just because 1 player does it as town doesn't mean it's a universal thing, hopeless doesn't do that usually

i thought ve was scummy for doing that but if you are saying ve is doing the same and you are scum reading ve and want him dead tomorrow then by extension it IS alignment indicative because scum in your eyes are doing it

hopeless didn't "flip" his read, he completely ditched the read entirely and shut down when questioned on it

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 22 2014 17:42 GMT

#1362

In slams defense its really hard to sheep any vets right now... your like in a four man free for all

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 17:45 GMT

#1363

Why didn't you vote with me gb? I brought up the same points on templar on d1...,

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 17:45 GMT

#1364

I mean the same points you agree on now.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 17:46 GMT

#1365

On November 23 2014 02:42 sicklucker wrote:
In slams defense its really hard to sheep any vets right now... your like in a four man free for all

If that's what you are reading you are not reading well.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 22 2014 17:56 GMT

#1366

Scum tried to push me I almost got voted out. I think theirs at least one or two scum in gb,ff ,damdred,chez
I think theirs another 1 or 2 who voted for are veteran

From my pov most scum are in this group because I know were both town. GB pushed not 1 but 2 towns last night hes like the most obvious scum from everyone I think. I think its very possible the third pony in the vote race was a mafia (hopeless)

I think a likely scum team is

glowingbear,
damdred,
hopeless,
and one of ff, chez templar or slam . probably templar.

Rayn, holy, and ve I think you all need to get on the same page. You dont have my pov of being town so my vote logic might not make too much sense but it is what it is.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

November 22 2014 17:56 GMT

#1367

how can you say it's hard to sheep vets but comment on absolutely nothing that we are talking about??

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

November 22 2014 17:59 GMT

#1368

im sitting here saying slam, gb and hopeless are mafiaish and rayn is saying its templar and now you're agreeing with absolutely everything?!?!?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 17:59 GMT

#1369

Sicklucker explain to me why it's hard to sheep me, hf or ve now?
Why are we ffa?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 18:00 GMT

#1370

On November 23 2014 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
im sitting here saying slam, gb and hopeless are mafiaish and rayn is saying its templar and now you're agreeing with absolutely everything?!?!?

Tbh i think it' likely one of them is town. I dunno which one though.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 22 2014 18:01 GMT

#1371

Im finding it easier after this vote rayn. But last night it was alot harder in the group I consider vets. you, holy, hopeless, ve Everyone of you had a strong mafia read on another. You cant all be right

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 22 2014 18:07 GMT

#1372

On November 23 2014 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
im sitting here saying slam, gb and hopeless are mafiaish and rayn is saying its templar and now you're agreeing with absolutely everything?!?!?

I came to my own conclusion from vote logic. Im bringing you my pov as a town who got voted on. In this game I find I get my strongest reads from vote logic which is why I have nothing to go on in day one. Alot of people dont like vote logic but im a math guy

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 18:08 GMT

#1373

On November 23 2014 03:01 sicklucker wrote:
Im finding it easier after this vote rayn. But last night it was alot harder in the group I consider vets. you, holy, hopeless, ve Everyone of you had a strong mafia read on another. You cant all be right

Okay this is a townie answer.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 18:09 GMT

#1374

Although noone had a scumread on me so why didn't you sheep me?

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 22 2014 18:17 GMT

#1375

I liked your game when you entered , but your second half game seemed really short sighted to me. You afk voted on templar which I get vote time is bad in europed but I felt you tunneled really hard and didnt focus much on the whole game. Also my vote was on templar untill it was pretty clear he was not getting voted out.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

November 22 2014 18:23 GMT

#1376

... Well that's not townie at all.
Really bad reasoning.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 22 2014 18:33 GMT

#1377

You have to take some of the blame here rayn you came off really pushy. I think all the inexperienced players are really confused and intimidated by the day 1 play. Unlike in the newbie game where I instantly sheeped you theirs other strong overconfident town egos here. In the other game you were a clear cut leader, in this game their were multiple.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 22 2014 18:38 GMT

#1378

Your calling people scummy for not sheeping you but only liancourt sheeped you of 13 other players. You spent alot of time arguing about people not sheeping you .

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

November 22 2014 18:44 GMT

#1379

Rayn I didn't vote Templar because I feel he is townish. I can't exactly understand why. It looks that he is trying to contribute.

Sick lucker is completely strange. He said he will sheep Rayn earlier, but then he admits all veterans are looking scummy, now he says I was voting for 2 towns (him and VE).

1) he is completely sure that VE is town, which is weird
2) but he said veterans are scummy. Wat?????

Now just because HF is making unflipped association and saying I am mafia, sick lucker agrees with him.

Lol.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

November 22 2014 18:52 GMT

#1380

hes not even sheeping me gb i have no idea what you're saying he made a vote count analysis and concluded you were likely mafia because all you are pushing is town people

you also ignored my rebuttal to the hopeless thing