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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:28 GMT
#1301
I am not gonna argue with you about anything because i don't need to convince you you are mafia.
I just showed out other people why you are mafia.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 13:30 GMT
#1302
On November 22 2014 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not gonna argue with you about anything because i don't need to convince you you are mafia.
I just showed out other people why you are mafia.

No rayn, you were going to argue with me. It was very obvious that you were trying to argue with me for no real reason and I didn't want that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:32 GMT
#1303
.......
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:35 GMT
#1304
On November 22 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 22:27 The_Templar wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:25 The_Templar wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like this is literally what happened:

rayn: What did you think would happen in a full 20 minutes?
Templar: I don't know Rayn, it was 4am
rayn: Of course you know. You wrote the thing in question.
Templar: Fine. I thought my case might be obsolete by the time I posted it as I was going pretty slowly.

How can you possibly argue you are not lying in either the first response or in the second one?

Yes, I made up a stupid response because you said something stupid. I told you I didn't know and you weren't satisfied with it, so I pleased your huge ego and confidence in people to remember everything they do.

So yes, you lied.
You lied in a place no townie should lie.
Therefore you are mafia.

Would you rather argue for 4 hours, which would "prove" I'm mafia anyway?

Because I really didn't remember and I was never going to convince you of that. Lying was forced

But you didn't even know if i am town or mafia. In fact you promised to do a reread on my posts yet you have done nothing towards that.

Why would you need to convince me you are telling the truth if i am mafia? Of course i am gonna call you shit if i am mafia and you are town, regardless of what you say. You already treated me as town when you claimed you don't know what to think, if i am town or mafia!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:38 GMT
#1305
Like seriously, can't you people see it?

Templar thinks i might be mafia. Yet he has to lie to me to convince me of something because otherwise it's impossible.
If he is town he definitely does not have to lie. Just because i might be mafia and just throwing shit on him -> then he can convince the OTHER people to LYNCH me!! But no, instead he treats me as town (although he doesn't know if i am town or not?!?!?!?) and makes up shit for whatthefuck ever reason.

wow much townie very smartie
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 13:41 GMT
#1306
On November 22 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like seriously, can't you people see it?

Templar thinks i might be mafia. Yet he has to lie to me to convince me of something because otherwise it's impossible.

Do you really think I was trying to convince you? If I wanted to, I would have argued for four hours instead.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 13:42 GMT
#1307
On November 22 2014 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you need to convince me you are telling the truth if i am mafia? Of course i am gonna call you shit if i am mafia and you are town, regardless of what you say. You already treated me as town when you claimed you don't know what to think, if i am town or mafia!!!

Because I don't KNOW that you are mafia. I didn't even read you as mafia.

Bolded: I actually can not find this at all. I think you turned something I said into something else
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:45 GMT
#1308
On November 21 2014 07:44 The_Templar wrote:
[...]
AFAIK Rayn always plays like this so I am still reading him as null. He is probably the only person I will check through a previous game of, preferably one of his games as mafia so I can see any differences.
[...]

It's the post where you stated 10 null reads (which one of them is a dude you have your vote on...)
You also state you're gonna do some digging on me which you never followed up on.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 13:47 GMT
#1309
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:47 GMT
#1310
On November 22 2014 22:41 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like seriously, can't you people see it?

Templar thinks i might be mafia. Yet he has to lie to me to convince me of something because otherwise it's impossible.

Do you really think I was trying to convince you? If I wanted to, I would have argued for four hours instead.

I don't buy this shit because it doesn't make any sense from town perspective.

Someone shoot this dude. He is just fucking around with nothing real to say.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:49 GMT
#1311
On November 22 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though...

Right. You didn't.
If you don't wanna actually find mafia (as you hadn't found any, except for VE lol) you sure didn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:53 GMT
#1312
Like instead of actually trying to find mafia here's what you did on D1:
- First vote for your null read over your scumread
- Then you did shit on me because you thought it was funny
- Then you voted for VE, yes, but you never did anything to convince anyone to follow you
- Then you voted for another null-read over another null-read (which you considered as lynch candidates) who was pushed by your top town read while stating before that you consider yourself a bad player (which would make more sense in -> if you have to pick between two null-reads you sheep your town read who ACTUALLY is a good player, not to mention his target is pushing the null read you end up lynching).....
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 13:54 GMT
#1313
On November 22 2014 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though...

Right. You didn't.
If you don't wanna actually find mafia (as you hadn't found any, except for VE lol) you sure didn't.

Exactly what was I going to find? Some amazing, never before seen trend in your posting that immediately outed you as a mafia in this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 13:55 GMT
#1314
On November 22 2014 22:54 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though...

Right. You didn't.
If you don't wanna actually find mafia (as you hadn't found any, except for VE lol) you sure didn't.

Exactly what was I going to find? Some amazing, never before seen trend in your posting that immediately outed you as a mafia in this game?

So you don't believe you are gonna find anything yet before you claimed you're gonna look at my past games because it helps you figure out my alignment?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 13:57 GMT
#1315
- First vote for your null read over your scumread

Which I made very clear was a pressure vote.

+ Show Spoiler +
- Then you did shit on me because you thought it was funny

Not seeing this, sorry.

- Then you voted for VE, yes, but you never did anything to convince anyone to follow you

I made a pretty thorough case on him and maintained my opinion. How does everyone ignoring me make me mafia?

- Then you voted for another null-read over another null-read (which you considered as lynch candidates) who was pushed by your top town read while stating before that you consider yourself a bad player (which would make more sense in -> if you have to pick between two null-reads you sheep your town read who ACTUALLY is a good player, not to mention his target is pushing the null read you end up lynching).....

I didn't sheep my town read because I didn't agree with him. I don't see why that's a huge issue.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 13:58 GMT
#1316
On November 22 2014 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 22:54 The_Templar wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though...

Right. You didn't.
If you don't wanna actually find mafia (as you hadn't found any, except for VE lol) you sure didn't.

Exactly what was I going to find? Some amazing, never before seen trend in your posting that immediately outed you as a mafia in this game?

So you don't believe you are gonna find anything yet before you claimed you're gonna look at my past games because it helps you figure out my alignment?

It helps, but it doesn't prove anything.
Why are you turning everything I say into an absolute, Rayn?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 14:01 GMT
#1317
On November 22 2014 22:58 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:54 The_Templar wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
Yes, I'm going to look at a game where you were mafia. I didn't need to right away though...

Right. You didn't.
If you don't wanna actually find mafia (as you hadn't found any, except for VE lol) you sure didn't.

Exactly what was I going to find? Some amazing, never before seen trend in your posting that immediately outed you as a mafia in this game?

So you don't believe you are gonna find anything yet before you claimed you're gonna look at my past games because it helps you figure out my alignment?

It helps, but it doesn't prove anything.
Why are you turning everything I say into an absolute, Rayn?

Seriously, I said I wasn't going to find anything that would tip the vote all the way to you. I did not say I was not going to find anything; obviously if I wasn't I would not bother to look.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 14:06 GMT
#1318
On November 22 2014 22:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
- First vote for your null read over your scumread

Which I made very clear was a pressure vote.

The point of the game is not to pressure people.
It's to lynch mafia.
You had a scumread you didn't vote.
FUCKING SIMPLE!!

+ Show Spoiler +
- Then you did shit on me because you thought it was funny

Not seeing this, sorry.

We JUST talked about this.
You lied without any other reason than to troll me or what the fuck ever.
YOU SAID SO!!! rofl

Show nested quote +
- Then you voted for VE, yes, but you never did anything to convince anyone to follow you

I made a pretty thorough case on him and maintained my opinion. How does everyone ignoring me make me mafia?

gosh. I find it impossible to believe you think this is how the game of mafia is played.
Like if noone listens to you you just sit around and cry in the corner because "boohoo my posts are not being read"?!?!?
For the record you stated, IN YOUR FIRST POST, "i am terrible" which translates directly into "don't listen to me".
Literally, it does. So what do you expect? You tell people not to listen to you then you blame them for not listening to you? haha.

Show nested quote +
- Then you voted for another null-read over another null-read (which you considered as lynch candidates) who was pushed by your top town read while stating before that you consider yourself a bad player (which would make more sense in -> if you have to pick between two null-reads you sheep your town read who ACTUALLY is a good player, not to mention his target is pushing the null read you end up lynching).....

I didn't sheep my town read because I didn't agree with him. I don't see why that's a huge issue.
[/quote]
If you are town you have to admit there is a possibility someone else is right and you are wrong. Because you cannot be right every time otherwise you are the best mafia player of all times. Which you claimed you aren't. So in case you have to decide who to vote on between two null-reads you have two possibilities:
1) Trust your top town read who you think is a good scumhunter and generally a good player, very experienced
2) Trust the (1)'s lynchtarget and vote with him

Regardless of what the cases were (not to even mention there was no case on Killer other than "lurk") i would assume you, as town, ESPECIALLY when you consider yourself as a bad player, to pick (1), just because IT MAKES SENSE and (2) DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2014 14:13 GMT
#1319
Templar:

If you are town go find mafia and tell who is mafia. I don't want to hear about VE because nothing you have said does not make him mafia. Find something else. And don't say things like "inconsistent" or "lying" unless you explain why doing those things make someone mafia.

You are not going to convince me that you are not mafia by arguing about this. If you are town you can convince me you are not mafia by SCUMHUNTING.You have not been scumhunting. Interact with people, convince people someone is scum. I can be talked to like a normal human being, if you talk about something that's actually relevant to the game!!! It is a fact you haven't scumhunted, it's proven by the fact you had 10 null reads at some point and didn't do anything to find out their alignments on D1.

So start playing the game ok? I'll let go of you and i will not stop you doing what you do, if you just DO something!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 22 2014 14:13 GMT
#1320
The point of the game is not to pressure people.
It's to lynch mafia.

Didn't realize I'd be lynching mafia halfway into the day.

gosh. I find it impossible to believe you think this is how the game of mafia is played.
Like if noone listens to you you just sit around and cry in the corner because "boohoo my posts are not being read"?!?!?
For the record you stated, IN YOUR FIRST POST, "i am terrible" which translates directly into "don't listen to me".
Literally, it does. So what do you expect? You tell people not to listen to you then you blame them for not listening to you? haha.

What planet do you live on where this is an absolute? I intended people to consider my reads before blindly agreeing/disagreeing with me, I am not going to say "ignore me" in my opening post.

If you are town you have to admit there is a possibility someone else is right and you are wrong. Because you cannot be right every time otherwise you are the best mafia player of all times. Which you claimed you aren't. So in case you have to decide who to vote on between two null-reads you have two possibilities:
1) Trust your top town read who you think is a good scumhunter and generally a good player, very experienced
2) Trust the (1)'s lynchtarget and vote with him

Why do I have to agree with either of them? I lynched based on MY OWN OPINION.
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