What planet do you live on where this is an absolute? I intended people to consider my reads before blindly agreeing/disagreeing with me, I am not going to say "ignore me" in my opening post. Why do I have to agree with either of them? I lynched based on MY OWN OPINION. Last post then i am off for a while because htis is not going anywhere: 1) we are lynching mafia every single point of the game. 2) saying "i am terrible" does really directly translate into "i don't even trust myself so others should not aswell". it really does. if not in your head in others head it does. and it's a really scummy thing to say because as town you would like others to VALUE your opinion because you are part of the group that's trying to find and kill mafia! 3) maybe you did. well in fact certainly you did as if you are town you are not lying and if you're mafia you sure did aswell.  my point is i think you are lying about your motives for your vote because i think as town you would have sheeped Holyflare instead. Just because it would make way more sense -- based on how you view yourself as a player, how you view him as a player, and what your reads were on the targets and HF -- than what you actually did. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 22 2014 23:17 GlowingBear wrote: Oh my god Rayn I can't believe you can't see VE's posts through a mafia perspective. Like, seriously. I may be wrong on VE, of course I may be. But you're not considering looking his posts through another POV. You are not going to convince me of VE being mafia here. Just because i have played a shitton with VE recently and while i have not seen his mafia play for a while i know how he plays as town and this is exactly like it. What are your reads on Damdred, Templar, Hopeless and Slam? | ||
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GlowingBear
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On November 22 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are not going to convince me of VE being mafia here. Just because i have played a shitton with VE recently and while i have not seen his mafia play for a while i know how he plays as town and this is exactly like it. What are your reads on Damdred, Templar, Hopeless and Slam? I read damdred as town, Templar as null, hopeless as leaning scum, slam as null. I had a town read on both Templar and slam, but you're bringing insightful points on him and I'm not sure about slam after the flip. But I still have a feeling they are more likely to be town. Rayn, you're using your feeling over objective reads. What I said about VE IS objectively scum. I just ask you to reconsider reading VE through another POV. We can discuss this later. | ||
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liancourt
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GlowingBear
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On November 22 2014 23:36 liancourt wrote: Rawr shoot temp You're going to die tonight | ||
The_Templar
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On November 21 2014 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: but i found mafia. everyone remember this post and lynch (shoot) damdred when i lynch templar and he flips scum. My problem with this is that he never pushes Damdred any further despite this post. On November 22 2014 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk. Maybe hopeless and templar are both scum. Just shoot into them tonight. Holyflare can you look at emplar. He: -wrote a case and voted for his townread instead -is more interested in what other people think of him rather than scumhunting -as you said on hopeless, templar does not follow up with his shit -definitely not trying to figure out who is mafia despite having 10 null reads On November 22 2014 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: ..unless you're both scum. like now, you are pointing out stuff that's really fucking scummy on Templar. You cannot have missed it before because when HF asked you instantly pointed that out. But still you townread him. herpderp. I haven't seen him do this in games he was scum. Why? | ||
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GlowingBear
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The_Templar
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On November 23 2014 00:22 GlowingBear wrote: The vigi will probably shoot him Why won't the vig shoot me? | ||
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GlowingBear
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I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so. | ||
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The_Templar
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On November 23 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote: I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so. Several people read me as scum right now. If the vig is one of them, why wouldn't he shoot me? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 22 2014 23:32 GlowingBear wrote: I read damdred as town and hopeless as leaning scum. why? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 23 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote: I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so. yeah and this makes no sense given i think templar is mafia and you seem to think that aswell, at least to some extent. | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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The_Templar
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On November 22 2014 07:58 Damdred wrote: Templar has done a good bit and even though its in list post form he draws attention to some good things so yes he does have reads. You're really going to need to do better than that. This is barely even a defense of me at all. You weak-defend me a lot when it looks like I'm going to be lynched. Almost as if you know I'm going to flip town. While you posted this, which happened to be correct, On November 22 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote: I really don't feel good about a templars lynch here, I know a few people have him as meh but this really reminds me of how he was acting in mission mafia. You never actually said why this was accurate at all. You had 4 hours between these two posts and your only clarification was that "I drew attention to things". Well, what does this mean? Can you ever tell anyone how I actually played in mission mafia or is that no longer important? On November 22 2014 08:15 Damdred wrote: on phone so quotes will be limited Your list post that you just posted had reads to a degree as in they showed thought behind it and you actually brought a few decent points of contention towards me. While they aren't rock solid I think that it shows where you are and where you are going. You show effort in your defense and while writing long posts isn't totally town it still shows reading and thought process. so yea i think rayn is wrong in what he's saying "Templar posted a lot of words and some of them made sense so he is showing that he has basic literary skills, so I think Rayn's mafia read on him is wrong." This is not a town read. This is actually a "he is playing the game" read, used to determine whether you are going to policy lynch a lurker or not. His soft reads of me as town combined with the fact I was likely to be lynched at that point make me read him scum up to this point. When people start unvoting me, he immediately turns away from me to push sicklucker who he hadn't said anything specific on yet. On November 22 2014 09:38 Damdred wrote: For more indepth stuff give me about an hour and a half or two hours currently finishing up my shift at work. Sicklurker IS a good lynch today and I would like to lynch him. He's been flinging stuff and town reading people based on little to nothing and makes excuses. I would vote him very quickly if I had paint right now (is there a paint ap?). Look at the post he just talked about me in, the same things he's saying about me could be said for half the game probably. Who cares if I haven't cluttered up the thread with tons of towneeads I tried that once it backfired pretty hard, I question currently and some things aboutrayn hf and ve bother me but I don't think that they could be mafia together so I'm reading other games when I have a break and I do have townreads like I would marry GB right now Here's what I read. "I'm busy excuse excuse. A IS a good lynch. By the way, I also want to lynch him. Suspicious things he's done mainly involve B (which I would like to clarify more but can't), as his reads apply to multiple people. I haven't read many people as town because excuse excuse excuse excuse excuse completely unrelated read excuse excuse C is town." Basically, he says SL is scummy because he's pushing a vague read onto him. At this point, it seems like OMGUS to me because it doesn't really mean much to say that someone is doing this. He proceeds to make a fairly good case on SL, but he hasn't done anything since then despite being around. Basically, the only person he has bothered to invest time in reading is SL. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On November 23 2014 00:29 GlowingBear wrote: I bet the vigi won't shoot you. He has no motive to do so. So certain are you? | ||
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The_Templar
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On November 23 2014 00:48 Holyflare wrote: yehhhhhhhhh any sensible vigi never ever shoot lian please agreed with this. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On November 22 2014 18:23 Holyflare wrote: If you don't think i was pushing hopeless then you need some help. There is nothing BUT a hopeless lynch tomorrow that I will push. Slam is actually very likely mafia for sheeping vets all game and not caring but then when I say I'm sure, like VERY VERY SURE that hopeless is mafia slam decided it wasn't good to sheep me despite calling me town all game. GB is scummy for not sheeping me even though he agreed with my hopeless read and then sleeping with his vote on our VET despite me telling him multiple times that his vote was bad and I even explained why a hopeless lynch would be better. I am also absolutely never lynching lian this game. Sheeping vets?!?!? Call me scummy for leading this lynch with hopeless, not for sheeping vets. It's like you are not even actually reading me and forming opinions on me from a different game (because I usually DO sheep vets, just not when they all do nothing but fight each other!) because when I DONT sheep, but rather LEAD a lynch, this is what happens! Did nobody notice I was leading this Lynch? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 23 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote: Sheeping vets?!?!? Call me scummy for leading this lynch with hopeless, not for sheeping vets. It's like you are not even actually reading me and forming opinions on me from a different game (because I usually DO sheep vets, just not when they all do nothing but fight each other!) because when I DONT sheep, but rather LEAD a lynch, this is what happens! Did nobody notice I was leading this Lynch? I never called you scummy for sheeping vets. I called you scummy for blindly sheeping them which is fine just because you town read them abd I don't care about that but the minute I pushed something on hopeless you decided to stop following the plan you usually follow and ignore my super sure read to lynch someone who was a complete lurker and hadn't even made a mark in the game yet. | ||
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